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Representative John Linder has reintroduced H.R. 25, the alleged fair tax, in the House of Representatives and there are 27 co-sponsors supporting this proposal which is designed to subjugate, as income taxation now does, our Constitution’s fair share formula stated in Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3 which commands the tax described in H.R. 25 “shall be apportioned among the several states”.




State`s population

------------------------------------- X SUM TO BE RAISED = STATE`S SHARE

Total U.S. Population

Keep in mind our socialist friends in American and the friends of big government worked very hard in the early 1900’s to have a constitutional amendment adopted to remove the requirement of apportioning a specific wealth based tax among the states involving “taxes on incomes“ [see the 16th Amendment]..

Now they are back and want to tax property, real and personal [proposed to be taxed by H.R. 25] without apportionment among the states and without regard to any census or enumeration as required by our Constitution, and thereby close the circle of a socialist and big government friendly taxing structure which reaches not only “property“, real and personal, but keeps alive Congress‘s power to also tax “incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census of enumeration.”

Here is a list of those who are working to further erode federalism and subjugate the rule of apportionment which our founding fathers intended to apply to wealth based taxes:

Rep. John Linder [R-GA]
Rep. Spencer Bachus [R-AL]
Rep. Dan Boren [D-OK]
Rep. Kevin Brady [R-TX]
Rep. Dan Burton [R-IN]
Rep. Michael Conaway [R-TX]
Rep. Ander Crenshaw [R-FL]
Rep. John Culberson [R-TX]
Rep. Jo Ann Davis [R-VA]
Rep. Nathan Deal [R-GA]
Rep. Thelma Drake [R-VA]
Rep. Tom Feeney [R-FL]
Rep. John Gingrey [R-GA]
Rep. Virgil Goode [R-VA]
Rep. Kay Granger [R-TX]
Rep. Michael McCaul [R-TX]
Rep. Jeff Miller [R-FL]
Rep. Sue Myrick [R-NC]
Rep. Randy Neugebauer [R-TX]
Rep. Charles Norwood [R-GA]
Rep. Steven Pearce [R-NM]
Rep. Mike Pence [R-IN]
Rep. Ted Poe [R-TX]
Rep. Tom Price [R-GA]
Rep. Clifford Stearns [R-FL]
Rep. Thomas Tancredo [R-CO]
Rep. Lynn Westmoreland [R-GA]
Rep. Donald Young [R-AK]


For a great article on taxation in America see: Taxation and Representation which concludes:




Any long-term strategy for relieving the American people of the inquisitorial, inefficient income tax must begin with a withdrawal of the United States from the World Trade Organization (WTO). Although the WTO was sold to the American public as a step toward international tax reduction (by cutting tariff revenues), the WTO and previous GATT agreements merely proposed to transfer tax collecting from the U.S. Customs Department to the IRS. To overturn the income tax will require that the American people demand that Congress abolish this tax and replace that remnant of Marxism with the system which America's Founders designed. Funny that Rep. John Linder is the mouthpiece on Capitol Hill for the internationalist one world crowd who are behind the NAFTA, WTO, GATT, CAFTA, etc.

The only tax reform freedom loving people need is to have the following words added to their Constitution, bringing us back to our founding father’s original tax plan which was created by tax rebels and designed to control the actions of Congress, rather than have Congress control the people:

The Sixteenth Amendment is hereby repealed and Congress is henceforth forbidden to lay ``any`` tax or burden calculated from profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money


Regards,

JWK

The servant has become the master over those who created a servant and the new servant pays tribute by taxation to a gangster government which ignores our most basic laws…our constitutions, state and federal.

[unlomarma]

Those who are interested in real tax reform, check this out!

Rep. Ron Paul is not a co-sponsor, nor supports the alleged fair tax (H.R.25)!

Also visit THE POLL! Truth is, the alleged fair tax really sucks!

Regards,

JWK

[streMunford]

JUST A NOTE!

Fair Tax Blog started the following conversation:

Direct Taxation vs. Indirect Taxation

Of course, I had to correct inaccurate information [see my post posted May 11, 2007 at 4:34 pm]. Wonder how long my post will stay there.

JWK

[mArVHDO6]

The subject line of this topic captivated me, but in the interest of time, I'll have to wait for the movie to come out.

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It is simply amazing that Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo, after courageously rising up to fight against the amnesty bill, would both favor the alleged fair tax proposal [H.R. 25]. The provisions of H.R. 25 if adopted and enforced would not only tighten the iron fist of the federal government over the productivity of the American People and their property, but the proposal is an outright assault upon our Constitution’s rule by which the people of the various States agreed to contribute in a general tax among the states if imposts, duties and miscellaneous excise taxes were found insufficient to meet Congress’s expenditures!

During the framing of our Constitution states with superior wealth objected to granting a power of taxation to Congress based upon wealth and would leave them paying more of a federal tax than poorer states. The wealthier States believed they should have a larger voting strength in Congress if they were asked to contribute a larger share of revenue into the federal treasury then poorer states.

Eventually, a compromise was reached [Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3] “Representatives and direct taxes shall be apportioned among the several States…….” The intention of the above wording, which is contrary to the popular myth that it made Blacks 3/5 of a person, was an agreed upon rule determining each states’ voting strength in Congress Assembled, and also was intended to determine each states’ share of a general tax if imposts, duties and miscellaneous excise taxes were found insufficient to meet Congress’s expenditures.

NOTE: imposts, duties and miscellaneous excise taxes were intended by the founders to be Congress’s primary means for raising a federal revenue, not a general tax among the states!

Our Constitution’s fair share formula for a general tax among the States may be expressed as follows:


State`s population

--------------------------- X SUM TO BE RAISED = STATE`S SHARE

Total U.S. Population

Keep in mind our Constitution’s fair share formula represents a cornerstone of federalism and meant to protect an economic right of the people within each of the various State borders, it is explicitly intended to determine a specific proportion of a tax the people of each state are obligated to contribute if a general tax among the states is imposed by Congress.

Thinking conservatives are fully aware that socialists and the friends of big government are great at spending other people’s money and always demand their one man one vote part of the Constitution when it comes to determine how money shall be spent from the federal treasury. But when it comes time to fill the national treasury in a general tax among the States, they create every artful means to allow themselves to run and hide from the one vote one dollar part of the Constitution. If H.R. 25 were adopted and enforced it would subjugate our Constitution‘s rule of representation with proportional obligation!

Keep in mind our socialist friends in American, the Populist Party during the late 1800’s early 1900’s, worked very hard to have a constitutional amendment adopted to remove the requirement of apportioning a specific wealth based tax among the states involving taxes calculated from “incomes” [see the 16th Amendment]. H.R. 25 by its very language, proposes to extend the reach of Congress and allow a tax to be calculated from the value of property, real and personal, and would do so without apportionment among the several States and without regard to any census or enumeration. In addition, H.R. 25 would keep alive Congress’s power to calculate taxes from profits, gains, salaries and other “incomes”, and does not even suggest to withdrawn this taxing power from Congress‘s powers!

Question is, why would Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo support this expansion of Congress’s taxing powers, allowing Congress to tax our property, real and personal, when all that is necessary for real tax reform is to have the following words added to our Constitution which would bring us back to our founder’s intended original tax plan ___ a plan created by tax rebels and designed to control the actions of Congress, rather than having Congress control the people:

The Sixteenth Amendment is hereby repealed and Congress is henceforth forbidden to lay ``any`` tax or burden calculated from profits, gains, interest, salaries, wages, tips, inheritances or any other lawfully realized money

Regards,

JWK

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Talk about some ignorant, misguided rhetoric and dogma! Several years ago, Johnwk, ("JWK") (who I just noted has been banned, writes:

"The architects of the plan have created what they call a “Family Consumption Allowance“ (FCA) which is a monthly check proposed to be sent by Congress to each American Household, intended to be earmarked by each household to offset taxes paid on the basic necessities of life, which in fact are to be taxed under the FT."

Then, in his infinite wisdom, Tom Auch wrote:


A Consumption Tax is a great way to screw the poor. Why should Bush make every trip to the car dealer and every purchase of appliances a vitural trip to H&R Block? It would discourage people from spending, and because it is a regressive tax is will not make nearly as much money as the federal income tax does. Ironically, Republicans love to bash European "socialist" economies, but consumption/sales taxes are pretty popular in most European countries... just look at the high cost of consumer goods over there!

The conversation goes downhill from there, but my first point, is that what JWK wrote is absolutely fictitious. There is no "monthy check to each American household", and goods and services such as food, clothing, etc., are not taxed under the Proposed Fair Tax Legislation. Tom's observations are just as convoluted....First, the "Fair Tax Legislation" is not just a "consumption tax, it is a fair, reasoned approach to comprehensive tax reform in this Nation, and if one would take the time to read and understand the policy and legislation, there is literally no one that could come to the conclusion that we should NOT adopt this comprehensive tax reform plan NOW! There is no politician in this Nation, who could have our best interests at heart, and not support the Fair Tax Legislation! READ THE INFORMATION ON THE WEB SITE!!

http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer?pagename=about_main

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...goods and services such as food, clothing, etc., are not taxed under the Proposed Fair Tax Legislation
There is no politician in this Nation, who could have our best interests at heart, and not support the Fair Tax Legislation!

The inflation tax not being enough, the Treasury Dept. wants to get a hand into each and every cash register in the country. IOW, there is already a rent charged on held money, now they want to add a user fee as well.

A consumption tax will only ever be fair if and when saving is not penalized by the inflationary erosion of the dollar caused by the deficit enabling federal reserve system currently holding our money's value hostage.

Officially, it is unclear just "who is in charge of the dollar." Some further remarks.