[Nashhlkq]

We came home to 2 messed up bulldogs and a beat up shepherd mix. We had Beep(GSD) and Rosealeah(Doberman puppy) shut in the kitchen.Mercedes (bulldog) was locked in the bathroom and Bella(APBT) was alone in the livingroom.Mischa(GSD mix) was gated in the diningroom.Mercedes got loose from the bathroom some how got the door unlatched,and her and Bella got into a BAD fight.Both dogs are tore up pretty bad.Mischa must have jumped the gate and got in the mix some point as well. Both bulldogs are at vets right now,mischa just got scraped up a bit(thank god for her long coat). They aren't too sure about Bella making it.My question is...Because Mercedes is obviously not containable has substantial allergies and SA pretty bad,and WILL obviously fight if she gets out.What should I do??? Should I rehome her,send her to rescue or should I just have her euthinised??? Keeping her is NOT an option,as I have too many dogs and not enough space to keep her segrigated.

[Unakjyfk]

Because Mercedes is obviously not containable has substantial allergies and SA pretty bad,and WILL obviously fight if she gets out.What should I do??? Should I rehome her,send her to rescue or should I just have her euthinised??? Keeping her is NOT an option,as I have too many dogs and not enough space to keep her segrigated.

Do you know any retired folks that could take her and would be able to be around for her?

If you re-home her, you can screen the prospects and make sure they are fully aware of what she needs and how she is. Can't count on rescues to do that, some will some won't.

She scraps with other dogs, that sucks but that's what they do. I haven't seen anything in any of your prior posts that indicate she needs to be put down. But if you can't find her a safe home you may have no choice.

What does your gut tell you? Can this dog be a good companion in the right home or is she just to much trouble? Can you find her a new home? Check with the mods here, maybe some networking can be done to help find her a new place.

Let us know how the two at the vets are. It's never fun to be where you are with this but when it happens think it through and do what will work. It may not be what is "best" but it does need to work.

[mikelangr]

I would Put the dogs to sleep so many good dogs available with great temperaments that are PTS because of no homes. Why hand your issues over to someone else they may have more issues with her then you have another Bulldog in the paper you can not save every dog do the right thing and give the dogs a good dinner some love and let her go

[Nashhlkq]

Do you know any retired folks that could take her and would be able to be around for her?

If you re-home her, you can screen the prospects and make sure they are fully aware of what she needs and how she is. Can't count on rescues to do that, some will some won't.

She scraps with other dogs, that sucks but that's what they do. I haven't seen anything in any of your prior posts that indicate she needs to be put down. But if you can't find her a safe home you may have no choice.

What does your gut tell you? Can this dog be a good companion in the right home or is she just to much trouble? Can you find her a new home? Check with the mods here, maybe some networking can be done to help find her a new place.

Let us know how the two at the vets are. It's never fun to be where you are with this but when it happens think it through and do what will work. It may not be what is "best" but it does need to work.

Sasha. I know thats what Bulldogs do.I KNOW that they can get into a fight and that DA is normal.We seporated them for that reason. Right now, it is a containment issue,more than a bulldog issue.The ''bulldog'' part of the fight was not why I am considering a rehome.I know that is a possibility due to her breed.The lack of a good containment system is.She still cannot be able to keep going after other dogs,even if that is normal for the breed.I cannot crate and rotate to keep her in this home as she has eaten through a metal crate and broken out of a room. (She shows no issues with the crate/room when we are home with her).Or I would have NO issue doing so.I do not have a way to set up a secure chain spot or I would.I simply do not have a large enough yard and the locals are assholes. I love her very much and I want what is best for her.I am not sure a home with so many dogs is the best situation for her,since containment is an issue.I just do not have a way to effectively keep her contained when she is unsupervised,so she stops doing damage to herself or others.

[mikelangr]

I am not sure nor do I care why you have so many dogs in the house without a solid plan to separate them. But do the right thing and just have the dog PTS

[Unakjyfk]

Sasha. I know thats what Bulldogs do.I KNOW that they can get into a fight and that DA is normal.We seporated them for that reason. Right now, it is a containment issue,more than a bulldog issue.The ''bulldog'' part of the fight was not why I am considering a rehome.I know that is a possibility due to her breed.The lack of a good containment system is.

Which is why I asked if you know of any people that are retired with a farm or something. Even the containment issue isn't all that surprising, a lot of people on here have escape artists. So you need to decide, can you find a home where she would be safe? Would you trust a rescue to do so? Some are good some aren't.

She still cannot be able to keep going after other dogs,even if that is normal for the breed.I cannot crate and rotate to keep her in this home as she has eaten through a metal crate and broken out of a room. (She shows no issues with the crate/room when we are home with her).Or I would have NO issue doing so.I do not have a way to set up a secure chain spot or I would.I simply do not have a large enough yard and the locals are assholes. I love her very much and I want what is best for her.I am not sure a home with so many dogs is the best situation for her,since containment is an issue.I just do not have a way to effectively keep her contained when she is unsupervised,so she stops doing damage to herself or others.

Again, this is why I asked if you can find someone in the country that would be able to handle her, give her the room where she can have a chain spot for some fresh air (or a good concrete floored kennel) and who will be around most if not all of the day.

Nothing you have said indicates she is HA or dangerous to people, your environment may not suit her as she does have some issues.

The question is do you feel she could be a good dog for someone in the appropriate circumstances (only dog, plenty of attention, not left alone) or is she beyond help?

I can't answer that.

[Nashhlkq]

First off these dogs were all separate(per the advice of PBC),each dog had their own room and were gated off with a tall sturdy solid gate,except for Merecedes who was secured in a bathroom with a solid wood door,latched and on a chain lock. and yes,I knew the possibility of a fight,I am not stupid.These ARE bulldogs,after all.Merecedes broke solid wooden door and dislodged a chain lock to the room to get out.She would have been crated,but she ate through the side of a METAL crate.I had posted previously about a secure method since my yard is not large enough for a chain spot and we have assholes teasing my dogs and pelting them with rocks.I followed the advice given.I am not irresponsible,nor am I going to take flack for something that I had done no wrong with. Yes, she got out,yes she got in a fight, and yes, I sought medical care for them.Am I the right home? I'm not so sure.So what,admitting my dog is over my head and looking to find the best situation is irresponsible??? I am more responsible than most.I care well for my dogs thank you.They are all liscenced,vaccinated, trained,and well loved.I am sorry you feel I am an ignorant,irresponsible dog owner to imply my dogs were better off euthinised then with me.I'm sure you never made a mistake, right?? At least I cared enough to raise them right(merecedes came in as an adult btw),spay them,vaccinated them,liscence them,feed them the best dog foods,vet them and love them.

So if you can't offer something useful and are here to bust my ass,please go post elsewhere on the forum.I don't need your crap...........

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I am not sure nor do I care why you have so many dogs in the house without a solid plan to separate them. But do the right thing and just have the dog PTS

I did have them seporated.1 dog to a room.Bulldog was locked in the bathroom-alone.

[Falik]

Gah, I am sorry that you're having to deal with this. I think you are on the right path all on your own. I don't think she needs to be PTS. The only reason I can see that someone, like some of the other posters, might PTS is that it is a lot of work to rehome. I don't think that's a good enough reason to PTS, but hey, that's just my opinion....

You seem like you're on top of it, and will do the best for everyone involved. I hope it gets easier, and you find a good home/family for her Hope Bella is ok too..Hugs...

[Alexunda]

she chewed through a wire crate wow u should of saw that as a sign was that to get to another dog or was that just anxity? id say put her down the other poster is right theres dogs out there with better temperments who needs honmes more than she does. sorry about your incident i hope all dogs are alright. and good luck with whatever decision you choose as long as its the right one for you and the dog.

[Tribas4u]

I would say try to place her in another home yourself. Be very careful with who,(which I am sure you would). If you can't find her anywhere soon I would agree with Hogar and Put her to Rest. There are way to many dogs that have no issues, needing homes than one with even the slightest issue.

[Clilmence]

I don't know where you live or your circumstances but the dog sounds perfectly normal and in need of a good chainspot and a firm handler. Really sorry all this happened.

[Unakjyfk]

I don't know where you live or your circumstances but the dog sounds perfectly normal and in need of a good chainspot and a firm handler. Really sorry all this happened.

Kind of how I figured it to. It's amazing what being on a chain spot outside with a good dog house and access to water can do for a dog that freaks out when left alone inside. Even if it wasn't out in the sticks it sounds like the dog is fine as long as it isn't left alone so a retired family with dog sense could do it too.

[BPitt]

hmm what about a wall chain, I think Zoe uses them for Tank? where you attach a really strong short chain to the wall, with a hook to a stud and then to the collar so its like a chain spot inside, I donno how well it might work but it would be better than another fight between the dogs you have left even if you rehome the one that started it. I hope bella pulls through, prayers are with her. Maybe depending on Mercedes injuries, have her pts, I do not know if I would trust a none bulldog knowledgeable person with one her.

[Donadoni1809]

Sorry about the fight. I hope Bella makes it.

I can see both sides of euthanizing or rehoming. In a suitable home, the dog would probably be fine, but homes are hard to find and easier dogs are dying.

I think you should do what is best for you. Obviously you would have to keep the dog until a suitable home could be found. If you don't feel you can do that, then euthanizing the dog would be the best thing.

I know it it hard. I kept a foster dog for 2 months until he went a new home after busting out of crate and killing one of my other dogs. It was hard. I wanted to euthanize him, but he was very human friendly and I couldn't do it. Thankfully he found a great home.

[toreesi]

We came home to 2 messed up bulldogs and a beat up shepherd mix. We had Beep(GSD) and Rosealeah(Doberman puppy) shut in the kitchen.Mercedes (bulldog) was locked in the bathroom and Bella(APBT) was alone in the livingroom.Mischa(GSD mix) was gated in the diningroom.Mercedes got loose from the bathroom some how got the door unlatched,and her and Bella got into a BAD fight.Both dogs are tore up pretty bad.Mischa must have jumped the gate and got in the mix some point as well. Both bulldogs are at vets right now,mischa just got scraped up a bit(thank god for her long coat). They aren't too sure about Bella making it.My question is...Because Mercedes is obviously not containable has substantial allergies and SA pretty bad,and WILL obviously fight if she gets out.What should I do??? Should I rehome her,send her to rescue or should I just have her euthinised??? Keeping her is NOT an option,as I have too many dogs and not enough space to keep her segrigated.

You might find someone that wants her that can put her on a chain.How's she bred?

[lLianneForbess]

We came home to 2 messed up bulldogs and a beat up shepherd mix. We had Beep(GSD) and Rosealeah(Doberman puppy) shut in the kitchen.Mercedes (bulldog) was locked in the bathroom and Bella(APBT) was alone in the livingroom.Mischa(GSD mix) was gated in the diningroom.Mercedes got loose from the bathroom some how got the door unlatched,and her and Bella got into a BAD fight.Both dogs are tore up pretty bad.Mischa must have jumped the gate and got in the mix some point as well. Both bulldogs are at vets right now,mischa just got scraped up a bit(thank god for her long coat). They aren't too sure about Bella making it.My question is...Because Mercedes is obviously not containable has substantial allergies and SA pretty bad,and WILL obviously fight if she gets out.What should I do??? Should I rehome her,send her to rescue or should I just have her euthinised??? Keeping her is NOT an option,as I have too many dogs and not enough space to keep her segrigated.

You should of had all those dogs in crates! An if you keep them you need to crate and rotate while in the house.
It is your mistake you deal with it!

[boiffrona]

Steph- I like you, I really do and I'm not trying to be mean here. But here is the pattern I keep seeing...

Get a dog, it gets into something/has issues, you rehome or euth and get new dog.

There was Benny the collie. Then there was Loki(granted that was a nasty bad situation) and now Mercedes.

You got Benny, then rehomed him,got Nyx, Got Bella, got Loki I believe and then he bit you, you euthed him(what I would have done). Then you got Mischa and Misfit(who dissappeared), then the MastiffX, Tucker. Nyx had BAD CHD so you euthed her, then you got Mercedes and now Roseleah.

Here is a list that you posted on April 10th.
Bella(APBT) is 52lbs @1 yr
Beep(GSD) is 89lbs @3yrs
Nyx(GSD) is 69lbs @1 yr (Euthed due to health) Misfit (APBT/lab/dane) is aprox 65lbs @ 6 months (est)
Tucker(Mastiff/Dane) is 125lbs @ 16 months old
Mischa (GSD) is aprox 60lbs @ 7 months (est) That is a ton of dogs in a relatively short period of time. In that time you have gotten 2 more.

You knew she had issues......as was stated in this thread.
http://www.pitbull-chat.com/showthread.php?t=67847

IDK. Just rehome her and work with the dogs that are left! Enroll them in OB classes and get their problems worked out if they have any.

Courtney

[KRbGA0Bg]

im sorry prophecy, but laced is right.

you have a large number of dogs and they are all cooped up in a home with "seperate rooms" yes you had them apart BUT they were not contained properly. if they were contained the correct way you wouldnt be in the position you are in today. they should either be crated or at least have the bulldogs chained outside or even inside.

everybody has an excuse but the blame allways comes down to the owner, so what if your neigbours do this or that you made the choice to have that breed and those numbers of dogs in an area which obviously doesnt suit them.

now what will happen is one of your dogs may die from injuries and another may be pts because of choices you have made.
you should be thankfull the dogs didnt do more damage to the house.ive seen pictures of doors that have had holes eaten out of them from curious bored bulldogs.
they are escape artists, chains are not just to stop them from getting to each other you know.

these are rookie mistakes and rookie mistakes should never ever happen. they are rookie mistakes because you should have learned what was proper containment when you were a rookie, before you even owned the dogs.

a child like gate in a doorway is hardly seperating your dogs, its putting a barrier in between dogs they can and will breach given five spare seconds of you looking elswhere.



i would euth the bulldogs if i was you and do some more research before you even think about owning another one.
at the end of the day you have two dead dogs on your hands , one due to injuries the other due to the fact you cannot contain it.


Please dont take this as im tearing strips off you for this as i do understand your obviously gutted it ever happened and probly pretty suprised it could happen, but you know need to take measures to ensure it NEVER happens ever again.
get some chain spots organised even if you have to make short ones inside, cant make them inside? move, or get rid of the dogs. in more than ten years i have never had a single yard accident with my bulldogs and ive had up to six dogs on the yard at once, the secret was to be dilligent and checkl every single connection from axle to collar on every single animal in the yard, it takes two minutes out of each day,.
checking all crate hinges and locks, and even a spare chain spot doesnt hurt , even if it can be swiftly set up while maintanence happens.


as i said sorry for being harsh on you but you now have no excuses if this happens again, get them dogs contained fast.

[Queuerriptota]

Why all the name calling seriously??
Prophecy has over 1,000 post here so it's obvious she isn't just some moron off the street with some dogs....
How she contained them must of worked in the past so there was no reason to think it would be a problem. An accident happened. Now this MEMBER is looking for advice on where to go from here.
Can we not give some helpful advise without loading up the pitchforks and calling for the lynch mobs?
Here's MY advise:
You know the personality and temperament of said dog. You know its quirks, etc and YOU know whether or not she should/can be trusted with someone else. If you have even one ounce of a second of doubt about how she'd act with someone else put her down. Trust your gut and do what's right.

[lLianneForbess]

LWG. That's rather ignorant.First off these dogs were all seporate(per the advice of PBC),each dog had their own room and were gated off with a tall sturdy solid gate,except for Merecedes who was secured in a bathroom with a solid wood door,latched and on a chain lock. and yes,I knew the possibility of a fight,I am not stupid.These ARE bulldogs,after all.Merecedes broke solid wooden door and dislodged a chain lock to the room to get out.She would have been crated,but she ate through the side of a METAL crate.I had posted previously about a secure method since my yard is not large enough for a chain spot and we have assholes teasing my dogs and pelting them with rocks.I followed the advice given.I am not irresponsible,nor am I going to take flack for something that I had done no wrong with. Yes, she got out,yes she got in a fight, and yes, I sought medical care for them.Am I the right home? I'm not so sure.So what,admitting my dog is over my head and looking to find the best situation is irresponsible??? I am more responsible than most.I care well for my dogs thank you.They are all liscenced,vaccinated, trained,and well loved.I am sorry you feel I am an ignorant,irresponsible dog owner to imply my dogs were better off euthinised then with me.I'm sure you never made a mistake, right?? At least I cared enough to raise them right(merecedes came in as an adult btw),spay them,vaccinated them,liscence them,feed them the best dog foods,vet them and love them.

So if you can't offer something useful and are here to bust my ass,please go post elsewhere on the forum.I don't need your crap...........

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I did have them seporated.1 dog to a room.Bulldog was locked in the bathroom-alone.

There are crates out there that, that dog can not chew threw easily or if at all. They are often refferd to as boxes. A dog like that should not be left to their own devices and that is exactly what you did. So Sepperate rooms...not good enough nor should it be an acceptable means of confinement while you are gone.

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Steph- I like you, I really do and I'm not trying to be mean here. But here is the pattern I keep seeing...

Get a dog, it gets into something/has issues, you rehome or euth and get new dog.

There was Benny the collie. Then there was Loki(granted that was a nasty bad situation) and now Mercedes.

You got Benny, then rehomed him,got Nyx, Got Bella, got Loki I believe and then he bit you, you euthed him(what I would have done). Then you got Mischa and Misfit(who dissappeared), then the MastiffX, Tucker. Nyx had BAD CHD so you euthed her, then you got Mercedes and now Roseleah.

Here is a list that you posted on April 10th.


That is a ton of dogs in a relatively short period of time. In that time you have gotten 2 more.

You knew she had issues......as was stated in this thread.
http://www.pitbull-chat.com/showthread.php?t=67847

IDK. Just rehome her and work with the dogs that are left! Enroll them in OB classes and get their problems worked out if they have any.

Courtney

phhhh. she needs to find another hobby!