[LoohornePharp]

Where are the victims families on this??? *Is this not sacred steal that must be preserved to remind us of 9/11??? *

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/ne...ts%2Dheadlines

[TriammaMade]

It is kind of ghoulish, it is kind of patriotic, *but most of all it is economical. *Ready made steel, ripe for the picking, *if you were in charge, could you turn it down? I am not trying to be difficult, I am stating what most corporations and government agencies think about. *Money is the highest priority! *It always boils down to that fact. Money!Money! Money!*Money!

[lammaredder]

Quote: from amigo32 on 4:18 am on Dec. 27, 2002
It is kind of ghoulish, it is kind of patriotic, *but most of all it is economical. *Ready made steel, ripe for the picking, *if you were in charge, could you turn it down? I am not trying to be difficult, I am stating what most corporations and government agencies think about. *Money is the highest priority! *It always boils down to that fact. Money!Money! Money!*Money! I was more or less being sarcastic. *I'm perfectly fine with the WTC steel being used for a warship, especially one that is named USS New York. *Now that is a fitting memorial, instead of 16 acres of grassland.

[QWNPdpr5]

If it had been used on a USS New York spaceship it would have served mankind in some. Being a warship doesn't sound very appropriate to me.

[derty]

Quote: from Jan on 8:02 am on Dec. 27, 2002
If it had been used on a USS New York spaceship it would have served mankind in some. Being a warship doesn't sound very appropriate to me. And why is that???

[gerturiotf]

OK. *I see what your saying, Evan. *I kind of have to agree.

[PeterPatrickJohn]

"If it had been used on a USS New York spaceship it would have served mankind in some. Being a warship doesn't sound very appropriate to me."

I totally agree. A tragic place lending steel to a ship made to wage war is just a double tragedy.

A noble human endevor like space exploration would be much more fitting.

[imictiorume]

Perhaps they could use the steel in multiple projects, such as a space ship.

[ElcinBoris]

How comforting is THAT for a sailor? A boat made out of a successful target.

[hictchewisa]

I think it would actually inspire the sailors rather than make them nervous of being on a ship made from wtc steel, i doubt that thought will be in any of their minds.

[flowersnewacq]

NavSource Online: LPD-21 New York

[BegeMoT]

"On September 2001, our nation's enemies brought their fight to New York; the USS New York will now bring the fight to our nation's enemies well into the future."



Anyone know the exact date when she'll be launched? It can't be long.

[Arexytece]

Great idea.

[sharpyure]

LOL @ the rendering! The birdcage LIVES!

[orbidewa]

USS New York: Navy's new ship, made with World Trade Center steel, to dock in city on Monday

BY Stephanie Gaskell

October 29th 2009


The Navy assault ship USS New York sails through the Mississippi River after departing Northrop Grumman Ship Systems in Avondale, La.


In this photo provided by the U.S. Navy, members of the Naval Air Station Joint Reserve Base New Orleans honor guard render honors USS New York.

It's the pride of the Navy - and it's finally heading our way.
The New York, made with 7.5 tons of steel from the wrecked World Trade Center, is leaving its home port of Norfolk Naval Station on Thursday for its maiden voyage to New York City.

"The excitement is huge," said Navy spokesman Chief Scott Boyle. "The ship and the crew have been building up to this point for a couple years."
The ship, a San Antonio-class amphibious transport dock, has a crew of 360 - including dozens of New Yorkers. The ship's captain, Cmdr. Curtis Jones, is from Binghamton.

"The New York ties and the emotions that come with this ship, it's almost like a homecoming for the crew," Boyle said.

The bow of the $1 billion ship was forged with steel recovered from the rubble at Ground Zero.

One of its main missions is to transport Marines - it can carry an entire battalion and their equipment, including a 38-ton amphibious assault vehicle, landing craft and an MV-22 Osprey aircraft.

The New York will sail past the World Trade Center site on Monday and dock next to the Intrepid on Manhattan's West Side. The ship will be commissioned Nov. 7.

"Commissioning any ship is a really intense experience. This one is kind of double," Boyle said.

Thousands of New Yorkers, including cops and firefighters who responded to the attacks, are expected to welcome the ship as it sails up the Hudson River next week.

"We really believe that our fallen brothers are riding that ship and are part of the crew, still serving with them," FDNY Capt. John Gormley said.
Here is the plan for the arrival of the ship on Nov. 2.

6 a.m. - A pilot boat will leave Intrepid Pier (Pier 86) to meet the New York near the Verrazano Bridge and accompany it up the Hudson.
7:35 a.m. - Ship passes under the Verrazano.
8 a.m. - Ship stops near World Trade Center site and renders a 21-gun salute.
9:30 a.m. - Ship turns around at the George Washington Bridge and heads for docking at Pier 88.
10:15 a.m. - Ship docks at Pier 88.
11:30 a.m. - Welcome party at the pier.

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/...on_monday.html

[goldeneggs]

USS New York public access:

Pier 88, 12th Ave & 48th St.

– Wednesday, November 4 – 10:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m.
– Thursday, November 5 – 1:00 to 4:00 p.m.
– Sunday, November 8 – 9:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m.
– Monday, November 9 – 9:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m.
– Tuesday, November 10 – 9:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m.
– Wednesday, November 11 – 9:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m.

No backpacks or large packages allowed.

[mdUzAMbG]

I wonder what they plan to do with the rest of that steel. Looks like there's still a lot of it left in the hangar.

[thomaskkk]

A Voyage Bearing a Memory

By A. G. SULZBERGER

NORFOLK, Va. — With a barely noticeable tug, the U.S.S. New York pulled out of its berth here Thursday morning, beginning a four-day journey to New York City, where it will be formally welcomed into the Navy fleet.

As a tugboat pulled the ship backward past the huge vessels in the Navy docks, the length of steel lining the front edge of the bow, which was recycled from the wreckage of the World Trade Center, trailed in a soft wake.

Before long, the ship had swung around under its own motor, and that length of steel sliced through the Atlantic swells below an excited crew, who snapped photos with digital cameras and cellphones.

The New York has been deliberately imbued with symbolism. The crest features an image of the twin towers behind a rising phoenix and the words “Never Forget.” And “the sacred steel in the bow of the ship,” said Cmdr. Curt Jones, is a point of pride among the crew members.

“To me it means that no matter how many times you attack us, we always come back,” said Christopher Davidson, 22, a master-at-arms seaman apprentice in the Navy Reserve from the Soundview section of the Bronx.

But the New York is also a warship. It is roughly the length of two football fields, and it gleams with fresh paint and sophisticated technology. Called an “amphibious transport dock,” it is the fifth in a new line of San Antonio-class vessels, distinguished by two hexagonal structures that make it harder to spot the ship on radar and that some have likened to the twin towers.

The ship was named after New York in response to a request from Gov. George E. Pataki. It is the latest in a string of warships bearing that name, dating to the Revolutionary War. Two sister ships are planned to honor victims who died on Sept. 11 in the attack on the Pentagon and in the crash of the hijacked plane in Pennsylvania.

After the New York is commissioned in a ceremony on Nov. 7, its main function will be to transport Marines around the globe. The ship is traveling south to Camp Lejeune, N.C., to pick up military equipment and additional Marines on Friday, before making the three-day journey to New York.
Currently, 186 Marines are on board, in addition to 359 Navy crew members and 60 reservists.

The group includes many New Yorkers who volunteered for the assignment and many making their first voyage on a Navy vessel. The atmosphere on board was earnest, almost celebratory, in part from the prospect of discovery that comes with a maiden voyage, and in part from the anticipation of a stylish homecoming.

Among those on board are a police officer from Westchester County who spent the days after the Sept. 11 attacks combing through the World Trade Center debris looking for survivors. And, riding on a ship for the first time, is a 20-year-old who learned about the attacks while in class at his Bronx middle school.

The New Yorkers spoke with particular excitement about passing under the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge and approaching the city to a 21-gun salute.

“That is going to be, hands down, the most amazing feeling to know I’m coming home on the U.S.S. New York,” said Frank Lewis, a Bronx resident who is a logistical specialist with the Navy Reserve. “I think that’ll even top the Yankees’ making the World Series, but we’ll see.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/30/ny...l?ref=nyregion

[styhorporry]

For U.S.S. New York, Future Looks Better Than the Past

By A. G. Sulzberger

Bureau of Ships Collection, National Archives The battleship New York underway at high speed, May 29, 1915.

ABOARD U.S.S. NEW YORK, off North Carolina — This is a gleaming $1.3 billion vessel piled high with some of the Navy’s most sophisticated technology. So while watching the hovercraft roar in and out of the lower landing deck on a rainy Friday morning, it is easy to forget that the name has not always been attached to such a venerable fighting machine.

The first New York was a wooden gondola — built of local timber and outfitted with just three cannons — that fought and was destroyed in a single battle during the Revolutionary War.

Seven warships have carried the name U.S.S. New York over the years, from the Revolutionary War to today. The latest incarnation –- carrying steel salvaged after the attack on the World Trade Center — was promoted as an instrument of retribution in the war on terror.

Although the ship’s namesake is a state that prides itself as a center of business and cultural influence and even boasts “empire” on its license plates, the military record of these predecessor vessels has been mixed. Two never saw military duty. Others ended up being destroyed by the military, including the most distinguished of the group, a celebrated battleship used in both World Wars.

Hopes are higher for this version, a marine transport ship that is sailing up the East Cost to New York to be commissioned as part of the Navy fleet. The crew was working to load it with military vehicles and equipment during a stop in North Carolina on Friday, in anticipation of the journey.

The vessel received its name in 2002 after Gov. George E. Pataki asked for a special exemption from a rule that only submarines could carry the names of states. Shortly afterward the Navy announced it would cast 7.5 tons of steel salvaged from the World Trade Center for the ship, a tiny fraction of its total 25,000-ton weight, but which some crew members hope will guarantee the ship a legacy that lasts beyond its expected 40-year lifespan.

Kevin Muse, 22, a member of the medical crew, said that he expected the ship to one day be a museum because of its connection to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. “This ship is part of history,” he said, standing on its deck. “I can bring my grandkids and kids here and show them that’s where I slept, that’s where I worked.”

Already the Discovery Channel has run a special naming the ship one of a dozen “hero ships” in United States history. (“She is not just any ship, she is the U.S.S. New York,” the announcer declares.) “At that point we didn’t have bathrooms, we had never left the pier, most of the crew had never set foot aboard, and we were a hero ship,” said Lt. Cmdr. Laura Bender, the chaplain. “We hadn’t done anything yet.”

Throughout the ship are reminders of its place in history. The executive officer keeps a scrapbook detailing the history of past New York ships in his office that was assembled by a machinist apprentice who helped build it.

And trinkets from the past can be found throughout the ship, including silverware from the last two vessels and a bugle, used for reveille calls on the last one, that was passed from shipmate to shipmate after World War II. (Bugles are no longer used: sailors awoke on Friday to a series of ear-piercing whistles broadcast over the intercom system along with firm instructions to get out of bed.)

According to the Navy, the first New York, the gondola, was commissioned by Gen. Benedict Arnold (before he became a traitor) and was part of the fleet used to slow the British during the Battle of Valcour Island on Lake Champlain. After sustaining damage it was burned to prevent British capture as Arnold and his men fled, a marker of the fate of its next two successors.

The next New York, a frigate commissioned in 1800, was burned in harbor by the British during the War of 1812. Its successor was built in the 1820s but never launched: it was burned by Union forces to prevent its capture during the beginning of the Civil War. The fourth New York, a steam-powered, single-mast ship, was sold and renamed in 1888 before it ever left port. An armored cruiser built at the end of the 19th century took the name, serving in the Spanish American War before being renamed. (It too was later sunk, to avoid capture during World War II, according to the scrapbook in the commander’s office.)

The next incarnation, then a state-of-the-art battleship, took the mantle when its keel was laid on Sept. 11, 1911, in the Brooklyn Navy Yard. Serving in World War I, it featured the most modern military technology. By World War II it was a still valuable antique, surviving torpedo and kamikaze attacks and earning three stars in battle, including at Iwo Jima. After the war it was part of the fleet used to test the effects of atomic bombs on warships at Bikini Atoll. It survived two explosions but was later destroyed during target practice.

“She was a tough ship,” said Cmdr. Erich B. Schmidt, the executive officer.
Before the battleship New York was sunk, James Bennett served on that old coal-burning vessel, starting as a mess cook in 1936 and leaving as a fireman in the boiler room in 1940, he said Friday. At nights he slept in a hammock, swinging to the rhythm of the sea swells.

Mr. Bennett — who lives in Gretna, La., near where this ship was built, and is now 93 — visited the new ship during its christening and for a Sept. 11 ceremony. He will be one of about 70 sailors from the old ship to attend the commissioning ceremony in New York. A rivet from their ship and sand from Iwo Jima have been welded into the new ship’s mast.

“The new ship,” he said, “is a fine ship.”

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/20...than-the-past/

[JNancy46]

There was another memorial service today for the 09-11 victims as their relatives returned near Ground Zero where the ship came as close as it could, possibly docking near Battery Park before the ship leaves on it's journey back to Virginia where it was built.