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Old 04-24-2012, 09:20 PM   #1
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Default I can change your mind about science on the ABC
The ABC's upcoming documentary on climate science is all about entertainment, and very little to do with science.

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Old 04-24-2012, 09:25 PM   #2
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Good link, ABC Science Show had an item 'bout this last Saturday. Worth a listen for those who follow this subject (I'm a bit loathe to call it "debate" any more).
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Old 04-24-2012, 09:31 PM   #3
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A couple of links

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/changeyourmind/

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/changeyourmind/survey/
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Old 04-24-2012, 09:33 PM   #4
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Characters? Really?
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Old 04-24-2012, 09:36 PM   #5
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Characters? Really?
Well so much stuff in this debate is fiction rather than fact, so to call them something else would be misleading I guess...

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Old 04-24-2012, 09:37 PM   #6
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And wouldn't it be nice if ALL media outlets evaluated their own performances as Grist does here on another sciencey topic
"Kudos, @scottros, for bringing same honest self-examination to your own site as you do to other media http://ow.ly/1L6iw7 "

http://grist.org/inside-grist/autism...a-deeper-look/
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Old 04-24-2012, 09:42 PM   #7
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from the link provided:

The documentary will be followed by a Q&A panel, consisting of the two main protagonists (antagonists?) Nick and Rose, and no — not climate scientists, but mining magnate Clive Palmer, and social researcher and writer Rebecca Huntley, and the chief executive of the CSIRO Dr Megan Clark. This ought to make for some lively coverage, given that Clive Palmer has recently alleged that the CIA funded Greenpeace to harm Australian industrial interests

So why wouldn't you have a climate scientist on the panel when you are having a Q&A about climate ?


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Old 04-24-2012, 09:47 PM   #8
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It will all end in tears, with no clear winners. and will confuse the punters and result in more distrust in the science.
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Old 04-24-2012, 09:49 PM   #9
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Good on Grist. It's not often you see a media outlet admit to stuffing up in a science article and especially in autism studies. I can't remember the last time I saw that (which might actually be a fault of my memory).
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Old 04-24-2012, 09:53 PM   #10
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And in MY dodgy memory, the ABC would rarely have NEEDED toi make such acknowledgements ... unlike today ... but they seem to lack the self awareness ... like the OP says though this is entertainment at the expense of the science.

The science team at the ABC must weep tears of blood.
Maybe they'll spill some one day .

*doesn't look hopeful while money talks over scholarship*
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Old 04-24-2012, 09:53 PM   #11
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So why wouldn't you have a climate scientist on the panel when you are having a Q&A about climate ?


It will all end in tears, with no clear winners.
'coz climate scientists are all conspirators in a giant hoax? Much better to hear from "experts" like Palmer...



Q&A used to be a good watch, but I can no longer suffer Tony Jones and the inane comments from the Twittersphere I have to put up with (just don't read them is the reply from those who Tweet. ORLY, it's bruddy near impossible to ignore it).

Serious topics and debate can be entertaining, but that should be a by-product, not a primary consideration. If I want that crap I can tune into those "hard-hitting" current affairs programs the commercial stations run (Any one here recall "Monday Conference", now that was a decent format).
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Old 04-25-2012, 05:10 AM   #12
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And the wonderful (self proclaimed ) has no vested interest in ridiculing climate science or environmental programs has he!!!!
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Old 04-25-2012, 05:16 AM   #13
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And the wonderful (self proclaimed ) has no vested interest in ridiculing climate science or environmental programs has he!!!!
Of course not, all he wants to do is stop us being harmed by those 'orrible Greens and the CIA
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Old 04-25-2012, 05:32 AM   #14
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Ahhhhh they just want to bring down the economy. Goes and hides in self imposed global bubble and slowly dies of CO2 inhalation quickly finds oxygen
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