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^ These photos can give a false image that all is well for Christians in these countries. It is often not. Look into Ahmadinejad's Iran for starters.
Oh.... and those Churches in Cairo are particularly lovely: "While the Egyptian government does not have a policy to persecute Christians, it discriminates against them and hampers their freedom of worship. Its agencies sporadically persecute Muslim converts to Christianity. The government enforces Hamayouni Decree restrictions on building or repairing churches. These same restrictions, however, do not apply to mosques. "The government has effectively restricted Christians from senior government, diplomatic, military, and educational positions, and there has been increasing discrimination in the private sector. The government subsidizes media which attack Christianity and restricts Christians access to the state-controlled media." "In Egypt the government does not officially recognize conversions from Islam to Christianity; because certain interfaith marriages are not allowed either, this prevents marriages between converts to Christianity and those born in Christian communities, and also results in the children of Christian converts being classified as Muslims and given a Muslim education. The government also applies religiously-discriminatory laws and practices concerning clergy salaries." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians -- |
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Viva ZUPERMAUS !!!, oOOOoooleeee!!!, oOOOOoooleeee !!! Yes, I Know about these churchs. I've written about of many churchs in Muslim countries in WNY-F, in the thread of "Religious Architecture". But now the question is different to me: we are talking about Marseille and the problems of muslims in the Southern of Europe. I think MidtownGuy don't know what he says, because he's the tipycal american boy that talk about this problems without intelligence. For example, this is the latest project to build a Great Mosque in Spain. It has a tiny minaret of 330 meters high,... you Know: a small store with a dirty chimney, isn't it?,... because Spaniards (we are Europeans, aren't we?...) are most racists (maybe not multiculturals) than americans,... like says the "unforgettable" MidtownGuy. http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/r...70/mosque1.jpg http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/r...70/mosque2.jpg |
http://www.e-architect.co.uk/london/...y_mills_77.jpg http://www.altmuslim.com/ee_images/a...que_london.jpg
^yep, London's also doing something major - currently in plans to build the 'Mega Mosque' for 40,000, and capacity up to 70,000 with surrounding buildings during religious festivals. Its right next to the Olympic site, and the new CBD at Stratford. Its controversial of course, not just the fact it will supplant all the major cathedrals as the religious centre of the city, but mostly due to the increased volume of traffic/ people etc in the area (many of the areas residents, many of whom are Muslim, are against it due to this). Of course a mega-cathedral is also in the plans for the mostly Anglican African community, so this too may be supplanted in turn. |
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The Spanish when the City Council tells them in his district wants to build a mosque, they do not want it because they know that then the district could become a Muslim ghetto. It's a eternal problem. |
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In London its not so much a problem as its very hard to build any kind of 'ghetto' due to vertiginous house prices and speculating (not for want of trying Im sure Londoners would create them if given half a chance), and traditional mixing of income types in housing - to this day all new developments, even the luxury ones have by law to devote 30-50% of itself to affordable homes. Meanwhile poor rundown areas are now being colonised by the middle classes unable to afford the rip-off prices demanded for in the city.
Also the Muslims in London have relatively low crime rates, even though some are very poor- some areas of the city such as Brick Lane and Whitechapel are some of the poorest, but adversely some of the safest. The word on the street for property buyers keen to get on the ladder is to try and move into areas mixed with traditional Muslim or West African communities, as the prices are cheap and the crime is low - the kind of areas attracting artists and creatives, and thus regeneration. Neighbourhoods such as Whitechapel, Hoxton (both with large Bangladeshi and Somali communities), Deptford (West African), Hackney (West African), Dalston (Turkish, Kurdish), are all now the coolest areas in the capital. Nb In cairo its also a phenomenon, the Old City, Islamic Cairo is one of the worlds poorest areas, yet strangely one of the safest. Urbanists studying the phenomenon point toward the proximity of housing (any crime will almost always have a witness), combined with traditional values. A plan to build a new park nearby has even led to calls that this will increase the crime rate as it will open up the area. ...anyway Im a bit off track again, back to topic... |
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