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My mother & I were discussing the subject of whether dogs (& cats) love their humans. I say they can. She meanwhile is of the opinion that what appears to be love or happiness is merely an instinctive response to elicit a caregiving response from us, much as a young child does.
So what do you think? Can dogs love or not? |
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There's a great book by Patricia McConnell (trainer/behaviorist/scientist) called For the Love of a Dog. http://www.patriciamcconnell.com/pro...ons-human-dogs
It looks at dog's emotions from both a scientific and experience/anecdotal point of view. So, she looks at things like similarities in brain structure and chemical responses between human and canines. She also talks about experiences she's had w/her own dogs, or helping other people w/theirs. She's a great writer, I actually listened to it on CD from my local library. I honestly think that it's a worthwhile read/listen for anyone w/any interest in dogs. Yes, I do believe dogs can love. I think we all know of dogs that grieved when they lost a housemate, and I think grief is associated w/love. I don't think a dog's love is exactly the same as a human's, I think dogs are less complicated. |
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I don't think a dog's love is exactly the same as a human's, I think dogs are less complicated. Animals are more pure and of a single nature. Humans are double standards, and all over the map. Which is why I think its important to keep strong emotional human complexities out of our relationships with our dogs so we don't drive them carzy. |
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Yes, I would like to think they do too. But here were some of her points. They disturbed me b/c they do make sense:
- They're happy to see us b/c we feed them, let them outside, play with them, etc. Just like they're UNhappy see the vet b/c the vet gives them shots & does things to them that are unpleasant. Their "happiness" to see us is simply a result of positive association. - They snuggle with us in our beds b/c it's comfortable. - They want to be in the house with us b/c it's comfortable. - They want to be with us b/c good things happen to them (i.e. fed, ride in the car or walk) - They protect us b/c they're either resource guarding (we're a prized resource to them since we provide food, water, outdoor access, etc.) or they are displaying fear aggression or defensive aggression. When I asked her about my cat who sits with me during my seizures she said he was just sensed something was wrong with me biologically & was sitting by me waiting for me to die so he could eat my face! ![]() |
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Yes, I would like to think they do too. But here were some of her points. They disturbed me b/c they do make sense: I don't know if my dogs love me like I love them, but darn if I don't think they are telling me that when they lay their head on my shoulder and sigh heavily. If anything they are surely content. |
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I agree when the dogs sigh or the cats sit on my lap & purr, but all that means is that they're happy.
As for the face eating thing, that freaked me out - but what freaked me out more is that it happens!!!! I heard 2 pugs were eating their owner a few weeks ago! If they truly loved us, they wouldn't eat us - would they?? ![]() lol. |
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I agree when the dogs sigh or the cats sit on my lap & purr, but all that means is that they're happy. ![]() |
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True, but ...
1: The pugs didn't use ketchup. (Nasty dogs! Don't they know everything tastes better with ketchup?) 2: They didn't attempt to prey on one another. Why? And of course this isn't an isolated incident. I could see if this is a one time thing, but dogs eating their owners isn't unheard of. |
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