[Borrinas]

The kind of guy like Gore who doesn't stand up for corporations but for regular people.

I want a President for all of America, not one who will take sides.

[Tuqofiw]

Hillary Clinton is where my money is in 2008. The one true option if the Democrats want to win.

[Futfwrca]

Independant (conservative)

I picked Rice, McCain and Other.

Rice, because I think she is smart enough to do a good job - though I know very little about her personal veiws. That would be defined in a primary campaign.

McCain, because even though I think he's a public oppinion slut I think his core is conservative and I think he'll at least not destroy the country. If the Repubs choose him, I'll go with it.

Other, because we don't really know who the hot topics are going to be until the primary races start. Clinton was a nobody until he started winning primaries. GW essentially stole the candidacy from McCain in the 2000 primary. I can only hope that some new blood joins the pathetic list we are faced with here.

[Txaizdxx]

Hillary Clinton is where my money is in 2008. The one true option if the Democrats want to win.

I'll donate as well. I'd love to see her spanked by the American voters.

[vesiasmepay]

Hillary Clinton is where my money is in 2008. The one true option if the Democrats want to win.

You're funny!

[Rememavotscam]

So don't post. Nobody's forcing you. I just want to know who is interesting.

So you can have all the fun!

The point I am making is that discussing who is possibly running now and who we want for president is similar to "when I grow up" questions we talked about when we were kids. And dreaming about it is not going to do one damn thing about who will actually run when the time comes. A lot of things can happen between now and then.

[HedgeYourBets]

Independent

Other

Warner, perhaps.

Any Middle of the Road Republican or Dem would be fine.

No Liberals. No Conservatives. No Libertarians. No NeoCons.

No Candidates.

Mike

[bumxumer]

I'm SOOOOOOOOOO sorry you don't like my poll. I noticed that you have retaliated, But I don't particular like your's either.

I included people that posters were talking about, not everyone who was coming out of the woodwork. I should have expected this. As soon as one poster starts a thread on an otherwise new subject, Everybody jumps on with "Original" (near duplicate)threads of their own -- rather than post on the original thread. "NO PROB" My purpose is being served, even if you don't know my purpose for posting it.

Don't even worry 'bout it.


It doesn't matter HOW fair and balanced you make your "poll" here.


SOME jackass is gonna get heartburn from it.


Why most of us don't even BOTHER with "polls" here.



Waste of time.



100 % waste of time.

[TeftyJokip]

I said before that I liked Al Gore. If he took a run at it, he'd be the same age Nixon was when he ran for president, 8 years after a close loss. Gore would benefit this time from playing the outsider who can say whatever he wants, and people like that a whole lot better than they like some senator talking at them. Adaher commented that he didn't like Gore because he wouldn't represent "all" Americans. Well, he did it for 8 years and was one of the best and busiest VP's. In his time in the White House, the economy did amazing and America was more respected around the world than at anytime under Bush.

[Lxbsvksl]

I don't think I said that. Are you sure?

I don't like Gore because I'm not sure who he is. Is he the conservative who ran in 1988? Is he the Clintonian Democrat who was part of one of the most successful administrations in history? Is he the populist who ran in 2000, promising to "fight for you"? Or is he the arch-leftist who has been mouthing off since 2001?

I've never seen a man go through so many evolutions in such a short period. I can deal with one, many normal people change certain views and sometimes their whole worldview at some point.

I've got an open mind for Gore, but I want to see the man who was one of the best VPs we've ever had, not some weird liberal doppleganger. I keep expecting him to pull his mask off and find that it was Ralph Nader the whole time.

[Unonounaple]

America was more respected around the world than at anytime under Bush

That's an awfully relative term there. Anti-Americanism has been ubiquitous in many parts of the world as long as I can remember. Always spiking when we are in confrontations with dictators(such as Iraq and Kosovo and before that, the Soviet Union). I remember right after the Kosovo War Clinton's appearance in Greece spawned riots.

I stopped caring what the world thought long before Bush came into office, because the world doesn't deal in good faith. International relations isn't about feel good ideals, it's about power, economics, and culture. If your interests align with other nations, they like you for as long as you are useful to them(and they useful to you). Once it is to a nation's advantage to demonize you, or us to demonize them, it's just done, regardless of what has been done for each other before. There are only three nations that I really care about, who we have a long, truly heartfelt relationship with: Britain, Canada, and Australia. Everyone else is only friends with us while it is useful to them, and I take their opinions as expressions of their narrow national interests, nothing more.

[Foucceedo]

Nations dislike the United States for the wrong reasons. An average European would just say they dont like the United States because we are fat and violent. Besides Iraq, the world as a whole doenst really have a stance on that many US policies. You never hear France complimenting the US for job growth or anything.

But anyhow, if I was from outside of the US, there would be one thing that really bugged me (it bugs me alot now, and i live in the US.) Our "elections." Im sure that this topic has been discussed alot on these forums, but I would just like to list some interesting facts from the 2000 "election."

-Katherine Harris was in charge of the election in Florida. She also ran Bush's campaign in Florida. Jeb Bush, the president's brother, was governor of Florida.
-57,000 voters were deleted from Florida's vote registry. 9/10 of the voters were black. Gore got 93% of the African American vote nationally. A republican company was paid to compile the list of convicted felons, that weren supposed to be allowed to vote. One person, Thomas Cooper, was listed as having committed a crime on January, 30, 2007.
-In Texas, three republican candidates for a town government won by exactly 18,111 votes each. What a coincidence!

I could go on forever. But my point is, other nations seem to focus on stereotypes that the US has to critisize instead of actual faults in our government.

Now, back on topic...I dont think that Hillary Clinton would stand a chance in the 2008 elections.

As a side note: Bush disgusts me. He stole the 2000 election, no doubt. He is the only president ever to enter office with a criminal record. He is a rich boy who has had everything given to him. Bah I cant stand him.

[Ivanaishere]

2008?
Get real, most Americans don't even start paying attention to the elections until after labor day 2008.
This is so far away you may as well talk about sending man to mars.
Americans have a very short memory and even shorter attention span, so they will be voting on issues that are hot in October-November 2008 and not now.

[cigsstorenick]

2008?
Get real, most Americans don't even start paying attention to the elections until after labor day 2008.
This is so far away you may as well talk about sending man to mars.
Americans have a very short memory and even shorter attention span, so they will be voting on issues that are hot in October-November 2008 and not now.

So???? I only wanted to know what people were thinking now. That doesn't include you, cause obviously, you don't Think. You just speak.

[Gvadelunar]

Oh golly gee an insult from doniston. Wow. I feel so used.

A: I write on these forums, I never speak. You must be listening to Hannity again.

Shit man, if you don't know what every person on this forum thinks then you have not been reading their posts.

[AliceFromHouston]

Oh golly gee an insult from doniston. Wow. I feel so used.

A: I write on these forums, I never speak. You must be listening to Hannity again.
1. I have no idea who hannity is
2. Expressing you thoughts (if any) is a form of speach. If you don't beleive that, then you also do not "WRITE" on this forum Further,
3. Your words called for this response If you don't want me to respond, then don't respond to my posts.

Shit man, if you don't know what every person on this forum thinks then you have not been reading their posts.

I'm not a mind reader. ARE YOU????

[Vokbeelllicky]

Trying to discuss who we want for President in 2008 when the primaries have not even started off yet is WWWWAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY TTTTTTTOOOOOOO EEEEEAAAAARRRRRRLLLLLYYYYYYYYY. I am still trying to get over the headaches from the last election. At least I want a little peace of mind not to think who may or may not run when a million things could happen between now and the Iowa caucus hoopla.

I second that.