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Aagotiq 02-10-2006 10:50 PM

9/11 WTC controlled demolition, terrorists in Bush Admin
 
Dr. Steven Jones, physics professor at BYU, has published a paper at http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html questioning the official theory of why WTC towers fell on 9/11. He makes the case that the official explanation (weakening of steel structure due to heat) does not explain the following facts:

1. Explosions occuring on sides of building, far below where levels are collapsing and before there began to be a collaps, in video footage.
2. The presence of large quantities of molten steel in the debris, when burning jet fuel cannot melt steel.
3. Never has a building collapsed into its own footprint except thru controlled demolition. Buildings which collapse in earthquakes have fallen to the side.
4. Dip in the top of WTC 7 when it collapsed characteristic of controlled demolition.
5. Buildings fell at nearly the same rate as free-fall, which would be impossible unless supporting structure underneath had first been demolished.
6. Never before has a steel frame building collapsed solely due to fire, as WTC 7 did, and the other two apparently as well since the plane collisions themselves did not appear to cause collapse.

Controlled deomlition better fits the available observations of the fall. Viewing the video footage, the way the WTC towers fell certainly looks exactly like footage from controlled demolitions of large buildings.

Here is an interesting account of a lecture Dr. Jones gave on his investigation at Utah Valley State College: " BYU’s Dr. Steven Jones Blows the Roof off a Utah Auditorium" at http://mujca.com/jonesphysics.htm .

grudabor 02-10-2006 11:05 PM

Oh, no, not this shit again.

Matt

enfoires 02-11-2006 12:19 AM

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Oh, no, not this shit again.

Matt
They just love these conspiracy theories! Don't we have threads on this already?!!!

Brainpole 02-11-2006 12:27 AM

None, though, from someone who has actually worn a tinfoil suit.

Until now.

http://www.geocities.com/mrmistermic...tmt/page18.htm

Matt

unsamiSlini 02-11-2006 12:57 AM

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Oh, no, not this shit again.

Matt
Hey, this isn't nearly as bad as the huge blog-o-thread some guy has going on here, with conspiracy theories about government attacking him from every possible direction.

tpJKhY8Z 02-11-2006 01:37 AM

Isn't it against the rules to have multiple accounts?

ffooobar, meet someone I can't mention. http://www.uspoliticsonline.net/imag...es/biggrin.gif

SannyGlow 02-11-2006 02:45 AM

Frightening the way these psyop disinformation agents stay on public discussion boards while truth posters disappear one after another. What is happening to the truth posters? http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bb...age=&showdate=

Qutlsilh 02-11-2006 02:57 AM

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Frightening the way these psyop disinformation agents stay on public discussion boards while truth posters disappear one after another. What is happening to the truth posters? http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bb...age=&showdate=
This is just too funny!!!!!http://www.uspoliticsonline.net/images/smilies/lol.gif http://www.uspoliticsonline.net/images/smilies/lol.gif http://www.uspoliticsonline.net/images/smilies/lol.gif

Affolfembonge 02-11-2006 05:26 AM

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Frightening the way these psyop disinformation agents stay on public discussion boards while truth posters disappear one after another. What is happening to the truth posters?
We are taking you away to concentration camps because you resist the Bushco takeover of the world. We WILL prevail because we have petrodollars and you don't. Just accept the fact that we intend to enslave you proles and there is nothing you can do about it. You're too late. http://www.uspoliticsonline.net/imag...es/biggrin.gif

NutChusty 02-11-2006 09:21 PM

This is extensive research at BYU. Here's the video.

The powerpoint presentation is actually available on the net also and I'm doing my best to get my hands on this damning information.

Take note of serious people stating serious doubts on the government official story.

http://www.911podcasts.com/files/vid...eekers.org.wmv

This video is worth everyone's time and presents irrefutable evidence that we can't ignore.

Thunderzee 02-11-2006 10:35 PM

http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/foru...4&d=1112850816

SHpuntik 02-11-2006 11:31 PM

Reminds me of a certain type of clock...you know, the kind that goes COOCKOO COOCKOOhttp://www.uspoliticsonline.net/imag...001_tongue.gif

Tin Foil Hats - for the discriminating lunatic:
The Dapper is hard to beat when it comes to understated style. With a curved brim and wide band with genuine tin foil feather, it says "Goodbye hypnowaves, hello class!"

Alulursuifold 02-12-2006 01:07 AM

All you can think to do is ridicule.

As far as the educated people go, they will watch, understand, and make serious debate about serious science.

I know you don't have the fortitude to even attempt to take a serious look at it or even bring about intelligent debate.

But you see, you're just one of the hecklers outside the lecture hall, and many people find people like you irrational low-brow gents that allow emotions to get the best of them rather than get involved in intelligent debate.

You're on the outside of the lecture hall just chanting nonsense. Inside the lecture hall, people are getting involved in content of the issue at hand. I'll be inside there anytime rather than stand outside with you and just ridicule people that dare to investigate into it more in depth than what you are willing to do yourself.

You don't offend anyone getting serious about this, they're leaps and bounds far more intelligent and demand content and substance as you try to detract them from it by trying to ridicule a scientific approach to the 9/11 events. O'Reilly and the spin zone is about as far as your mind will allow you to go. Many people rely on their own intelligence and their own ability to decipher facts and plausibility, this is why so many people are questioning the offical government story.

untostaronaf 02-12-2006 02:02 AM

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know you don't have the fortitude...

But you see, you're just one of the hecklers ...

You're on the outside of the lecture hall just chanting nonsense. ...
There's a lot of personal insults there.

If you believe any of this tin hat nonsense, go ahead, but please stay inside the lecture hall with the conspiracy kooks. If you stay inside, we normal people will stay outside and everyone will be happy.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/

KLIMOV25gyi 02-12-2006 09:30 AM

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All you can think to do is ridicule.

As far as the educated people go, they will watch, understand, and make serious debate about serious science.

I know you don't have the fortitude to even attempt to take a serious look at it or even bring about intelligent debate.

But you see, you're just one of the hecklers outside the lecture hall, and many people find people like you irrational low-brow gents that allow emotions to get the best of them rather than get involved in intelligent debate.

You're on the outside of the lecture hall just chanting nonsense. Inside the lecture hall, people are getting involved in content of the issue at hand. I'll be inside there anytime rather than stand outside with you and just ridicule people that dare to investigate into it more in depth than what you are willing to do yourself.

You don't offend anyone getting serious about this, they're leaps and bounds far more intelligent and demand content and substance as you try to detract them from it by trying to ridicule a scientific approach to the 9/11 events. O'Reilly and the spin zone is about as far as your mind will allow you to go. Many people rely on their own intelligence and their own ability to decipher facts and plausibility, this is why so many people are questioning the offical government story.
Dude, go read the links in the OP's signature. Seriously.

Then come back and let us know what you think.

Matt

Qnnoshxj 02-12-2006 11:29 AM

If it was blown up, what about the planes?

Did they not fly into the buildings, if not, what happened to them?

Are all those people that were on the planes alive?

Cigarsstoreonline 02-12-2006 11:31 AM

Get off your high horse about discussion.

If you were their that day you knew what happened.

Would you rather the buildings tumbled? Killing thousands more? The reason you are being made fun of is because your moronic claims have been rebuked over and over. Yet you still want to discuss it.

Appeselve 02-12-2006 03:22 PM

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If it was blown up, what about the planes?

Did they not fly into the buildings, if not, what happened to them?

Are all those people that were on the planes alive?
In a nut shell, there are two theories.

1. That the Government knew of the actual plot, and in keeping with their desire to start a war, planted the bombs to coincide with the planes ----to be certain the job was done.

2. That Isreal was behind it, and planted the bombs to coincide-------

No one is doubting the planes were involved.

GEAntonio 02-12-2006 03:43 PM

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In a nut shell, there are two theories.
An apt description if ever I saw one.

Matt

sleepergun 02-12-2006 03:57 PM

Matt! I don't think anyone else on this site makes me laugh as many times as you. Well done! http://www.uspoliticsonline.net/imag...es/biggrin.gif

And about the bombs...maybe the hijackers had bombs on the planes? Remember 93, the one that crashed into the ground in Pennsylvania. The one that my friend's best friend was on. From Flight 93, Mark Bingham calls his mother and says, “I'm on a flight from Newark to San Francisco and there are three guys who have taken over the plane and they say they have a bomb.” [Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, 10/28/01 (B)] In an alternate version, he says, “I'm in the air, I'm calling you on the Airfone. I'm calling you from the plane. We've been taken over. There are three men that say they have a bomb.” [Boston Globe, 11/23/01; Toronto Sun, 9/16/01] http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/t...rk_bingham.jpg
Mark Bingham

These were the guys that said let's roll and ambushed the fuckers. These are our American heros.

(9:32 a.m.): Flight 93 Hijacker Tells Passengers Bomb Is Onboard; Flight Controllers Overhear
A hijacker says over the radio to Flight 93's passengers: “Ladies and gentlemen, here is the captain, please sit down. Keep remaining sitting. We have a bomb aboard.” Apparently, Cleveland flight controllers can understand about a minute of screams, before a voice again says something about a “bomb on board.” A hijacker says in broken English that they are returning to the airport. [MSNBC, 9/3/02; Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, 10/28/01; Newsweek, 9/22/01] According to the 9/11 Commission's account, the hijacker's voice says, “Keep remaining sitting. We have a bomb on board.” The controller understands, but chooses to respond, “Calling Cleveland [flight control], you're unreadable. Say again, slowly.” Apparently there's no answer. The controller notifies his supervisor, who soon passes the notice to FAA headquarters. [9/11 Commission Report, 6/17/04]


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