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Old 05-29-2010, 02:06 AM   #1
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Default Soldier says robbers took his assault rifle
An Atlanta television station says a soldier reports being robbed of his military assault rifle while he was home on leave. Read the story here: http://www.armytimes.com/news/2010/0...obbery_052810/

It seems to me that you can file this one under "The School Bully took my Lunch Money!"

What was he doing with his Army Rifle in his car? Shouldn't he have left it in his Unit Arms Room?

At the very least he is going to have to buy Uncle Sam a replacement, and he will at least get an Article 15 for his Negligence. If they can prove he "sold" it to the person who took it, he can end up in Jail.
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Old 05-29-2010, 03:11 PM   #2
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Why the heck was he even allowed to take it with him on leave??
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Old 05-29-2010, 03:58 PM   #3
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It seems that history is repeating itself.

When I first joined, the system in use on Pearl Harbor Day was still in use vis-a-vis Long and Hand Guns in Garrison. The only weapons that were kept in the Arms Room fell into three categories: weapons still unissued; Heavy Weapons that had no place outside of actual combat or training, and Personal Weapons. The Issued Weapons - which included Long Guns for those who carried them (Rifles, Carbines, and Shot Guns) and Hand Guns (Pistols and Revolvers), again for those authorized to carry them. In those days, the term "carry" had different connotations than it does today. Today, it means tbeing able to keep it in your personal possession as you wish. In those days it meant being authorized to actually use it. In any event, Long Guns and Handguns had to be kept in their Racks in the Barracks, with sufficient Racks in each Barracks Room for the Platoon(s) that resided therein. The Squad Leaders and the Platoon Sergeants held the rack keys. The rationale was threefold: First of all, your weapon was accessible at any time, so you had absolutely no excuse about it being clean and properly maintained. Second, your Squad Leader could schedule Range Time as your Platoon felt necessary, and he could draw Ammo from the Arms Room accordingly on Range Day, and take his Squad to the Range for Rifle Practice. Third, should the Post become under attack, it was easier for the units to assume a Defensive posture. It was this last one that proved itself on Pearl Harbor Day because the Ground units were able to return fire and bring some of the planes down.

Problems cropped up during the Vietnam War where weapons accountability became an issue, and weapons started to show up on the streets. Furthermore, Range Time became scarce because of the rush to push units out the door, as well as Maintenance time, so it was decided that Garrison Rules were changed. Rifles and Hand Guns were locked up in the Arms Room, and taken out only when the Commander required them. Of course, personal retention of Rifles and Hand Guns in the field was maintained for obvious reasons.

The problem with the mass storage of Rifles and Hand Guns is that one person has to account for the entire unit Armory, and slip ups and miscounts are just as easy - possibly easier - as with the Dispersed Storage.

The question now arises: how many other Rifles are missing? How many of them have been reported?
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Old 05-29-2010, 06:17 PM   #4
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My units arms rooms contain our m-4s and m-9s. In the AF it states they WILL NOT be transported in POVs. This dude seems like a moron that was bringing his rifle home to show his buddies how cool he is.
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Old 05-30-2010, 08:12 AM   #5
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I'm gonna have to pull out the BullS*** flag on this one. Everyone knows we don't EVER transport military weapons in our own vehicles. All military weapons are strictly controlled and accounted for. This guy was up to something fishy and that's all there is to say about it. He's an idiot, a thief and possibly a terrorist (I categorize anyone tryin to harm us in any way as a terrorist now).
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Old 05-30-2010, 06:59 PM   #6
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I'm waving the BS flag right on this one too. Soldiers are not allowed to take their weapons out of the arms room as they see fit. The story doesn't really make any sense. Either there is some seriously piss poor weapons accountability in his unit or someone within his unit, maybe the Armorer, helped him steal the rifle. Either way he's a moron and hopefully on his way to being a civilian again.
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Old 05-31-2010, 02:38 AM   #7
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Na. Leavenworth imo.
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