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Old 04-14-2010, 04:02 AM   #21
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http://channel.nationalgeographic.co...n/Emily-1.html My favorite episode. She's a very cute little pit
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Old 04-14-2010, 04:02 AM   #22
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We could not talk about illegals, it may just rub someone the wrong way... I don't want someones feelings to get hurt please...

And i love his "cur" Daddy. Is that right Cur? i thought that ment quiter, is that wrong?
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Old 04-14-2010, 06:54 AM   #23
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like that hippo of a cull Daddy that he was always parading around.
That dog died of cancer. Kinda shitty to talk about someone's dead dog like that whether his bloodlines and lineage were acceptable to you or not.

You think Cesar should use break sticks? Do you guys really want some show on Nat Geo encouraging idiots to run around with break sticks without understanding the concept. Kinda the same way that they run around and PSSSHHHH dogs thinking that solves everything?

As for my take on Cesar, Coiler and Cloudk said it right.
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Old 04-14-2010, 07:01 AM   #24
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not really much harm can be done with a beakstick
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Old 04-14-2010, 07:07 AM   #25
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That dog died of cancer. Kinda shitty to talk about someone's dead dog like that whether his bloodlines and lineage were acceptable to you or not.

You think Cesar should use break sticks? Do you guys really want some show on Nat Geo encouraging idiots to run around with break sticks without understanding the concept. Kinda the same way that they run around and PSSSHHHH dogs thinking that solves everything?

As for my take on Cesar, Coiler and Cloudk said it right.
Thank you! Just what I was thinking.
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Old 04-14-2010, 05:04 PM   #26
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what do you guys think about him?
i think he's not a behaviorist, but a guy with some good theories, and practices i don't necessarily agree with.

Do you like his training methods?
i like the fact that he emphasizes exercise and discipline.
i like the fact that he discusses the importance of being a good pack leader.
i think the fact that he even mentions the alpha roll is ridiculous and outdated.
i like his use of physical correction- not necessarily harsh physical correction- i think he goes overboard sometimes.
cesar's methods are great for harder dogs. he could easily break a very soft or submissive dog.

His view on breeds such as the apbt?
i don't like the fact that he keeps his dogs together all the time. i often have wondered how many fights his dogs have gotten into (obviously he isn't going to tell about that on tv!!)
i don't like the fact that he ignores the history of the APBT, and i don't think he's ever had a "pit bull" who had any game- i really think all of his dogs have been pretty cold, or he wouldn't take the chances he does.

Tell me what you think of the guy
i'd never let him handle my dogs, not in a million years.
they wouldn't appreciate his nonsense, and they'd tear each other up as soon as he turned around.
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Old 04-14-2010, 06:15 PM   #27
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not really much harm can be done with a beakstick
I wasn't really talking about hurting a dog.....
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:09 PM   #28
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what do you guys think about him?

Do you like his training methods? His view on breeds such as the apbt?

Tell me what you think of the guy
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:14 PM   #29
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I like watching and learning behavior, his methods work on some dogs and not on others, and if the owners don't follow any method from him or any trainer then the behavior will not change. I have used some of his methods and gotten very good results but like I said some things don't work for some dogs. I do think he is changing how he works with dogs and he is learning too, I have seen him use positive based training in a few cases and do look forward to seeing him develop more methods in training. I think many on here do not like him, I see both positives and negatives with him.
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:25 PM   #30
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I think he has done some great things for the breed but in doing so has also made more people aware of the breed and making them want a APBT because it looks so easy to handle them on the TV show. Which we all know is not accurate. Many will say his training methods are way out of date but in my opinion they work for him and I would rather people get motivated by Cesar's Methods and train the dog then to not train them at all. Just look at all the bitching and complaining we read on here about untrained unsecure dogs would this world not be better if these people would use some type of training. I have used some of Cesars training methods with Marlo and have made some progress I read tons of training books and articles on training I do not agree with anyone on everything but agree with alot on somethings.
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:58 PM   #31
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I think his basic message that dogs need disclipine, exercise, and attention is good. I think the fact that he does mention how APBTs aren't bad dogs is good.

However, I feel that he neglects breeding for a purpose a little too much with his "A dog is a dog, then a breed." So, I feel he hurts the APBT a bit, because he tries to make it sound like "If you are a pack leader, your dog will never fight another." Plus I doubt he leaves his dogs running alone together, but he never seems to mention anything like "Never leave your dogs alone together unsupervised", and to me, that is a bit Irresponsible.
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Old 11-05-2010, 12:05 AM   #32
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i think he is a complete disaster when it comes to APBTs and untill he mentions the word break stick i will always feel that way.
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Old 11-05-2010, 01:31 AM   #33
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what do you guys think about him?
Cesar Milan has some good points and some bad points. I'm neutral, I like some of his methods, others not so much however I do agree with the fact he knows a dog needs plenty of exercise, training, attention and discipline.

Do you like his training methods?
I do believe in being the pack leader. I have noticed depending on my mood and body language my dogs can and will act totally different.

His view on breeds such as the apbt?
He has the a dogs a dog attitude and that is one of the reasons why I am neutral when it comes to Cesar, because a dog is not just a dog and different breeds do have different attitudes.

Tell me what you think of the guy?
Overall I think he has good intentions but some things I believe should be changed.
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Old 11-05-2010, 02:45 AM   #34
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I like the show, I like most shows with dogs though. He does use a lot of negative reinforcement which is not PC these days but I think has worked in the past and continues to work. Every dog is different, every owner is different. I like that he tries to smack some owners in the head about how they are failing their dogs. Breaksticks would be nice to see though he's pretty good about breaking up a fight. I've seen every episode and continue to watch, good tv if nothing else.
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Old 11-05-2010, 02:46 AM   #35
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I think that the lifestyle and relationship between dog/owner that he preaches is pretty good. I like to watch the show and have learned some techniques that have worked great when working with my dog. However, I don't think that you can just watch the Dog Whisperer and know everything that you need to. As mentioned by CHJ, I wish that he put more emphasis on breed (sometimes he does talk about breed traits but not too often). I think that you can learn great things from him if you are educated from other sources as well. There are definitely times when I disagree with something he says/does but if Americans are going to be watching any show on TV about dogs, his is one of the better ones.
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Old 11-05-2010, 03:03 AM   #36
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I must say that if my boyfriend does a PSHHHHH (with no follow through thinking he is a great dog trainer) at one of my dogs again I may kill him...
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Old 12-04-2010, 05:11 PM   #37
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He's just a TV personality. If that were him in real life I would say he a f**king loser.
However, I don't know what he is like in real life so I can't say.

I can say some of his ideas are great, and some are so stooopid.
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Old 12-04-2010, 06:56 PM   #38
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I feel that Cesar Millan is misleading the general public into believing a properly trained dog (regardless of breed) should be able to co-exist together happily even when left home unsupervised. I don't know if he's intentionally misleading the public or if he's unintentionally misleading the public due to his possible own Ignornance in regards to Pit Bulls. He's supposedly claims to be a big supporter but not helping to tell the truth how you should never leave Pit Bulls home alone together is very irresponsible.

My dad and my boss both tell me all the time if my dogs were "properly trained" dogs that I should be able to leave them home together and come back with no issues and just for the record I don't own a true APBT. I deal with rescued "Pit Bulls" so I know nothing of their history or bloodlines, I also own 2 American Bulldogs. All my dogs are separated when left home alone unsupervised I gave up on those two because Cesar the all knowing all powerful one knows best They often mention how Cesar Millan leaves all his dogs together and I tried telling them just because the cameras aren't showing Cesar's crew doesn't mean they aren't there... whatever...

Until he starts speaking the Truth, especially in relations to the APBT, I won't think much of him except for his celebrity status.

Another thing that I HEARD in the rumor mill was some in the Pit Bull Community here in Florida tried to get him down here to oppose the two bills we have sitting in our Legislature that will repeal our current state law that protects all dog owners from BSL. Well, I guess his (Millan's) people said they could get him down here for $15,000. I don't know if that was his price or a set price coming from his people... either way he won't be coming down here and as far as I'm concerned he can keep his rear in California where he belongs.

I'm tired of people who are in an awesome position to speak the truth. The truth really isn't that much to ask for... I place Cesar Millan just above our mainstream media...
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Old 12-04-2010, 07:01 PM   #39
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I like watching him tame then little killer chawawas that seem to be out to bite everything that moves... cracks me up .

I dont think he is terrible, I have learned a few things but at the same time I got training books and breed spacific books and joined this forum and obedience classes to better understand and train my dog...so I guess you can say I have not used any of his methods even though I do find them interesting. I take a little here and a little there because by the end of the day I know my dog best verses some guy on the tv and I think people need to remember that. Dont watch tv to learn about your dog... get sources and spend time with your dog.
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Old 12-04-2010, 07:04 PM   #40
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I think he does a good job promoting proper training for you dog. he does need to say that the dogs need to be supervised at all times.
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