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Old 05-05-2009, 05:57 PM   #1
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Default Barack Obama torpedos Bangalore -- again
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/O...ow/4484787.cms

WASHINGTON: There he goes again, bashing Bangalore. ( Watch)

Not for the first time, US President Barack Obama invoked India’s much-celebrated economic hotspot, which has become an all-encompassing metaphor to describe everything from job loss to globalization, to rally Americans for a protectionist cause.

At a White House event on Monday to unveil tax reforms aimed at forcing American multinationals to pay corporate taxes -- and keep jobs -- at home, Obama lashed out at the current US system, saying it encouraged paying ''lower taxes if you create a job in Bangalore, India, than if you create one in Buffalo, New York.''

The US President’s beef wasn’t really with Bangalore; the barb was aimed more at US firms and their wily ways. But Bangalore has become a catch-all term to hang US economic woes on. Obama has done it at least three times.

Bangalore has lent its name to many things in history, from a torpedo made during World War II (depicted in the movie Saving Private Ryan) to a stealth destroyer built for the Indian Navy. There was even a race horse named Bangalore that took part in the Grand National Derby in Liverpool in 1842.

But none of them have gained as much currency as the neologism ''Bangalored,'' a term that has galloped into dictionaries to describe loss of jobs due to offshoring.

For a while, the city might have felt good at the international attention. But with repeated -- and accusatory -- use, especially by the US President, it is starting to sound like an abomination -- or should that be an Obamination?

Across the world, long time natives of the city -- present company included -- are frequently thrown words (or looks) tantamount to ''aren’t you the guys taking away our jobs?'' when the place of origin is disclosed.

On Monday, Obama was at it again, banging up Bangalore (when it could well have been Beijing or Bucharest if he was so into alliteration) and buffing Buffalo, a city in upstate New York that thrives on foreign tourists because of its proximity to Niagara Falls.

The crux of the Obama argument is that under current US tax code, American corporations with subsidiaries in foreign countries can defer paying US taxes on the profits of those subsidiaries until the money is transferred back to this country.

As long as those earnings are plowed back into the foreign subsidiaries (which firms do, creating more jobs there), they can avoid paying taxes indefinitely. If the money is brought back to the US, corporations can subtract foreign taxes already paid.

The Obama plan unveiled on Monday would, among other things, prohibit US firms from receiving foreign tax credits on income that is not subject to US taxes. It will also end a provision that lets the firms legally shift income from one foreign subsidiary to another, thus perpetually ducking taxes.

As a result, companies such as General Electric, Google, Intel, and Hewlett-Packard, all of which have operations in Bangalore, will lose tax credits and be forced to pony up more tax dollars to Uncle Sam.

Whether the multinationals, which get more bang -- or Bangalore -- for the buck outside the United States in terms of productivity will take this lying down is another matter. Congress has to approve the plan, and not all lawmakers are in its favor. Past attempts to pass similar laws have failed. The multinationals may yet torpedo it with stealthy lobbying.
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Old 05-05-2009, 05:59 PM   #2
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123799610031239341.html
IBM to Cut U.S. Jobs, Expand in India

International Business Machines Corp. plans to lay off about 5,000 U.S. employees, with many of the jobs being transferred to India, according to people familiar with the situation.
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Old 05-05-2009, 06:09 PM   #3
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The issue isn't about tax credits for shipping jobs out. The issue is shipping jobs and dollars out at the same time they are allowed to take tax credits for the expenses incurred HERE for the overhead of having sent those jobs out. In short, WE are paying to expedite the exportation of our own employment.

I imagine that many multinationals will attempt to circumvent this by spinning off subsidiaries the same way the Germans and Swiss did in WW2.
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Old 05-05-2009, 06:24 PM   #4
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The issue isn't about tax credits for shipping jobs out. The issue is shipping jobs and dollars out at the same time they are allowed to take tax credits for the expenses incurred HERE for the overhead of having sent those jobs out. In short, WE are paying to expedite the exportation of our own employment.
I agree on that.

Who started it and Why?
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Old 05-05-2009, 08:40 PM   #5
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I do not know the origins of that aspect of our 12,000 page tax code.
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Old 05-06-2009, 01:30 AM   #6
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shravan,

Good article but please don't paste entire articles in the future.

Instead, just paste the main portions of the article and add your own comments on it.

Thanks.
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Old 08-05-2009, 06:43 PM   #7
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http://infotech.indiatimes.com/News/...ow/4492045.cms
BJP: No outsourcing, no nuclear deal
"We will tell the Americans very clearly that we will not implement the Indo-Us nuclear deal, if this is the policy (removal of tax cuts for those outsourcing), you (will)follow with a friendly country like India," former Finance and External Affairs Minister Yashwant Sinha told PTI in an interview.
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"Why should India buy nuclear reactors from them, create employment opportunities in the US. If it (US) wants to extinguish employment opportunities in India by theses methods, why should we then generate employment for Americans by importing nuclear reactors from them," said Sinha, whose party has said it will renegotiate the deal if it comes to power.
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Sinha asked if India should take the US stand on outsourcing lying down. "Look at what Obama is doing. First the H1B visas and now the taxation proposal that they will not give tax benefits to companies which outsource jobs outside. This is directed at India and the formulation is Buffalo and not Bangalore. Should India take it lying down," Sinha said.

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Nuclear deal could create 2,50,000 American jobs.
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