[RafaelYV]

i have been looking at tons of threads talking about game bred apbts and many different opinions and i want to clear up my outlook on this. ok as for me im fairly new to this forum so my input may not matter one way or the other. i have owned a few apbts and i love them to death the breed is amazing. but could i say i have a game breed apbt? idk it seems to me it depends on what game bred means. as for game bred as far as bloodlines from the dogmen then i would say my dogs are probly not game bred. how would you define game? could you really say that it would have to be measured in a pit? game from what i have picked up is when a pit is under extreme circumstanes and its willingness to finish what has been started with its drive and determination. but those odds wouldn't have to be against another dog would they? imho i dont believe its all about bloodlines and matches. i dont think how people used to match dogs are wrong as i have never done so but think that the dogs were great and treated good. but i do believe it is all in what a pit is game for as to what makes it a game dog or not.

[Sydaycymn]

For traditional historical purposes, I would think that game-bred would mean a dog whose parents are both proven winners in the box. I would also say a game APBT is a dog who has proven himself in the box with wins. In 2009 America you cannot determine the above 2 without breaking laws. The only way to actually have a game-bred or game APBT is to get one from an area of the world where matching is legal, or more specifically, not illegal.

[VYholden]

I can't disagree with Bill.... a dog from matched and proven parents.. or at least several proven dogs in the first four generations

[Anaedilla]

or at least several proven dogs in the first four generations

thats always what i figured,
the dog would have to be tested to be proven game.

but game bred juss means you got proven winners and producers throughout the first four gens (like NC stated)

you can have a game-bred dog and it still be a cur,
it doesnt really work the other way around!

[enactolaelant]

You're dog can be tough as hell and show it outside of the box, but game is to refer to how he is in the box.

[Nosmas]

"The only way to actually have a game-bred or game APBT is to get one from an area of the world where matching is legal, or more specifically, not illegal."

Oh ye of little faith.

Know the right people...

[Tactattcahhaw]

The only way to actually have a game-bred or game APBT is to get one from an area of the world where matching is legal, or more specifically, not illegal.

sorry to bust your bubble but there are no shortage of game proven dogs in the U.S you just got to know the right people or you can just search around on feds-online and look for the dumb asses that like to all but convict themselves on a website

[enactolaelant]

i'm sure he knows that, he's just keeping it legal.

[RafaelYV]

so as for a dog being game it is only measured in a match?

[fuesquemill]

so as for a dog being game it is only measured in a match?

yes

[Nosmas]

In the sense the word is described with these dogs then yes.

[Sydaycymn]

Thank you Garrett, you're the only one who got it.

[Nosmas]

So it begs the question if the only way to know how game a dog is, is in a combat situation, who gives a damn how game they are and why would it be something to even consider?

[SmuffNuSMaxqh]

Back to the OP they are asking "game" versus "game bred" and I think it may be helpful to explain the difference.

Which is from what I understand, "game" describes a dog that had been "proven game" (in other words fought and met a standard of "gameness" as part of that), and "game bred" means the offspring of (one or more, depending on who you ask) of the above said "game" dogs.

[Sydaycymn]

People want game/game-bred dogs for the same reasons people want Porsches or Ferraris. They might obey the traffic laws but they feel good knowing how fast their cars really can go if need be.

[SmuffNuSMaxqh]

People want game/game-bred dogs for the same reasons people want Porsches or Ferraris. They might obey the traffic laws but they feel good knowing how fast their cars really can go if need be.

You are onto something there IMO.

Maybe Scottie will suddenly beam them down to the Autobahn, for example. Then gosh you wouldn't want to be stuck there with a clunker that could only do 120 MPH. Totally freaking embarrassing, that would be. (Maybe even dangerous!)

Ha ha.

[Nosmas]

But people will only spend such a premium on a Ferrari to "see what it can do" every now and then. Tut tut...

[fuesquemill]

the truth is 90 % of these people wanting this fast ferrari.....wouldnt have a clue what to do with it once it got above 70 mph anyway......so why the need for a fast car ..........ego,s......thats all.

[investmentonlinev2006x]

so as for a dog being game it is only measured in a match?

Indeed!!

[RafaelYV]

the truth is 90 % of these people wanting this fast ferrari.....wouldnt have a clue what to do with it once it got above 70 mph anyway......so why the need for a fast car ..........ego,s......thats all.

so is this the reason for wanting a game bred apbt?? if someone pays extra money for a dog that that is game bred and never uses it isn't that kind of an ego thing?