[PoideAdelereX]

12/06/05

Democrats of late, are in total dis-array over their war plans on Iraq. Many fear a political back-lash over the recent rhetoric of "Bush misleading Americans into the invasion of Iraq," & are starting to get very nervous over it. Bush & the administration started firing back on this rhetoric a few weeks ago, & approval ratings of President Bush have inched up. Therefore, we have not recently heard any more talk of this from Democrats.

Then we had Representative Murtha make his bold announcement that we should withdraw American troops "immediately." Henceforth, raising the white flag & surrendering to terrorists. As of today, Murtha, Nancy Pelosi, & senate minority leader Reid are all for Murtha's plan. Murtha introduced this great military strategy in length today. We are to re-deploy some troops to Kuwait, & others to OKINAWA, JAPAN!!!Okinawa, Japan is in the Pacific, & is several thousand miles away from Iraq. Then, he states that if Iraq needs us, we can "re-deploy" American troops back into Iraq?? This is the "BRILLIANT" military strategy of the democrat party.

Of course, others like Howard Dean are stating we can't win the war, along with 68% of the liberal media in this country. John Kerry referring to American troops as terrorists in a statement he made on Sunday. "U.S. troops breaking down doors in the middle of the night are "terrorising" Iraqi women & children." In order to keep American troops SAFE, we need to rachet down the number of them NOW. "I think most Americans do not consider joining the U.S. military, a carreer opportunity for personal safety & comfort???"

Other democrats fearing a backlash of looking like they are not supporting our troops, due to the above statements made by the above aforementioned have started to break ranks with the leaders & vocal members of their party.

These democrats are sitting on the side lines. It's kind of like watching a football game, & whomever is winning, being capable of running in & jumping in on the winning side, at the last second, & then taking credit for the win.

Only ONE democrat has spoken out in favor of what we're presently doing. He is called the ghost of the democrat party. He is Joe Lieberman, who has visited Iraq on numerous occasions. Stating that there is notable good change, every time he goes. He feels we need to continue what we're doing, & he believes that we are winning the war in Iraq, & on terror. Of course, his statements were completely ignored by his party.

It just goes to show that no one can trust Democrats to actually "lead" this country. They are followers of the public opinion polls & stand for nothing more. "Which ever the way the wind blows, they go."

[dumadegg]

Democrats of late, are in total dis-array over their war plans on Iraq. Many fear a political back-lash over the recent rhetoric of "Bush misleading Americans into the invasion of Iraq," & are starting to get very nervous over it. Bush & the administration started firing back on this rhetoric a few weeks ago, & approval ratings of President Bush have inched up. Apparently the "rhetoric" has been convincing?

For the first time, a majority of Americans, 51%, say the Bush administration deliberately misled the public about whether Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction — the reason Bush emphasized in making the case for invading. The administration's credibility on the issue has been steadily eroding since 2003.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...ing-iraq_x.htm

[SNUfR8uI]

Frankly the fact that the Dems might be in disarray is less worrisome to me than the fact that those actually responsible for the war and responsible for fighting it, you know the current occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and his cohorts, seem to have less of a clue. All we ever hear from them is we will fight until we achieve victory. The man, um excuse me gaddy Great Leader, is like a album when the needle is stuck in a scratch, for those of you too young to know what it sounds like just play anyone of Bush's speeches on the war in quick succession one right after the other and you will get the idea.

[searkibia]

Yup, all insults, all whining, all finger-pointing, all smearing, all complaining, but NO PLAN. The Dems are still stuck on the "anybody but Bush" mentality.

If you Dems want to ever be taken seriously, give up the finger-pointing and whining and PROPOSE SOMETHING. Is that really so hard to understand?

[2swasseneons]

Yup, all insults, all whining, all finger-pointing, all smearing, all complaining, but NO PLAN. The Dems are still stuck on the "anybody but Bush" mentality.

If you Dems want to ever be taken seriously, give up the finger-pointing and whining and PROPOSE SOMETHING. Is that really so hard to understand?

Why should they? One good finger pointing from one side deserves a return from the other side.

[Timoxari]

I believe it's O.K. to critize, "as long as you have a plan", to WIN. No matter how any democrat wants to spin it, ultimately, the only plan they have is to surrender to terrorists by "cutting & running". They have no plan to WIN.

Just retreat & defeat.

[Kinds Of Pain Meds]

I don't disagree with the fact that they have no viable plan, the problem is the Administration doesn't really either.

[didrexx]

I believe it's O.K. to critize, "as long as you have a plan", to WIN. No matter how any democrat wants to spin it, ultimately, the only plan they have is to surrender to terrorists by "cutting & running". They have no plan to WIN.

Just retreat & defeat.

I thought we already won. Mission accomplished?

In any case, how do you "win" against terrorists? Do you have to kill every last one of them? How is that possible? Aren't new terrorists appearing all the time? Is there a country for which all terrorists fight? Do we capture the capitol of that country to get this elusive "Terrorists" faction to surrender? And why is cutting your losses such a terrible and unacceptable thing to do?

[justashonglefan]

I thought we already won. Mission accomplished?

In any case, how do you "win" against terrorists? Do you have to kill every last one of them? How is that possible? Aren't new terrorists appearing all the time? Is there a country for which all terrorists fight? Do we capture the capitol of that country to get this elusive "Terrorists" faction to surrender? And why is cutting your losses such a terrible and unacceptable thing to do?

Yeh. Bush said we won (on a carrier with one of the first of his captive audiences.)

You are right regarding terrorists, which is why I was and am in general agreement with Murtha's original request. The longer we stay. the more casualties we will have, WITH ABSOLUTELY "NO" APPRECIABLE RESULT> (just a delaying action)