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Many threads have discussed the argument between a hidden variables approach versus a multi-verse approach in attempting to describe an underlying reality.

The centrepiece of the argument seems to relate to a TOE possessing no preferred frame of reference which is a very valid argument if attempting to account for complete unification.

Bells theorem seems to have dispatched the hidden variables camp to the sin bin, but IMO this is only in the context of those hidden variable theories seeking to explain a TOE in the context of properties of objects which invokes HUP eg. the notion of non-locality or counterfactual definiteness.

The question I have is whether the features of QM (eg the principle of superposition) can still be found in a theory of vibrating energy quanta that operates in a 3D and 1T universe. If we think in terms of a universe 'as a container of energy' in which this energy vibrates within a granular spacetime fabric that fills the universe, can we restore the notion of no preferred frame of reference at the local level by adopting a global frame of reference requirement...... A bit Machian in intent...... For example, I see the frame of reference argument only being directed at the local level. If we were forced to account for a frame of reference at the global level, we would need to take into account the sum total of all the interacting waves of energy that fill the universe.

I am actually trying to work out whether a multi-verse proposition versus the above description are actually two ways to look at the same underlying principle.

In effect I think I am trying to force the mathematics describing a hilbert space to occupy a 3D and 1T universe by virtue of the requirement that you are forced to take into account the geometrical properties of each grid of the spacetime fabric in defining a global wavefunction......if that makes any sense........*gack*....(probably doesn't).

The picture I have in my mind is an elastic structural grid in which energy is contained. If the grid was rigid, and identical throughout the universe, then homogeneity would rule and no discernible properties would be attributed to these locales, however as the grid is elastic, certain locales could be filled with a greater energy content than others resulting in observable differences between certain locales. The ENTIRE elastic grid however works to confine to a degree the energy at each specific location in spacetime resulting in an array of differring vibrational resonances within each grid that attributes specific properties to each location in spacetime. Recognising the conservation of energy, when a measurement is performed in a laboratory we are actually re-distributing the energy from one location of the grid to another via our measuring device. This displaces energy contained in one spacetime location and tops up the energy in another spacetime location. The result alters the resonance at each spacetime location and is expressed by a change in resonance that alters the properties attributed to this location in in the grid. You can probably see where I am going with this idea. Disturbing the grid creates energy re-distributions that move from the point of disturbance throughout the grid like a pebble dropped into the water......anyway, food for thought.

PS The thread should be titled, "Restoring no preferred LOCAL frame of reference to a single universe"

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