[tpdirorg]

'Killing One Person Is
Murder - Killing Thousands
On 911 Is Domestic Policy'
This Bumber Sticker Slogan On Seattle
Resident's Car Has Led To MK-ULTRA
Tactics Used Against Her

By Greg Szymanski
2-11-6

The Bush administration spy campaign is reaching epidemic proportions, as well as taking a page right out of Nazi Germany or the old Soviet Union 'destruction of civil liberties handbook.'

"The state of the Union is deplorable," said Seattle citizen, Susan Elmes, who recently has been tailed and harassed by government agents for displaying anti-administration bumper stickers on her car and trying to organize 9/11 truth rallies at local libraries. "It's gone beyond spying. They even entered my house and tried to poison my cats."

To show how the U.S. has deteriorated as a country, Elmes was investigated by government thugs for bumper stickers like "Killing One Person Is Murder: Killing Thousands At 9/11 Is Domestic Policy" as well as such things like MKULTRA street hacks carve satanic symbols in library tables during a recent 9/11 film presentation.

And what gets lost in the Bush Spygate story, where people are calling for his impeachment for bugging phone lines through the NSA, are the horrendous violations of civil liberties going on to thousands of others like Elmes, violations sanctioned by the Nazi-like White House authority run by a paranoid coward Bush.

While constitutional law scholars like Professor John Turley, formerly of Tulane University, rake Bush over the coals for illegally authorizing intelligence gathering by the FBI, CIA and NSA, the center of attention should be on the authorization of "torture and abuse" by street thugs, not merely the wiretapping and data gathering.

"They gather data and wiretap so they can then muscle in on the activist organizations with hired street gangs and MKULTRA-trained individuals in order to stop dissenters before they reach the critical mass," said one former San Diego Air Force Captain now trying to expose the rampant neo con corruption filtering down to even local peace and charitable organizations, not in step with the Bush agenda.

For rest of story go to http://www.arcticbeacon.com/11-Feb-2006.html

[Fellionas]

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The Fez

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[Alexunda]

...The Bush administration spy campaign is reaching epidemic proportions, as well as taking a page right out of Nazi Germany or the old Soviet Union 'destruction of civil liberties handbook.' ...

Most of the good whacko theories are HERE.

Say "Nazi", loose any credibility.

[BWJfEkOB]

'Killing One Person Is
Murder - Killing Thousands
On 911 Is Domestic Policy'
This Bumber Sticker Slogan On Seattle
Resident's Car Has Led To MK-ULTRA
Tactics Used Against Her

By Greg Szymanski
2-11-6

The Bush administration spy campaign is reaching epidemic proportions, as well as taking a page right out of Nazi Germany or the old Soviet Union 'destruction of civil liberties handbook.'

"The state of the Union is deplorable," said Seattle citizen, Susan Elmes, who recently has been tailed and harassed by government agents for displaying anti-administration bumper stickers on her car and trying to organize 9/11 truth rallies at local libraries. "It's gone beyond spying. They even entered my house and tried to poison my cats."

To show how the U.S. has deteriorated as a country, Elmes was investigated by government thugs for bumper stickers like "Killing One Person Is Murder: Killing Thousands At 9/11 Is Domestic Policy" as well as such things like MKULTRA street hacks carve satanic symbols in library tables during a recent 9/11 film presentation.

And what gets lost in the Bush Spygate story, where people are calling for his impeachment for bugging phone lines through the NSA, are the horrendous violations of civil liberties going on to thousands of others like Elmes, violations sanctioned by the Nazi-like White House authority run by a paranoid coward Bush.

While constitutional law scholars like Professor John Turley, formerly of Tulane University, rake Bush over the coals for illegally authorizing intelligence gathering by the FBI, CIA and NSA, the center of attention should be on the authorization of "torture and abuse" by street thugs, not merely the wiretapping and data gathering.

"They gather data and wiretap so they can then muscle in on the activist organizations with hired street gangs and MKULTRA-trained individuals in order to stop dissenters before they reach the critical mass," said one former San Diego Air Force Captain now trying to expose the rampant neo con corruption filtering down to even local peace and charitable organizations, not in step with the Bush agenda.

For rest of story go to http://www.arcticbeacon.com/11-Feb-2006.html

I agree, the stat eof the union is deplorable--and that women is a representative of just how bad it has become. She is no better than Bush is. Any person capable of truly independent thought can see how extreme both sides are in their choice of words, behavior, and overall intolerance towards dissenting opinions.

For you or anyone else to act like you are being persecuted is beyond dumb. You have no comprehension of what oppression is.

[ggiifdfalls]

Entered her house and tried to poison her cats? hmmm sounds fishy.

My bumper stickers say: (well actually magnets, I don't want to mess up my new cute little Honda Civic with stickers)

Coexist (like my sig, click on it)
Join the Army, travel to exotic distant lands, meet exciting unusual people, and kill them
A W in a circle with a slash
Well behaved women seldom make history
Peace and Equality are moral values
More trees less Bush

So you think they might be knocking on my door?

I have a lawyer lined up already LOL!

[Obgrfbke]

Entered her house and tried to poison her cats? hmmm sounds fishy.

My bumper stickers say: (well actually magnets, I don't want to mess up my new cute little Honda Civic with stickers)

Coexist (like my sig, click on it)
Join the Army, travel to exotic distant lands, meet exciting unusual people, and kill them
A W in a circle with a slash
Well behaved women seldom make history
Peace and Equality are moral values
More trees less Bush

So you think they might be knocking on my door?

I have a lawyer lined up already LOL!

Be VERY glad you don't live under Islamic rule. You would no longer have your cute little car, the right to drive it, or your freedom. Real ME prisons make Abu Grahib look like a country club.

[carinsurancess]

I've always thanked the Goddess that I live in the USA. What does that have to do with this thread?

Oh and I have a Rolling Stones tongue and a Grateful Dead Steal Your Face and a I love NY sticker too. Small ones. All I need now is a Metallica Scary Guy or Ninja Star and I am all set

[VIAGRAENLINOBARATOCAMPRAR]

Entered her house and tried to poison her cats? hmmm sounds fishy.

My bumper stickers say: (well actually magnets, I don't want to mess up my new cute little Honda Civic with stickers)

Coexist (like my sig, click on it)
Join the Army, travel to exotic distant lands, meet exciting unusual people, and kill them
A W in a circle with a slash
Well behaved women seldom make history
Peace and Equality are moral values
More trees less Bush

So you think they might be knocking on my door?

I have a lawyer lined up already LOL!

I must take offense at the Army sticker. That is highly insutling to persons who have put alot more on the line than either you or I have. Frankl,y it's those type of stickers that irritate me the post. Say what you want about a politician or a policy, but leave military bashing out of it. The military only does what is asked of it by our elected officials.

[tuszit]

My sister is a Major in the Air Force. My Uncle a retired Captain in the Navy. My Dad was in the Army. I have nothing against the military. The sticker is irony. The sticker is satire for the ads the military runs to get people to join. Everyone knows the military makes wild promises to new recruits that are not kept. If we cannot hold them accountable with satire, where are we in the land of free speech?

I am sorry if it offends you, truly. It is not meant to offend as I have great respect for our troops and I thank them for serving our country. However, I am anti-war and I hate that we send them out to kill and be killed.

[11Pecepebra]

I agree, the stat eof the union is deplorable--and that women is a representative of just how bad it has become. She is no better than Bush is. Any person capable of truly independent thought can see how extreme both sides are in their choice of words, behavior, and overall intolerance towards dissenting opinions.

For you or anyone else to act like you are being persecuted is beyond dumb. You have no comprehension of what oppression is.

Maybe the author should catch a little of the recent news out of Iran.
Tehran, Iran, Jan. 07 – An Iranian court has sentenced a teenage rape victim to death by hanging after she weepingly confessed that she had unintentionally killed a man who had tried to rape both her and her niece.

http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/new...p?storyid=5183

[Dreaming]

My sister is a Major in the Air Force. My Uncle a retired Captain in the Navy. My Dad was in the Army. I have nothing against the military. The sticker is irony. The sticker is satire for the ads the military runs to get people to join. Everyone knows the military makes wild promises to new recruits that are not kept. If we cannot hold them accountable with satire, where are we in the land of free speech?

I am sorry if it offends you, truly. It is not meant to offend as I have great respect for our troops and I thank them for serving our country. However, I am anti-war and I hate that we send them out to kill and be killed.

That's cool. I am just tired of the mindless military bashing that goes on because of some dumb polcy decisions made by our government.

I hate the fact that we send them to fight unnecessary wars and that a military is even necessary. Man, humankind sucks.

I wish Lennon's "Imagine" was a realistic goal.

[pBiRXp8u]

antipartisan I wholeheartedly and completely agree.

:handshake:

[RjkVwPcV]

Entered her house and tried to poison her cats? hmmm sounds fishy.

My bumper stickers say: (well actually magnets, I don't want to mess up my new cute little Honda Civic with stickers)

Coexist (like my sig, click on it)
Join the Army, travel to exotic distant lands, meet exciting unusual people, and kill them
A W in a circle with a slash
Well behaved women seldom make history
Peace and Equality are moral values
More trees less Bush

So you think they might be knocking on my door?

I have a lawyer lined up already LOL!

I think the title of the article is misleading. From the article text Susan Elme ... recently has been tailed and harassed by government agents for displaying anti-administration bumper stickers on her car and trying to organize 9/11 truth rallies at local libraries. She was probably targeted for harassment because:

1) She was organizing a real-world group and not just one that discussed issues on the internet. Real world groups possess a much greater potential for taking action rather than just talking, and members are more likely and better able to help one another if any become a target for secret government harassment. Once a real world gets going it is a lot harder to shut it down. Also it is a lot more work to keep track of what its doing. Federal agents have to place physical bugs and/or infiltrate, whereas activity of a virtual group can be tracked by automatic internet wiretapping.

2) In her activity she was disputing the official version of 9/11. 9/11 truth is usually a code-word for advocating the theory that the US government either intentionally allowed terrorists to take down the WTC, or that the US government took the WTC down itself via controlled demolition. See thread on this at http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/foru...ad.php?t=25689 .

You find it hard to believe federal agents (or others working for them) broke into Susan Elme's apartment? The Church Committee reports into the FBI COINTELPRO program states: From 1940 to 1973, the CIA and the FBI engaged in twelve covert mail opening programs in violation of Sections 1701-1703 of Title 18 of the United States Code which prohibit the obstruction, interception, or opening of mail. Both of these agencies also engaged in warrantless "surreptitious entries" -- break-ins -- against American citizens within the United States in apparent violation of state laws prohibiting trespass and burglary.
from http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/cointe...reportIIca.htm

[encunnibriG]

...She was probably targeted for harassment because:.

Sheer speculation.

[hrotedk]

From 1940 to 1973, the CIA and the FBI engaged in twelve covert mail opening programs in violation of Sections 1701-1703 of Title 18 of the United States Code which prohibit the obstruction, interception, or opening of mail. Both of these agencies also engaged in warrantless "surreptitious entries" -- break-ins -- against American citizens within the United States in apparent violation of state laws prohibiting trespass and burglary.
from http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/cointe...reportIIca.htm

How can THAT be??? It's not possible. It was before Bush!

[indentKew]

Here is what I cant seem to understand. You have people on this board that state the government is trying to silence them about 9/11. Does anybody else see the humor in this???

They are online on a public forum plus how many websites posting their opinions. Now I also know that there are only a few main backbone providers that provide connections to the backbone. Also, everybody has an IP address which is traceable if you know how to read it. The connection to your home provided by the ISP is logged, even if it is DHCP (Dynamic Host Control Protocol) which is a random IP address within a specific range, there still is a log of who has which IP address assigned. Each ISP is given a specific range of IP's they can hand out, and that is also logged. My point is, if the gov really wanted to find you they could thru IP addressing even if you hide behind a router and firewall and use NAT, PAT, or private addressing.

If these people are sooooo scared the govt is trying to shut them up, why do they advertise where they are?

[brulpcoersero]

"It's gone beyond spying. They even entered my house and tried to poison my cats."

LOL, awesome!

So they just tried to poison her cats? They didn't succeed? The cats managed to outsmart them? Did she foil this nefarious plot while testing her cat food for poison? They broke into the house and instead of just clubbing the cats over the head, suffocating them, injecting them with poison, or using some other method that would send a much clearer signal, they just attempted to poison them?

FBI Tactic #452: Break into house of dissenter, place arsenic in cat food. Leave.

[lollypop]

Here is what I cant seem to understand. You have people on this board that state the government is trying to silence them about 9/11.
(...*SNIP*...)
If these people are sooooo scared the govt is trying to shut them up, why do they advertise where they are?

Striker as long as those posting about the truth on 9/11 (or other sensitive subjects) do so in a context where it appears they are a marginal, fringe minority, the object of the contempt and disdain of the "normal" majority, the federal agents of repression and censorship are not worried.

However, if it ever happens that there is a coherent majority on a discussion board, or even a single thread ... or in a real-world group that meets in local libraries, as Susan Elme was trying to do, they will act to shut the discussion down. See my previous post on this thread http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/foru...9&postcount=13 .

See my post on another discussion board about secret technology used to torture, maim and murder Americans who try to alert others: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bb...age=&showdate=

[Pwy9egVW]

Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition....I guess the name fits LOL!

The truth is bad enough. Why the need to make it into fantasy?

[Lunims]

Greetings and Felicitations,

Join the Army, travel to exotic distant lands, meet exciting unusual people, and kill them

I must take offense at the Army sticker

I think it funny that you should take offense at this particular sticker. The original source of this saying was military t-shirts.

Another of my other favorites is:

Visit Lebanon. Help a Muslim meet Allah. Hey I just stepped in some Shiite.

You used to be able to get alot of shirts like this.

Sincerely Yours,
C. David Neely