[exsmoker]

So my fiance just sat me down to let me know he was breeding Cleo. I was like HEEELLL NOOOO! His comeback was well i paid for her, i think i should be able to make the decision! But thats a damn lie because i paid $250 and he paid the rest, being $550. So i let him know what i thought about how he was handling all of this, and my 132lb ass dropped his 195lb ass on the floor! I didnt hurt him though! Anyways im freakin pissed. I let him read the "So you want to breed your female" thread and googled some stuff and his mind is still set! Im going to try my best at changing his mind though, and ill update yall on what happens....

[beneitpedro]

How about spaying her?

[borasolit]

If I were you... I'd be setting her up for a spay real soon... like tomorrow!

[Cajlwdvx]

I would just spay her.

[yarita]

i would get her spayed ASAP

[ValintinoV]

I agree....just take her to the vet and have her spayed, not much he can do about that.

[VIDEOHITE]

I agree with everybody else... Go get her spayed! You paid part of her price, so you should have some say-so too. That's kind of sad that he read that "so you want to breed your female" page and he's still dead-set on breeding her. He couldn't do a single thing about it if she was spayed (except maybe get really mad).

[SasortFkire]

Yep, I'd book the surgery very quickly and quietly. If he want's puppies just like her he can go back to the breeder for more.

[irridgita]

if you dont want to show her then get her spayed

[Ifroham4]

I noticed how everybody jumped on this thread and telling her to secretly get her spayed behind his back. I'm going to offer my two cents. I wouldn't do that because that would be a betrayal of trust between the two of you. He actually came to you and told you upfront he is going to breed her. If I were you, I'd tell him upfront that you'd prefer her not to get bred. Think about it, spaying/neutering are all major surgeries and have been shown to cause serious health issues. In males for example, the risk of osteocarcoma triples. Now about it's my dog, it's our dog, it's his dog, etc. I believe a dog belongs to NOBODY but the person he chooses to follow. Anybody can buy a dog, but the dog does not belong to you. The dog only has one true master and that master, the dog alone chooses. I would do what's best for the dog. I would not spay a female just because somebody wants to breed her. Think of the major health implications. Along with this, would you really want a dog to come between you two? Seriously, that would be a breach of trust, much like him cheating on you. I would not do anything drast and while I respect the other members for voicing you to spay her immediately (I believe that was a bit rash though), I would sit him down and talk to him. Remember, she's the one that chooses who's the owner. If she chooses both of you (I'm guessing she does), than both of you will have to discuss this like adults. Don't be like little kids and doing anything underhanded or anything that will affect your relationship as well. This is just my two cents.

Here are some points to take into consideration:

Health of your dog.

Conformation wise.

Reasons he's breeding.

etc.

Take these into considerations and tell him your side of the story. There are two sides to every coin. Also note the talk of BSL, how BSL is unconstitutional for it infringes on our right to own our choice of breed. Well aren't you guys infringing on his right's to breed his dog? I know that if someone were to say I couldn't breed my dog or to anyone of my hog dogger friends, they'd laugh at your face and still breed them as they are hog doggers and they are breeding to improve their program. Just don't do anything rash and do what couples do best, sit down and talk about it like responsible adults. Just my two cents

[Seilehogshell]

Just spay her yourself. Its much faster.

[maonnjtip]

If he want's puppies just like her he can go back to the breeder for more.

I agree with this. Please do not contribute to the over population of puppies. Give one a home!


If he wants to breed her... Ask him what exactly is his reasons for breeding?

[beneitpedro]

Never said to go behind anyone's back.

[blackjackblax]

I noticed how everybody jumped on this thread and telling her to secretly get her spayed behind his back. I'm going to offer my two cents. I wouldn't do that because that would be a betrayal of trust between the two of you. He actually came to you and told you upfront he is going to breed her. If I were you, I'd tell him upfront that you'd prefer her not to get bred. Think about it, spaying/neutering are all major surgeries and have been shown to cause serious health issues. In males for example, the risk of osteocarcoma triples. Now about it's my dog, it's our dog, it's his dog, etc. I believe a dog belongs to NOBODY but the person he chooses to follow. Anybody can buy a dog, but the dog does not belong to you. The dog only has one true master and that master, the dog alone chooses. I would do what's best for the dog. I would not spay a female just because somebody wants to breed her. Think of the major health implications. Along with this, would you really want a dog to come between you two? Seriously, that would be a breach of trust, much like him cheating on you. I would not do anything drast and while I respect the other members for voicing you to spay her immediately (I believe that was a bit rash though), I would sit him down and talk to him. Remember, she's the one that chooses who's the owner. If she chooses both of you (I'm guessing she does), than both of you will have to discuss this like adults. Don't be like little kids and doing anything underhanded or anything that will affect your relationship as well. This is just my two cents.

Here are some points to take into consideration:

Health of your dog.

Conformation wise.

Reasons he's breeding.

etc.

Take these into considerations and tell him your side of the story. There are two sides to every coin. Also note the talk of BSL, how BSL is unconstitutional for it infringes on our right to own our choice of breed. Well aren't you guys infringing on his right's to breed his dog? I know that if someone were to say I couldn't breed my dog or to anyone of my hog dogger friends, they'd laugh at your face and still breed them as they are hog doggers and they are breeding to improve their program. Just don't do anything rash and do what couples do best, sit down and talk about it like responsible adults. Just my two cents

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Please review this beofre saying that spaying has no health benefits. While I agree about neutering, spaying and neutering are COMPLETELY different procedures with completely different risks and consequences, both good and bad.
That link I posted is the most unbiased article I could find, and it provides a lot of good information for both sides.
I also think I remember the OP talking about spaying her dog prior to this incident.
My advice to the OP- sit down, have a chat chit with the fiance, ask him to explain EVERY reason he has to breed cleo, and if his first reason isn't "to better the breed", then you need to stop him right there. If he just wants puppies, tell him to foster a litter from the shelter. After he's done that, I'm sure he won't want to put in the actual work it takes to breed your own litter. Explain to him how much breeding COSTS- health testing and certification, veterinary bills for cleo, x8 for the puppies, food, whelping area, TIME. Once he sees what's really going to happen, then he'll step off his high horse.

[FreeOEMcheapestPHOTOSHOP]

I spayed my Great Dane when my husband was set on breeding. I didnt go behind his back.. he knew the date it was going to happen and I took her and that was that.

[HottBrorb]

I have to chuckle because your story sounds a lot like a couple we've been dealing with at work, maybe after your boyfriend reads this he might change his mind.

This couple that comes into our clinic has two Belgian Malinois. The husband was dying to breed the dogs because "he wanted a puppy off his male" and the wife was adamantly against it. Hubby won out in the end and the dogs ended up breeding. Mind you, these people have no prior experience as breeders.

Well the female ends up having THIRTEEN puppies, and then can't feed them due to complications that arose. Now the wife and husband have to bottle feed thirteen puppies round the clock. The wife didn't realize she was supposed to start the puppies on a routine de-worming schedule, and guess what happened, they all picked up roundworm! She brought in a crateful of pups literally exploding worms, and it turned out her and her husband picked up the parasites from the dogs.

She's spending over a $100 a day in puppy pads, had to have special medicine FedEx'd to Vegas to treat her and her husband, is trying to get her female dog back to health and still doesn't have homes for all the pups all because her husband had to have ONE puppy off his dog. Oh and did I mention hubby is constantly out of town, leaving the wife with the majority of the work? Breeding really isn't all that much fun when you have no idea what you're doing.

[ValintinoV]

it turned out her and her husband picked up the parasites from the dogs. Ack! That is horrible....

[cQT6nmEc]

Wow.... after reading the "so you want to breed your female" and he's still set on breeding her??

What's her background, do you know all her history? I'd try to explain to him how it's a crap shoot if you don't know their history as far as genetics go, and that if you do breed her, you will insist on having all the pups spayed/neutered before they are placed in homes, then call your vet to get a price on what it will cost to have... say 8 puppies... spayed/neutered before they go to new homes, and tell him that if he does breed her, that's the agreement, that way, you know the pups will not be having pups. Then I would want him to have at least 8 homes lined up to take the pups, and ask him if he 100% agrees to take the pups back if for any reason, they don't work out in their new homes. Is he willing to raise and keep the pups that can't be placed, or have to be returned?? Try to do a breakdown of the cost, including spaying/neutering the pups, of what it will cost per year, for their upkeep, food, shots and everything that goes with having a dog.. times 8. And just to add food for thought, let him know that the litter could be as high as 10-12 pups, instead of 8 or less, that you guys will be responsible for. Hopefully, that will get him to thinking and change his mind.

[yarita]

show these links to your fiance
LETTERS FROM SHELTER/RESCUE WORKERS
Breeder Code of Ethics
health testing... Doesn't mean just a yearly vet check - health nutritional care
free and low-cost spay/neuter database - health nutritional care
points to consider before breeding your dog - general dog discussions
recognizing an unethical breeder - health nutritional care
are you a backyard breeder?

what you don't see at the pound

Dog in labor

What do I need to do before I breed my bitch?_
http://www.pitbull-chat.com/showthread.php?t=49976

[VastDrura]

Contact your local animal services and find out how many animals were euthanized in 2009 and see if they can break it down to how many were pit bull type dogs. Hopefully that will convince him not to contribute to the problem when he sees that horrible figure. Sorry he isn’t seeing things your way. I hope you two work it out not only for baby Cleo but so that you guys agree to do things as a team. If both don’t agree…maybe it’s not the best idea??? Just my 2 cents... Good luck!!! J