[Toossehew]

The "poverty line" is just a measure of how many luxuries one has. No one in America truly lives in poverty, which can be seen in Africa.

So how many generations will you accept before you say "Enough"?

Poverty is being without esential goods and services. If you feel comparing an American family to a family in Africa is the same thing then your dead wrong. The US does not need people living in the streets begging for food as you will eventually be paying for them on the backend when their in prison.

And yes, some people get welfare their entire lives, and their mothers and children, too Last time you read anything about welfare was 10 years ago then because it's 5 years maximum lifetime per recepient since 1996.

[Alkassyinhisk]

Poverty is being without esential goods and services.

Of which no American need be without.

If you feel comparing an American family to a family in Africa is the same thing then your dead wrong. The US does not need people living in the streets begging for food as you will eventually be paying for them on the backend when their in prison.

WOW! You really think that living on the street, begging for food is a guaranteed trip to prison? Quite a nasty generalization. Once again, no one HAS to be there.

Last time you read anything about welfare was 10 years ago then because it's 5 years maximum lifetime per recepient since 1996.

Au Contraire Mon Ami. Katrina exposed the lie of THAT.

[Styparty]

WOW! You really think that living on the street, begging for food is a guaranteed trip to prison? Quite a nasty generalization. Once again, no one HAS to be there. People are not going to stop eating. Evenutally, the will resort to crime if they have no means of getting food.

Au Contraire Mon Ami. Katrina exposed the lie of THAT.[/ That's not welfare. That's is federal financial aid from a natural disaster.
Katrina set records in property and economic damage across multiple states.

Starving people and making them live in a cardboard box is not going to motivate them. If it did they never would've started welfare in the first place during the Great Depression.

[SoftrermaBioniaSat]

People are not going to stop eating. Evenutally, the will resort to crime if they have no means of getting food.

Food will always be available. No one will EVER starve on the streets of America. You bring up a fantasy and a strawman arguement. It is not possible here, except by choice.

Starving people and making them live in a cardboard box is not going to motivate them. If it did they never would've started welfare in the first place during the Great Depression.

Welfare was a simple vote-buying scheme from our dear ultra-liberal friend Lyndon Johnson. All of the negative effects were foretold back in '63.

Whatever you subsidize, you get more of. It's really very simple. If you pay people to not go to work, they won't. If you pay them more to have babies, they'll have babies. The outcome of all this was perfectly obvious right at the beginning. Illegitimacy, crime and the destruction of the family were built into welfare.

[Oriesssedleli419]

[QUOTE=Spadplanter] Food will always be available. No one will EVER starve on the streets of America. You bring up a fantasy and a strawman arguement. It is not possible here, except by choice. Welfare is financial assitance for people that can't support themselves. That includes food.


Welfare was a simple vote-buying scheme from our dear ultra-liberal friend Lyndon Johnson. All of the negative effects were foretold back in '63. Wrong. It's been around since the Great Depression under many names.

Whatever you subsidize, you get more of. It's really very simple. If you pay people to not go to work, they won't. If you pay them more to have babies, they'll have babies. The outcome of all this was perfectly obvious right at the beginning. Illegitimacy, crime and the destruction of the family were built into welfare. Exactly why they set a maximum on it. Your 10 years too late for this complaint.

[Mehntswx]

Wrong. It's been around since the Great Depression under many names.

It used to be called "Relief" and was a stigma to be on.

Exactly why they set a maximum on it. Your 10 years too late for this complaint.

It's up to the states now, and 5 years is NOT the limit. Witness NOLA. It was still a career down there.

[venediene]

[QUOTE=Spadplanter] It used to be called "Relief" and was a stigma to be on. You say potato. It's still Welfare under a different name and it's still a stigma to be on it where I live (US).

Witness NOLA. It was still a career down there. Yes, we must get the Niggers off welfare. Right?

[bahrains27]

[QUOTE=biggyg2]

You say potato. It's still Welfare under a different name and it's still a stigma to be on it where I live (US).


Yes, we must get the Niggers off welfare. Right?

I'm terribly sorry that you had to bring race into this. That was not the intention, but Liberals like to play the race card as a defense when the arguement fails. Now that you've tainted the discussion with racial prejudice, I find that it can't go anywhere without becoming a racial issue. That is not where it started and is not where is should have gone, but you chose to take it there. It's a pity, but I should have known that you would do this.

[Amoniustauns]

I'm terribly sorry that you had to bring race into this. That was not the intention, but Liberals like to play the race card as a defense when the arguement fails. Now that you've tainted the discussion with racial prejudice, I find that it can't go anywhere without becoming a racial issue. That is not where it started and is not where is should have gone, but you chose to take it there. It's a pity, but I should have known that you would do this.

Your weak and shallow.

Everytime you bitch and cry about welfare, and you do it alot, you mention the most heavily populated black areas as examples.

It's ok. Nothing wrong with admitting that you wish the country would not baby the black community. You mention NOLA, LBJ, having a bunch of kids, etc.

I'm saying what you avoid admitting. Then when someone calls you out all the sudden your offended and put your head back in your shell.

Fucking weak.

[majestictwelve]

Actually, I have much more immediate experience with the white-trash cheaters and freeloaders around here. You're the one, like most liberals, that tosses race into everything.

[xgnuwdd]

Actually, I have much more immediate experience with the white-trash cheaters and freeloaders around here. You're the one, like most liberals, that tosses race into everything.

You done nothing but cry about Katrina and New Orleans throughout this thread. New Orleans is around 70% black, as you very well know.

Don't look now but race is what you continue making it.

[cookiemonster]

You done nothing but cry about Katrina and New Orleans throughout this thread. New Orleans is around 70% black, as you very well know.

Don't look now but race is what you continue making it.

I'm not the one that made it a race issue from the get-go. The Superdome, the bridge, welfare, FEMA, slow responses, were ALL made into racial issues right away and it was all done by you liberals. Just go back and look at the thread titles and who started them. It's obvious that the racists are the ones that turned this fiasco into a race issue, the liberals.