[ZonaPutaX]

If there had been a solid, well-patrolled fence along the border... or if the Minutemen had been on patrol... this guy would still be alive today.

BTW, Pine Valley is about **20** miles from the Mexican border, not 60 as the story claim; and is about 50 miles east of San Diego.

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http://www.thedesertsun.com/apps/pbc...603120350/1024

Lost Mexican national dies in snow

The Associated Press
March 12, 2006

ALPINE - A group of illegal immigrants got lost in freezing, snowy country in eastern San Diego County and one died before six others were rescued Saturday, the Border Patrol said.

The Mexican nationals, all men, became disoriented near Corte Madera in Pine Valley, a high-elevation rural area east of San Diego, Border Patrol spokesman Richard Kite said.

A storm had dumped 8 inches to 1½ feet of snow on the ground, he said.

One of the men either had a cell phone or used a roadway call box to contact the California Highway Patrol about 7:30 a.m., Kite said.

The CHP contacted the Border Patrol to say there were "people in distress in the snow," and agents trained in back-country rescue hunted about three hours before finding the group, Kite said.

One man, whose identity was not immediately known, was pronounced dead at the scene. The others were treated at the scene, possibly for mild hypothermia, but none of their conditions were life-threatening, Kite said.

He did not know whether the men were dressed for the weather and said they would be interviewed to determine the circumstances.

Pine Valley is about 60 miles from the Mexican border.

"You have people who left from Tijuana in the morning" and may not have known about the snowfall, he said.

"It's not the first time that people have tried to make it through up there under those conditions," he said. "A lot of times, smugglers will tell these guys, 'It's gonna be a half-hour walk. Don't worry about it.'"
Sometimes "they're simply not dressed for the elements and they become separated."

[MinisuipGaicai]

That's so sad

[freddystone]

That's so sad

It absolutely is. This guy was probably trying to make a better life for himself, and/or trying to provide for a family. And now he will never do either.

You have to wonder what life in Mexico is like, that its own citizens are willing to risk their lives to get out and get to the U.S. The only way this huge tide of illegal immigration will end, is if things in Mexico improve enough that the citizens no longer want to leave. I wonder what the chances are... and why.

[deandrecooke]

The Mexican government is corrupt at all levels. If you open up a factory, you will be forced to pay protection money from either the local crooks or the local police- whoever has the upper hand at the time. What entrepreneur would risk anything in that environment. As a result, there are no jobs.

[sapedotru]

It is nice to see people have empathy for our cousins in Mexico.

They are no different than those who came from Europe and elsewhere.

[Rithlilky]

It is nice to see people have empathy for our cousins in Mexico.

They are no different than those who came from Europe and elsewhere.

So identifying the root cause of a problem is not being empathetic? The guy's dead, man. Spend your efforts on flowers, and I'll spend mine on fixing the cause.

[DioraMoostebeers]

The first line in the article is .. "A group of illegal immigrants" ...

Well .. if they had done it legally, they'd still be alive.

[Liabmeasez]

The Mexican government is corrupt at all levels. If you open up a factory, you will be forced to pay protection money from either the local crooks or the local police- whoever has the upper hand at the time. What entrepreneur would risk anything in that environment. As a result, there are no jobs.

Glock, such corruption usually isn't too well documented, for obvious reasons. But do you have any articles or whatever you can point to, to point out particular instances where this has happened? I could use them. Thanx dude....

[Pheddytrourry]

I agree Little Acorn. One of the things we need to do to fix the illegal immigration problem is to help Mexico be a country with good jobs for the people so they don't have to rick their lives coming here illegally. All they are trying to do is provide for their families.

Rent the Movie - Maria Full of Grace - to get an idea of what it's like.

[bF8CCmmr]

.... do you have any articles or whatever you can point to....

I don't, as my reference if from talking to Mexicans who live here and when I was down in Cancun a few years ago. When I went there what really struck me was seeing the densely populated shoreline, and behind it the huge expanse of undeveloped Yucatan, and I asked myself "why the hell isn't that developed?". You talk to locals and they tell you things, for instance: never rent a car, because a foreigner will always be stopped for some traffic violation, and if you are, you need to have some cash to bribe yourself out of it. I also remember that whenever you see a cop or any other government official- they are far and few between- they all act like little Napoleons, and the attitude of everyone around them instantly changes to avoid attracting attention to themselves. Even street vendors who are constantly trying to attack attention. I know it probably sounds like a spaghetti western but that is exactly my experience.

[kathy]

Just think!
These people were trying to get into the US illegally knowing full well that Bush is President!
What about that?

[Necedofer]

Yup, America sucks, that's why people are dying to come here.