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Old 03-22-2010, 02:30 PM   #1
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Default U.S. Healthcare: Now we are SCREWED
Welcome to socialism boys and girls!!!!
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Old 03-22-2010, 02:36 PM   #2
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I expect my premiums to increase 25% in October. And 25% year over year after that. You will also see companies which subsidized employer offered plans bailing out of that system and tossing everyone into private pools as a result. And because all pre existing coverage will have to be covered, everyone will wind up in assigned risk pools with another premium bump on top of that. Until there's actually a call to cover everyone with universal Medicaid. Of which less than 40% of the people who use it will pay for it.

So what's it to be? Malta? Gibraltar? Uruguay?
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Old 03-22-2010, 03:16 PM   #3
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We screwed! In few years I expect a few med-schools to close, a few insurance companies go out of business, and definitely a massive tax increase and premiums.

Massively screwed!!!! Why are we electing idiots!!!!!
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Old 03-22-2010, 04:07 PM   #4
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A sugar/fructose/refined-wheat tax would be more appropriate at consumer and corporate levels for the situation in the US. That would have worked at least to an extent. But guess what? Republicans would have voted against that too because all taxes are bad, and also it's socialism!!! "The government's telling you what you can and can't eat!!!" So yeah, Obama fail but in truth it's still the Republicans' fault for limiting Democratic options.
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Old 03-22-2010, 04:39 PM   #5
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Capital gains and dividend taxes are increasing, marginally around 50% so that the minimum rate is climbing from 15 to 23.8%
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Old 03-22-2010, 05:04 PM   #6
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So yeah, Obama fail but in truth it's still the Republicans' fault for limiting Democratic options.

It has nothing to do with Republicans but with what Obama wanted, which is socialized medicine.
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Old 03-22-2010, 05:28 PM   #7
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And again, the worst president in US history is hard at work to bankrupt America.

We now pay for banks to make bad loans. We pay for people not to work. We pay for car companies not to sell cars, we pay for illegal aliens to come live in this country. We pay for teenage welfare recipients to have more out-of-wedlock babies, and we will soon begin to pay people not to take care of their health.

At the same time (not coincidentally), we've reached a point that more people don't pay any taxes in the US than those who do. So there is, basically, a working class of people who pay taxes, and a larger leisure class who receive all those government entitlements, courtesy of the working class.

Obviously, this is not sustainable.
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Old 03-22-2010, 05:52 PM   #8
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You know how much are insurance premiums in Massachusetts are? Even for those working for a corporation?

What will happen very soon is that businesses, including corporations, will start dropping subsidized insurance coverage as everyone, according to law, will need to have insurance anyways. Will now buy our own insurance which will be very non-cheap service and part of which will be a subsidy for everyone else who does not have one (the Massachusetts way).

The biggest problem, however, will be shortage of doctors. Many doctors will soon leave business especially those close to retirement who already have enough money saved. I will guarantee many of your strip-mall physicians will soon close suite and eventually disappear. My own physician, who in fact for the past 3 years does not take HMO, will definitely leave business. I guess Obama knows a good place to get doctors; very soon a doctor will become an un-popular profession and with a $200,000 education - a joke. In any case we are heading for a huge shortage even if the rate at the number of doctors entering profession will remain the same. People will start going to their physicians or hospitals for finger cuts and to treat a small temperature. No physician in their right mind will every hold a private business for that unless properly compensated. And the hospital lines... will wait forever.
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Old 03-22-2010, 08:02 PM   #9
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A sugar/fructose/refined-wheat tax would be more appropriate at consumer and corporate levels for the situation in the US.
never happen. The wheat lobby is massive in it's own right.
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Old 03-22-2010, 08:03 PM   #10
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Yeah..Its bad. 5 % of illigal immigrants are still not covered
give it another year.
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