[vipluka]

So lets summarize the last 24-48 hours for John Boehner:

1) He walks away from negotiations with Obama on a grand bargain which would have 3 to 1 ratio of cuts v. revenue and would knock off $4 trillion from the deficit;
2) He enters a public PR war with the president and polling is showing him losing;
3) he floats a bill which the CBO shows as cutting less than $850 billion from the deficit;
4) he is told by a GOP congressman that his bill will not pass;
5) he cancels the vote today on his bill and is "rewriting it", but it can't even pass the Senate and Obama won't sign it anyway;
6) Cantor is smirking like a weasel waiting to take over.

This guy is a total joke. He is simply irrelevant and the House looks like a kiddie playground.

[bp9QxekG]

Another news blip I caught last night was the Senate Majority Leader relating that his version may pass the Tea Party,
but it won't pass in the US Senate.
The 87 Republican freshmen are just that ~ freshmen.

[priordine]

Yep he is self-destructing. GOP took it a bit too far this time with the 11th hour antics, because now people with big money on the line are actually afraid of default. Wall Street doesn't care if govt shuts down for a few days, but they do care if we get within a hair of default.

[Grenader]

Yep he is self-destructing. GOP took it a bit too far this time with the 11th hour antics, because now people with big money on the line are actually afraid of default. Wall Street doesn't care if govt shuts down for a few days, but they do care if we get within a hair of default.

There is zero chance we default on our loans.

[corriffuniee]

Yep he is self-destructing. GOP took it a bit too far this time with the 11th hour antics, because now people with big money on the line are actually afraid of default. Wall Street doesn't care if govt shuts down for a few days, but they do care if we get within a hair of default.

I think the perception of ineptitude is already there with the rating agencies and everybody else for that matter.

[CindyLavender]

He is not irrelevent. His terror alert skin is currently orange to notify us of the existing threat level.

[lomonel]

This guy is a total joke. He is simply irrelevant and the House looks like a kiddie playground.

Too bad for for Anthony Weiner, he'd have enjoyed that...

[dselectronics]

Too bad for for Anthony Weiner, he'd have enjoyed that...

A very lame comparison-but while we're on that-Weiner wasn't the Speaker of the House, and at least Weiner resigned once he became a joke. Maybe Boehner will too?

[Phassetus]

A very lame comparison-but while we're on that-Weiner wasn't the Speaker of the House, and at least Weiner resigned once he became a joke. Maybe Boehner will too?

Why are we talking about boners and wieners?

[dr-eavealer]

Why are we talking about boners and wieners?

Tigers and boners and wieners! Oh my!

[ringsarcle]

A very lame comparison-but while we're on that-Weiner wasn't the Speaker of the House, and at least Weiner resigned once he became a joke. Maybe Boehner will too?

You may not like boehners position on how best to respond to the national debt, but at least he didn't get caught texting pictures of his ding-dong to young girls...

[EHjEjdqe]

You may not like boehners position on how best to respond to the national debt, but at least he didn't get caught texting pictures of his ding-dong to young girls...

So, what consenting adults do in private is more important to you than someone trying to drive this country into default for political gain?

Also: Mark Foley congressional page incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[jgztw2es]

You may not like boehners position on how best to respond to the national debt, but at least he didn't get caught texting pictures of his ding-dong to young girls...

i wish people cared more about how legislators legislate then what they do with their penises (though i am appalled if what they are doing with their penises involves children or non-consenting adults).

[Innoloinarp]

So, what consenting adults do in private is more important to you than someone trying to drive this country into default for political gain?

Also: Mark Foley congressional page incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1 - I believe that wiener mistakenly sent some texts to an unaware recipient... That would be a non-consenting adult, right?
2 - you're editorializing on boehner's actions... i could just as easily say that he's trying to save the country from people who want to spend us into oblivion. The truth likely lies in between both extremes.
3- why did you bring up Mark Foley? is it because he happens to be a republican? That doesn't matter to me, however, as he too belongs with wiener doing something off the public payroll.

[Axxflcaj]

i wish people cared more about how legislators legislate then what they do with their penises (though i am appalled if what they are doing with their penises involves children or non-consenting adults).

So then you're appalled that Weiner sent aforementioned photos to a non-consenting adult. I'm more appalled that he used valuable time and resources promoting a bulls4it story about how his twitter account was hacked and that someone else had sent the photos to embarrass him, because his name was Weiner. How much time did his counselors spend round-tabling that one?

[Ecurrexchangess]

1 - I believe that wiener mistakenly sent some texts to an unaware recipient...

I know you believe that, but it's not actualy true.

You also implied that he sent said pics someone who was underage, which is also not true.

2 - you're editorializing on boehner's actions...i could just as easily say that he's trying to save the country from people who want to spend us into oblivion. So he's trying to "save" us by forcing us into default, which will (among other things) cause us to spend far more on our debt, long-term, because it will force our hinterest rates up?

Does that make logical sense to you?

3- why did you bring up Mark Foley? Because you brought up Weiner. Also, because his sexual advances WERE unwarranted and they were made against 15 year-olds.

If you're going to bring moral behavior into a political discussion, you're only going to look foolish.

Now, stop trying to derail the discussion and let's get back to the matter at hand.

[encunnibriG]

You may not like boehners position on how best to respond to the national debt, but at least he didn't get caught texting pictures of his ding-dong to young girls...

And what does this have to do with Boehner's bungling of this crisis?

I have to laugh every time I read about this guy. It's reported today that there is a nasty scrum among House Republicans over an email sent by a GOP congressional staffer to outside conservative groups to pressure House republicans to vote against Boehner's bill. Are you freakin kidding me? This guy HAS NO CONTROL over his own caucus. He cannot lobby support for HIS OWN BILL, which is dead on arrival in the Senate anyway.

Meanwhile the DOW plunges 200 points.

Dude you typify the GOP. You would rather talk about penises than recognize the circus that is the GOP House.

[MediconStop]

I know you believe that, but it's not actualy true.

You also implied that he sent said pics someone who was underage, which is also not true.

No i didn't. I said she was "young". He's 46, she's 21. She's young.

So he's trying to "save" us by forcing us into default, which will (among other things) cause us to spend far more on our debt, long-term, because it will force our hinterest rates up?

Does that make logical sense to you?

Boehner is only trying to force the US into default if he opposes ALL plans. If his position is no new taxes, then he may want to stick with it. Seems the Dems had a big problem when GHW Bush went back on that pledge. If Obama won't accept, then the result will be default... if default is so bad, maybe Obama should just accept.

Now, stop trying to derail the discussion and let's get back to the matter at hand.

What discussion? The tone of this tread clearly wasn't a demonstration of desire for two sided discussion.

[alias]

And what does this have to do with Boehner's bungling of this crisis?

I have to laugh every time I read about this guy. It's reported today that there is a nasty scrum among House Republicans over an email sent by a GOP congressional staffer to outside conservative groups to pressure House republicans to vote against Boehner's bill. Are you freakin kidding me? This guy HAS NO CONTROL over his own caucus. He cannot lobby support for HIS OWN BILL, which is dead on arrival in the Senate anyway.

Meanwhile the DOW plunges 200 points.

Dude you typify the GOP. You would rather talk about penises than recognize the circus that is the GOP House.

Bull - sorry, but you can put Anthony Johnson's name on the top of this tread and the vitriol would be a near perfect fit.

[spounnypneups]

No i didn't. I said she was "young". He's 46, she's 21. She's young.

She's an adult.

Boehner is only trying to force the US into default if he opposes ALL plans. The only plan he supposes is one which Democrats in the House will not agree to and which will never pass the Senate. He's not actually offering anything constructive; he's grandstanding.

Also, he's gone from "We can't kick this can any farther down the road" to proposing a plan which would mean going through this all again in nine months.

If his position is no new taxes, then he may want to stick with it. Seems the Dems had a big problem when GHW Bush went back on that pledge. Strawman.

If Obama won't accept, then the result will be default... if default is so bad, maybe Obama should just accept. You're not really clear on how our government works, are you? It's up to the House to create a bill (consitution says funding bills must originate in the House), pass it, and then have it passed by the Senate. Then the President signs it or vetoes it. If he vetoes it, Congress can override the veto.

Obama is only involved at this point as a mediator who's trying to get a deal done. Attempting to pin the blame on him just makes you look silly.

What discussion? The tone of this tread clearly wasn't a demonstration of desire for two sided discussion. So you're blaming your bad behavior on the thread?