[SarSerceSaice]

Ok there are 6 pieces of ?junk like a lander on the Moon

well they await retrieval LOL....

[OWV9LSxH]

OK 6

What about manned landings ?

6 manned landings

[L6RLnyfl]

well they await retrieval LOL.... unlikely. they are regarded as historic sites and it would be frowned upon to interfere with them.

[Woziwfaq]

Thanks Bogsnorkler


That's great....

[adoreorerie]

Wondering why the Moon is so difficult... What do you mean, difficult? There have been more objects landed on the Moon than on Mars.

[nonDosearrany]

I heard that going back to the Moon might take 10 years

Difficult ?
no atmosphere, no parachutes etc

Just wondering why the long lag time between landing and a future return

[saerensenatljn]

I heard that going back to the Moon might take 10 years Zarkov, you seem to be comparing the difficulty of manned lunar missions with unmanned Mars missions.

[opelonafqe]

Yes, I am... because one leads to the other normally

It seems the Moon does not belong to this logic

Manned..manned...manned.. etc

Interesting IMO

[Scukonah]

What?

[ResistNewWorldOrder]

USSR probes
Luna 2 crashed 13 September 1959
Luna 5 crashed 12 May 1965
Luna 7 crashed 7 October 1965
Luna 8 crashed 6 December 1965
Luna 9 landed 3 February 1966
Luna 13 landed 24 December 1966
Luna 15 crashed 21 July 1969
Luna 16 landed 20 September 1970
Luna 17 landed 17 November 1970
Luna 18 crashed 11 September 1971
Luna 20 landed 21 February 1972
Luna 21 landed 15 January 1973
Luna 23 landed 6 November 1974
Luna 24 landed 18 August 1976

NASA / US probes
Ranger 4 crashed 26 April 1962
Ranger 6 crashed 2 February 1964
Ranger 7 crashed 31 July 1964
Ranger 8 crashed 20 February 1965
Ranger 9 crashed 24 March 1965
Surveyor 1 landed 2 June 1966
Surveyor 2 crashed 23 September 1966
Surveyor 3 landed 20 April 1967
Surveyor 4 crashed (or possibly exploded just above surface) 17 July 1967
Surveyor 5 landed 11 September 1967
Surveyor 6 landed 10 November 1967
Surveyor 7 landed 10 January 1968
Lunar Orbiter 1 crashed 29 October 1966
Lunar Orbiter 2 crashed 11 October 1967
Lunar Orbiter 3 crashed 9 October 1967
Lunar Orbiter 4 crashed 31 October 1967
Lunar Orbiter 5 crashed 31 January 1968

There have been six manned moon landings -
Apollo 11 landed 20 July 1969
Apollo 12 landed 19 November 1969
Apollo 14 landed 5 February 1971
Apollo 15 landed 30 July 1971
Apollo 16 landed 20 April 1972
Apollo 17 landed 11 December 1972 LOl, wouldn't want to be a statistician on this one

[CiccoineFed]

Don't bother, you don't have the aptitude for mathematics anyway.

[r7rGOhvd]

Actually, from my understanding, most Moon probes either fell short or overflew the Moon

As I have stated years ago, the Moon-Earth L1 is not known now (?) nor then....
[I have an accurate number]
This meant that a probe could not enter the Moon's spin space with a minimum known velocity
as well an orbit around the Moon is quite eccentric.
It was all hit or miss back then... there was no scientific logic involved.

I am sure that today the hit/miss parameters are a little more worked out... but I suspect Moon-Earth L1 is still only an approximation at all space centres.

Mars is an entirely different set of parameters... circular orbits..known velocities...atmosphere... L1 known (I suspect at least a reasonable approximation)

It is much much easier to land on Mars than on the Moon.

[xjNo4zvD]

Actually, from my understanding, most Moon probes either fell short of overflew the Moon

As I have stated years ago, the Moon-Earth L1 is not known now (?) nor then....
[I have an accurate number]
This meant that a probe could not enter the Moon's spin space with a minimum known velocity
as well an orbit around the Moon is quite eccentric.
It was all hit or miss back then... there was no scientific logic involved.

I am sure that today the hit/miss parameters are a little more worked out... but I suspect Moon-Earth L1 is still only an approximation at all space centres.

Mars is an entirely different set of parameters... circular orbits..known velocities...atmosphere... L1 known (I suspect at least a reasonable approximation)

It is much much easier to land on Mars than on the Moon.

Your pseudo scientific nonesense is amazing.

[SnareeWer]

don't understand a word of it BC ? ... it's OK

One day I will present you with a manual... but until then...take care

[mymnduccete]

don't understand a word of it BC ? ... it's OK

One day I will present you with a manual... but until then...take care

I hate idle threats and vague promises.

[PolPitasc]

so do I

time will tell all
take care

[Hbkj89D2]

so do I

time will tell all
take care

Time tell all what? I hope it is something relevant.

[halfstreet]

so do I

time will tell all
take care

I thought you siad time was a nonsense, Zarky, a human construct. Be consistently deluded, at least.

[SinyugiN]

The unification of the infinitely enormous and the infinitely small
Cosmic existence is totally recursive.

[ManHolDenPoker]

a human construct. yes.. I am talking to humans, I suppose.... so you know what I mean