[DuePew]

anyone ever saw this site?

Unchain Your Dog.org | Chaining a Dog is a Form of Animal Cruelty/Animal Abuse/Animal Neglect

it's just FULL of bullshit HSUS propaganda

I wanted to copy their "facts" page and respond to it in a nice e-mail but they don't have any contact info... I wonder why

[WumibBesowe]

I have said it on multiple forums. Chaining/tethering is not cruel and can sometimes be the only way a dog can be safely outside. Its a tool like any other. It can be abused, but good owner shouldn't have to lose this tool by law because some asshat did things badly.

My dad can't afford to fence his yard and realy has no motivation to sinc ehe has no pets. When my siblings and I drive out to his place we tether our dogs so they are safely contained and don't have to be left home in crates for 6-8 hours.

My neighbor has a dog that climbs the fence. If she didn't buy the tethering is bad crap her dog could be tethered in the yard for play time instead of only being outside a few minutes a day on leash in the backyard to potty.

A friend can't put up a fence or kennel due to the Homeowners Assoc. so she can only tether her dog to keep it in her yard.

Lovely how the H$U$ puts out this crap and encourages laws aginst chaining/tehtering without realizing the consequences for good dogs and their owners.

[DuePew]

yup, tethering is one of the BEST if not the best way to contain our apbt's IMO.

[pharmaclid]

I also love when people claim dogs hate being on the chain. ive had multiple dogs that loved being on their chains, and one current one who bout breaks my screen door down to get to her chain, she doesnt even like being inside. the minute i bring her in, she sits by the door wanting back out.

[Jueqelyl]

I actually went to a friend's house with my dog and put him in a crate. ( My friend has 4 little dogs.) While I was visiting, another friend came over. She insisted that I let my dog out of "jail." When I told her that he had to stay in there because he might hurt the little dogs, she started to cry and left because it too upsetting to her to see him crated.

If we had to get rid of every tool or management device that offended someone, where would it stop? Prongs? E-collars? Leashes? Muzzles? Out-door kennels? Neutering?

[WumibBesowe]

I actually went to a friend's house with my dog and put him in a crate. ( My friend has 4 little dogs.) While I was visiting, another friend came over. She insisted that I let my dog out of "jail." When I told her that he had to stay in there because he might hurt the little dogs, she started to cry and left because it too upsetting to her to see him crated.

Seriously? WOW! Advise her to please never get a dog and certainly not one of the bullies!

[Jueqelyl]

She has 3 pugs that tear each other apart regularly. She just pays the vet bills. When it get really bad, she hires a dog-sitter to watch them.

It's pure craziness.

[WumibBesowe]

So, crating is cruel and mean but its ok to let your dogs injure each other? I want whatever drugs she's on,rofl!

[yatrahnualenu]

I hate people who impose their human emotions or thoughts on the dogs. I probably worded that wrong but I think you know what I mean. For example,there are actual people that I have spoken to who think teaching a dog tricks is humiliating. Humiliating? I really don't think dogs are capable of feeling humiliation, it is a human emotion. Just because you wouldn't want to be chained or crated or do tricks or whatever it is doesn't meant the dog thinks the same way. Of course there is abuse that happens and we can all agree that is wrong, but in general dogs, especially this breed, need structure and perhaps these "offensive" tools to keep them safe and happy.

[N9NACzws]

If any of you are on facebook, feel free to join my "Responsible Owners Against Anti-Tethering Legislation" Fan Page.

For a while there, the anti-tethering brigade were attacking us, but they have left now.

In the past, I have edited photos, so, that you couldn't tell the dog was on a chain. You can't believe how different the reaction to the photo is. The photo with the chain it was like "Those poor dogs" and then without (same photo) "Look how happy she is." lol.

[Trissinas]

So ridiculous... All I have to do is ask J "Want to go on the chain?" and he gets excited, because that's his play time. He can be outside safely on his tie out, and have 30-40 feet of running space. Most of his crazy pics I post outside of the fenced yard, where he looks like a happy lunatic, are on his chain/tie out.


Does this mean that walking your dog on a leash is cruel? Because, many people I know have their dogs on a leash for hours... You know, the HSUS had a stand at a pet event I went to, they were there ALL day, and they had a dog tied to their table. ALL DAY. I really should have pointed out the irony in it.

How about fences? I have seen SO many dogs injured from chain-link, getting paws stuck and pads ripped, one dog I knew climbed his chain link, and fell forward over it, but his front foot was stuck and it broke most of the bones in it while he dangled, screaming, a big GSD. Wouldn't have happened on a chain. I'd seen dogs fence fight and get each other's faces through the fence... dogs properly chained can't touch each other, and can't reach the property edge to fight passing dogs. My own GSDs years back injured themselves MANY times on the fence. Our male needed stitches one his man parts because he went over the 6' fence and slipped on the top, tearing himself open.

All we can do is fight it and use facts and common sense.

[CevepBiageCefm]

Chaining is the new crating I think. I remember 15 or 20 years ago it was monstrously cruel to cage that poor puppy....Wonder how anyone's rugs survived puppyhood lol.

[Jueqelyl]

I've seen chains used abusively. And crates. And prongs. And buckle collars. And chokes. And kennels. And water. And sunshine.

Wouldn't it be nice if everything in life was black and white and we didn't have to tire ourselves out by thinking and making good choices after balancing pros and cons?

Isn't it a shame that we are burdened by having to actually USE our big, thinking brains?

[yatrahnualenu]

Actually, I've been looking around (cause I'm bored like that) and I think I reverse my position. I think chaining IS cruel. The reason I say this is because the pictures on that site do not like pictures of our dogs. By our dogs I mean, healthy and happy dogs that are part of the family. I think they mean chaining as in the leaving of a dog chained outside for it's lifetime. I completely agree that this is indeed cruel. My dog gets chained too but only for a limited time period and he loves it cause he gets to play outside. Growing up, I lived next to a family that had their dog chained outside forever, winter summer, rain, sunshine, doesn't matter. He was practically fur and bones because sometimes they would forget to feed him. Out of sight, out of mind, why even have a dog then? So yes, chaining, if it's used like that is abuse.

[N9NACzws]

Anti-tethering people seem to live in this fantasy world were if only chains were made illegal, then no dog would ever be abused or neglected again.

SO2010, that isn't the chain's fault. It is the owner's fault. Owners like that will neglect/abuse a dog no matter what form of containment or lack of containment they have.

Some of my dogs are full time outside dogs (from time to time, I might let them in the house for a tiny bit), but they are all well cared for, walked, and loved.

[yatrahnualenu]

Anti-tethering people seem to live in this fantasy world were if only chains were made illegal, then no dog would ever be abused or neglected again.

SO2010, that isn't the chain's fault. It is the owner's fault. Owners like that will neglect/abuse a dog no matter what form of containment or lack of containment they have.

Some of my dogs are full time outside dogs (from time to time, I might let them in the house for a tiny bit), but they are all well cared for, walked, and loved.

I know, I'm with you a 100% on this. The people who do this to their dogs, will obviously find other means to abuse their pet. I leave my dog outside for a few a while too sometimes, but the people I'm talking about, never let their dog off the chain. Once in a while, they'll go and feed it but that's it. Do I think chaining should be outlawed? Of course not, it would break my boy's heart

[greeferweq]

Anti-tethering people seem to live in this fantasy world were if only chains were made illegal, then no dog would ever be abused or neglected again.

SO2010, that isn't the chain's fault. It is the owner's fault. Owners like that will neglect/abuse a dog no matter what form of containment or lack of containment they have.

Some of my dogs are full time outside dogs (from time to time, I might let them in the house for a tiny bit), but they are all well cared for, walked, and loved.

We have a neighbor that has told us how cruel it is to chain our dogs.

Boo was an outside dog from Florida and I was going to keep him in the house till spring. It lasted about a month till the newness wore off, then he drove me crazy always wanting to go out. Finally the DH "borrowed" a dog house and remodeled it for him. Even added a heat lamp for when it got real cold. Even with it being so much colder than he was used to, he was so much happier.

Ruby is on a chain all day and comes in when it gets dark. She's almost impossible to condition, so we figured working the chain might help. She's much happier being out on the chain than doing the crate and rotate bit. On rainy days she sulks, the poor little princess thinks the rain will make her melt!

These same people that told us how cruel we are, have an invisible fence around there backyard. Occasionally they throw food out the back door for their 3 dogs, when they remember they're out there. I've never seen them interacting with any of the dogs. I keep waiting for them to call the dog warden on me when I run the dogs with our "red neck dog walker".

[N9NACzws]

Cuddles was like that. I would bring her inside, and the only time she enjoyed it, is if it was really hot outside and we had the AC on. Otherwise, if it was very cold, she wanted to be outside, and she would pace back and forth or whine until I let her outside.

[BeksTeene]

I have a great picture of my dog before we rescued her. It may change your mind.

[denSmumbSes]

I have a great picture of my dog before we rescued her. It may change your mind.

change whos mind?? about what??