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08-14-2012, 06:46 PM
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 Dirty Electricity
A friend recently asked my opinion on 'dirty electricity' filters to protect against damage to health.
The only dirty electricity I'm familiar with is the type generated by electronic switching circuits, and that is mainly to stop electrical interference with other gear. I googled 'dirty electricity' and the vast majority of hits refrred to commercial products, mainly "filters" which are purported to remove the effects of dirty electricity in the home, and thereby promote health. I could find no peer reviews on the science behind the theories or reviews on what the filters are, their effetiveness, what they are filtering (just their cost). The promoter of the theory and recommended products (STETZERiZER filters and meters) is one Donna Fisher. She appears to have no scientific or engineering qualifications. Can anyone refer me to a scientifically credible information of the theory or products recommended ? Thanks |
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08-14-2012, 06:50 PM
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Can anyone refer me to a scientifically credible information of the theory or products recommended ? |
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08-14-2012, 06:52 PM
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Probably not. Dirty electricity can have a detrimental affect on the equipment plugged into it, but not much else.
-------------- I guess if might affect your health if your ventilator carks it due to dirty electricity. |
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08-14-2012, 07:24 PM
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"Can anyone refer me to a scientifically credible information of the theory or products recommended ?"
No. Its just a money making scheme by some dubious people to scam gullible people. Edit: They have invented a problem so they can sell a solution, I checked it out and they link to studies done by themselves to give credibility, they even invented a new unit for dirty electricity the GS (Graham Stetzer) ie the person selling these things . Complete rubbish. |
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08-14-2012, 07:44 PM
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They could try washing the live wires in hot soapy water. That should remove the problem of people worrying about dirty electricty.
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08-14-2012, 07:54 PM
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The STETZERiZER filters will not actually do what is claimed for them.
To do that they would need to be connected into the incoming power feed of the house, not just hung off a power point. IMHO the dirty electricity website: http://dirtyelectricity.com.au/healt...alth-benefits/ Has breached the Trade Practices Act with its claims about the "Health benefits" of the STETZERiZER filters. |
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08-14-2012, 07:55 PM
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"Can anyone refer me to a scientifically credible information of the theory or products recommended ?" |
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08-14-2012, 08:11 PM
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The blurb/write-up hasn't been modified with Australian references, just a few notes to say it needs an adaptor to fit our sockets. Isn't it illegall to sell such equipment in Australia?
"However, as is often the case, the utility feeder neutral is not adequately sized (as required by the Public Service Commission of Wisconsin). At 60 Hz the filters act as... Filters are designed to be installed throughout the home in a pattern that corresponds to the distributed nature of the need. For example, installing two filters close to a desktop computer or a television is normally appropriate and effective. Installing filters, normally from two to six, close to the input power panel is recommended to address high frequency currents entering on the power lines. The total number of filters required depends on the size of the home, the amount of electrical equipment, and the quality of the power from the grid. Twenty filters are normally adequate for a “typical” house." A nice little earner. $1200 plus for one house. I wonder how many they have sold. And what is/are GS units other than the initials of Graham Stetzer!! |
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08-15-2012, 12:57 AM
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Dirty refers to the fact that the wave won't be a nice smooth sinusoid at 50hz. There will be lots of spikes etc, basically higher frequencies imposed on the signal. Why this would affect your health, who knows? Basically it is a scam.
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08-15-2012, 01:10 AM
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Nice little scam indeed.
"the average home requires 10 filters" and they are $60 each. As others have noted, there is absolutely no supporting evidence that household electricity causes the listed problems (note that the listed problems are linked with radar workers from WWII) and as such, you don't need a filter to correct the problems. The wording is quite tricky as it doesn't actually say anywhere that it will correct these problems, or that these problems are caused by electricity (unless you're a radar operator from WWII). And how do you know they are working? You may feel better. Ta da! |
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08-15-2012, 02:26 AM
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08-15-2012, 02:32 AM
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The STETZERiZER filters will not actually do what is claimed for them. Also see this page which has got the same picture as the above website http://www.gsfilters.com/en/home.php Different product names, same scam. |
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08-15-2012, 06:23 AM
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The only dirty electricity I'm familiar with is the type generated by electronic switching circuits, and that is mainly to stop electrical interference with other gear. Ditto.
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08-15-2012, 06:47 AM
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Mind you, if you use it in conjunction with 'Morrie's Quantum Booster' (patent pending) you can reduce your home electricity bills by up to 70%!! |
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08-16-2012, 01:28 AM
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http://cobberwebs.com/images/dirtyFilter.jpg
[from FSM's link to schematic] If this is the actual make up of the device then be warned: ******This device in Australia is utterly illegal and dangerous******* It is utterly contrary to the Australian Wiring Regulations ASNZS 3000. On no account should the active and neutral lines be simultaneously fused. It is rare in the extreme to even fuse the neutral, though there are some exceedingly rare exceptions which apply to very very specific and very very special conditions. The capacitors which make the supposed filter are seriously under-rated and SHOULD/MUST be fully spec'd "across the line" types. These types are designed for such purposes. It should also be noted that in Australia we adhere to the MEN (multiple earth neutral) system, where earth and neutral are "bonded" together. The above circuit shows the supposed filter capacitors connected from the neutral of the supply to ground/earth. In Australia this is a nonsense, since neutral and earth are already tied together. The filter as a consequence is minus half of its components. These types of filter rely on a balancing effect, which is appropriate to US (and other) electrical supply systems. ******This unit is NOT suitable for Australian conditions, and may represent a real HAZARD****** > HTH macx |
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