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Old 11-06-2009, 04:50 PM   #21
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Don't miss this Jon Stewart parody of Glenn Beck. Instant classic!
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Old 11-06-2009, 04:55 PM   #22
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That ^ really got me laughing last night.

Skewered to perfection.
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Old 11-21-2009, 10:48 PM   #23
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Sh!t happens ... the Lord works in mysterious ways ...

Victim In Fatal Car Accident Tragically Not Glenn Beck
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Old 11-23-2009, 06:21 AM   #24
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Ironically, I think the success of the Fox phenomena can be traced to NY talk radio of the 1970s and 1980s including WMCA's (later WABC and WOR) Bob Grant -- the original Angry White Man -- and shock jocks like Don Imus and Howard Stern.
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Old 12-13-2009, 03:59 AM   #25
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^^ How about a separate thread (or perhaps one already exists?) for the gun story? This is "The Hate Watch" which I understand to be about malicious and irresponsible political speech. Yeah, I get that a connection to gun culture is possible, but gun control/the Second Amendment has larger implications, and there's plenty to be said about the likes of Fox News and radio hate show hosts, etc.
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Old 12-13-2009, 04:05 AM   #26
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We have an existing thread on Gun Control & the Second Amendment.

I'll move the posts. They fit better there.
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Old 12-13-2009, 04:19 AM   #27
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Thank you, Mr. Moderator. I should have done a search before I suggested that.
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Old 12-13-2009, 06:59 PM   #28
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I see the point, but Cramer is something else.

We are seeing some high profile people with platforms that reach millions seeming to lay the groundwork for the assination the President of the United States. Let's not mince words. That is the point of the Rich article. He sums it up with: "This kind of rhetoric, with its pseudo-Scriptural call to action, is toxic. It is getting louder each day of the Obama presidency. No one, not even Fox News viewers, can say they weren’t warned."

If something like that were to happen I think the US would be in real danger of dissolving. They are really playing with fire here.

I don't really know what the climate is in the US, I don't live there. It's easy for me to pull out an article or 2 on the subject... but things are exaggerated all the time... journalists need fodder for articles and editorials.

I watched Fox all during the elections and for a while was convinced that Obama could never win. I was happy to be proven wrong. So what's the deal with this hate mongering.... do you all think it's really having an effect on the crazies?
And what do you think CNN, CBS, MSNBC, NY Times, etc. are? For too many years only the far left has had a voice, enough was enough.

Over 75% of the country considers themselves to be conservative, and the majority needed a counterbalance to the massive liberalism of the media.
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Old 12-13-2009, 07:04 PM   #29
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Fox is NOT a conservative voice... at least not as the US once knew conservatism.

Fox depends on the use of lies, distortions and sensationalism to make it's points.

Bad reporting does NOT offer a counterbalance. Who does someone like Glenn Beck balance out?
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Old 12-13-2009, 07:11 PM   #30
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Fox is NOT a conservative voice... at least not as the US once knew conservatism.

Fox depends on the use of lies, distortions and sensationalism to make it's points.

Bad reporting does NOT offer a counterbalance. Who does someone like Glenn Beck balance out?
He balances out garbage like Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow, 2 of the least watchable people on television, they are just so f--king awful i cannot stomach them.
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Old 12-13-2009, 07:16 PM   #31
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"....massive liberalism of the media." ???

Fox is one of the most watched news sources... beating the competition in many time slots.

Talk Radio is mostly conservative. Make that mostly odd-ball conservative.

No one has media-star commentators like the extreme right does: Rush, Coulter, Ingraham, Savage, Mark Levin, Hannity, O'Reilly... etc. Equivalents on the left? With that kind of star power?

The newspapers might be liberal.... but who reads them? Who reads the NYTimes... the average American? And have you seen the nose dive that newspaper readership has taken? And besides look at the figures: the top 3 ....USA Today, 2,113,725; The Wall Street Journal, 2,082,189 and The New York Times, 1,039,031.

USAToday is conservative, The WallStreetJournal is owned by FoxNews owner Rupert Murdock. The NYTimes is beaten by both by a wide magin.

The "massive liberalism" of the media is simply not true.

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Old 12-13-2009, 07:24 PM   #32
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"....massive liberalism of the media." ???

Fox is one of the most watched news sources... beating the competition in many time slots.

Talk Radio is mostly conservative. Make that mostly odd-ball conservative.

No one has media-star commentators like the extreme right does: Rush, Coulter, Ingraham, Savage, Mark Levin, Hannity, O'Reilly... etc. Equivalents on the left? With that kind of star power?

The newspapers might be liberal.... but who reads them? Who reads the NYTimes... the average American? And have you seen the nose dive that newspaper readership has taken? And besides look at the figures: the top 3 ....USA Today, 2,113,725; The Wall Street Journal, 2,082,189 and The New York Times, 1,039,031.

USAToday is conservative, The WallStreetJournal is owned by FoxNews owner Rupert Murdock. The NYTimes is beaten by both by a wide magin.

The "massive liberalism" of the media is simply not true.

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I wasn't referring to today, I was referring to up until about 15 - 25 years ago, when there was little cable TV, and the only place the public was able to get their news was from the major networks and NY Times. Those outlets were stifilingly liberal (Peter Jennings, Walter Cronkite, etc.)
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Old 12-13-2009, 07:25 PM   #33
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Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow... and Beck.

I watch all three. Rachel Maddow is truthful. Please point to one news story of hers based on lies. One.

Thanks.

Olbermann is abrasive... often difficult to watch... full of himself... but also VERY good at exposing the bull crap on the right.

If Fox had conservative commentators with the even-handed intelligence of Maddow... or the good investigating that Olberman has... I'd be the first to applaud.

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Old 12-13-2009, 07:27 PM   #34
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"Those outlets were stifilingly liberal (Peter Jennings, Walter Cronkite, etc.)"

But they were not crass liers speaking down to their audience.

Please tell us about Walter Conkite's lies....give us some examples.

The "Folks" at Fox would need a ladder to kiss his azz*.

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Old 12-13-2009, 07:34 PM   #35
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"I wasn't referring to today..."

Yeah, well this is today. The "massive liberalism" of the media is NOT true.
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Old 12-13-2009, 07:56 PM   #36
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And what do you think CNN, CBS, MSNBC, NY Times, etc. are? For too many years only the far left has had a voice, enough was enough.
In spite of all the far-right rhetoric over the years, mainstream American media can hardly be classified as liberal, not at least to the extent that ultra conservatives rail about it. Walter Cronkite liberal? Please. And even if he and other news anchors were personally liberal, the media platform in which they operated was middle of the road.

Look at the behavior of the supposedly liberal media leading into the Iraq war.

If you want to see ideological domination, consider talk radio. It is almost exclusively far right Conservative.

Over 75% of the country considers themselves to be conservative, and the majority needed a counterbalance to the massive liberalism of the media. Conservatism is a very broadbased concept in America. It means something different to people who would call themselves conservative. A sizable portion of the Democratic party consider themselves conservative.

I don't think that's the sort of Conservative (capital C) you're thinking of.
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Old 12-15-2009, 02:28 AM   #37
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Way to play into the false left/right dialectic of the Statist Establishment Media.

If Fox had conservative commentators with the even-handed intelligence of Maddow... or the good investigating that Olberman has... I'd be the first to applaud.
Judge Andrew Napolitano is good, but knee-jerkingly categorized as a hateful far right extremist for believing that the Constitution and each of the first ten amendments is worth respecting -- not to mention he guest hosts for *gasp* Glenn Beck!
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Old 12-15-2009, 03:08 AM   #38
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And what do you think CNN, CBS, MSNBC, NY Times, etc. are? For too many years only the far left has had a voice, enough was enough.

Over 75% of the country considers themselves to be conservative, and the majority needed a counterbalance to the massive liberalism of the media.
No, it hasn't been the far left. It is just that when the media shifts so far to the right and claims "center" the left seems even further off.


Amazing how, when you AVOID THE EDITORIAL, any publication that does not express a conservative opinion is "left".


BTW, "liberal" generally means more willing to accept another position. It generally does not mean "left". that has been a republican/Murdoch association they have worked hard to capitalize (both politically and monetarily) on.
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Old 12-24-2009, 04:10 PM   #39
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Lady Gaga has her new 8 minute video for Paparazzi.

It's a little mini-film. I like this lady ...
This guy thinks differently ...

Reverend Fred Phelps: 'God Hates Lady Gaga'

Huffington Post
December 23, 2009

The Reverend Fred Phelps hates fags (not to mention Jews), and Lady Gaga loves everything gay. So somehow by the transitive property, it makes sense that the Kansas pastor would declare that God hates Gaga.

Here's the Reverend's press release with info on where you can join him and the Wesboro Baptist Church to picket Gaga's concert on January 7:

"Thou hadst a whore's forehead, thou refusedst
to be ashamed...Will He reserve His anger for
ever? Will he keep it to the end? Behold, thou
hast spoken and done evil things as thou
couldest." Jer 3:3,5


"Art" and "fashion" are the euphemisms, the guise under which
proud whore Lady Gaga teaches rebellion against God (incidentally,
her claim to the title of "lady" is sound only if she tacks on "of the
night," thereby alluding to another euphemism of what she is.) As
much as she'd like to pretend otherwise, there's nothing new or
different about this particular hussy's pretentious prancing. Does the
simple slut truly think that she can change God's standards by
seducing a generation of rebels into joining her in fist-raised, stiff-
necked, hard-hearted rebellion against Him? Get real!

Even as she gives lip-service to "liberating" her young fans, Lady
Gaga brings them into slavery to their own corruption, teaching
them to glory in their shame. She hates you! "For when they speak
great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the
flesh, through much wantonness...While they promise them liberty,
they themselves are the servants of corruption.
" 2 Pet. 2:18-19


YOU'RE GOING TO HELL.
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Old 12-24-2009, 04:43 PM   #40
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A whore's forehead?

So Lady Gaga is what, a Klingon?

Hopefully, this jackass will be off the planet soon.
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