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Old 12-24-2009, 05:04 PM   #41
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I see the point, but Cramer is something else.

We are seeing some high profile people with platforms that reach millions seeming to lay the groundwork for the assination the President of the United States. Let's not mince words. That is the point of the Rich article. He sums it up with: "This kind of rhetoric, with its pseudo-Scriptural call to action, is toxic. It is getting louder each day of the Obama presidency. No one, not even Fox News viewers, can say they weren’t warned."

If something like that were to happen I think the US would be in real danger of dissolving. They are really playing with fire here.

I don't really know what the climate is in the US, I don't live there. It's easy for me to pull out an article or 2 on the subject... but things are exaggerated all the time... journalists need fodder for articles and editorials.

I watched Fox all during the elections and for a while was convinced that Obama could never win. I was happy to be proven wrong. So what's the deal with this hate mongering.... do you all think it's really having an effect on the crazies?
You must have been sleeping for the last 8 years with the hate from the left spewing against Bush...
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Old 12-24-2009, 05:07 PM   #42
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I didn't realize that I was required to criticize everything in order to be allowed to criticize anything.

Why don't you make a list of all of them, and I'll get back to you. Maybe.

Include that moron Murdock, who I think should be deported in a dingy.
It is called CONSISTENCY, and double standards. If you tolerated the vitriol from the left for the last 8 years - ever watch that dog Keith Olbermann? - then you are going have to accept it coming from the other side.

And IMO, while there is plenty of blame to go around, alot of it emanated from the left...
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Old 12-24-2009, 05:11 PM   #43
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No, it hasn't been the far left. It is just that when the media shifts so far to the right and claims "center" the left seems even further off.
Let me know what media outlets I listed above "shifted" right, I must have missed it since they seem little or no different than they did or 20 years ago.

BTW, "liberal" generally means more willing to accept another position. It generally does not mean "left". that has been a republican/Murdoch association they have worked hard to capitalize (both politically and monetarily) on. If you want to believe the nonsense that only conservatives can be closed-minded, then that's up to you...
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Old 12-24-2009, 05:16 PM   #44
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In spite of all the far-right rhetoric over the years, mainstream American media can hardly be classified as liberal, not at least to the extent that ultra conservatives rail about it. Walter Cronkite liberal? Please. And even if he and other news anchors were personally liberal, the media platform in which they operated was middle of the road.
You are generally so extremist in your views I don't generally read your posts, but this line was particularly hilarious...Dan Rather....Peter Jennings were centrist ? Are you joking?

Look at the behavior of the supposedly liberal media leading into the Iraq war. What does this mean? Only conservatives ever press for military engagements?

Funny how I didn't see too many on the left bitching that Clinton went into a bombing campaign in Serbia - and even better, with ZERO authorization from the UN...

I guess only republican presidents need to act "mulit-laterally".

Conservatism is a very broadbased concept in America. It means something different to people who would call themselves conservative. A sizable portion of the Democratic party consider themselves conservative. When the question posed is: do you support less government, lower taxes, less welfare - for both individuals and corporations, strong anti-trust enforcement, strong enforcement of all other laws, including WRT illegal aliens, you'll get 75% of the public or more.
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Old 12-24-2009, 05:18 PM   #45
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If Fox had conservative commentators with the even-handed intelligence of Maddow... or the good investigating that Olberman has... I'd be the first to applaud.
I'm working backwards, so I just got to this hilarious line. Yeah, she's real balanced...NOT.
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Old 12-24-2009, 07:57 PM   #46
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It is called CONSISTENCY, and double standards.
You completely missed my meaning in the post you quoted.

You are generally so extremist in your views I don't generally read your posts, but this line was particularly hilarious...Dan Rather....Peter Jennings were centrist ?
It's difficult to have a discussion with someone who either doesn't read or understand what you wrote. My statement was: And even if he and other news anchors were personally liberal, the media platform in which they operated was middle of the road. I''m sorry that I'm so extremist. Maybe I should emulate YOU..

What does this mean? Only conservatives ever press for military engagements? So I see. When the liberal media supports a cause proposed by a conservative president that's popular with conservatives - it's still the liberal media.

Funny how I didn't see too many on the left bitching that Clinton went into a bombing campaign in Serbia - and even better, with ZERO authorization from the UN. You're comparing Serbia with Iraq, both going in and coming out? Oh wait, we're not out of Iraq yet.
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Old 12-24-2009, 09:03 PM   #47
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*yawn*

Is this "conversation" worth having?
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Old 12-24-2009, 09:48 PM   #48
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It's no fun for me either.
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Old 12-24-2009, 10:44 PM   #49
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We're all in this for fun.

When it stops being fun...

rhodescholar is having fun. He just has a different idea of fun.
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Old 12-24-2009, 10:53 PM   #50
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It's no fun for me either.
But it's always fun watching you destroy people on this forum.
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