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Old 05-19-2012, 07:39 PM   #21
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What you meant is one story, what could be the interpretation is another story, you need to differiate between bare facts and their interpretation and not only by you but also others.

Its called 'offending by an association' and the object you associate someone with doesnt have to be any bad, its just that the association exists and some people use or used it for wrong (or selfish) reasons.


Translating into this case- Nazi used 'Mongol connection' to persecute people. The problem with this is that there was no Mongol connection (or no such as they presented) and that even if it had been there, it still wouldnt have been a reason to kill people or persecute them-so its wrong on two levels- a crime based on two lies.

Its like imagine I said 'SmartCelt should be killed cause he is a gay'- one thing is, I lied about gayness, two- I used it ax an excuse to kill you, but I have no right to kill you even if you are a gay. And now imagine all the forum is repeating 'Smart Celt is a gay we need to kill him' and one day some new member comes and starts a thread 'what do you think, is SmartCelt a gay, he looks and behaves like, I think he must be a gay'.
Its very similar.
While you may be right, I get the feeling that some of the responses I got were insecurity on account of my questioning their "racial purity" even if it turns out I was completely wrong. To me, that is stupid, and fits this topic perfectly. I'm not denying that my question was ignorant and in poor taste, however.
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Old 05-19-2012, 07:47 PM   #22
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I think that's a testament to how easily their features can be erased, but I don't want to start a flame war here.
It's not erased. Any colour other than dark brown or black is an expression of blondness, which means that the genes are there, and that they will express themselves occasionally depending on the genetic combination.

Europeans are certainly far more blond than any other group of people, including Melanesians as a whole and Australian Aborigines as well, the latter who mostly are blond as kids and/or have their hair bleached by the sun, which isn't blondism.

Obviously you can point out a sub group who are more blond, but you can do this in Europe as well.
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Old 05-19-2012, 07:48 PM   #23
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@SmartCelt Yes there may be some insecurity involved, buty a different kind of insecurity. You know, there is a difference between 'I feel insecure cause I dont comply to Nordic standards' and ' I feel insecure cause someone tried to kill my family becaue of my ethnic origin' these are two different scenarios.
Like with Jews, as same with Slavs, there was a racial persecution and it was a fact. Its history and it was obviously some kind of pathology but what I mean is- it happenned. Its different than some 'not enough blonde' guy blinking to his mirror and comparing his skull to racial ideals, do you get the drift?
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Old 05-19-2012, 08:05 PM   #24
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The word "white" shouldn't be attributed to the greatest achievements and civilisations in world history.

I as a pred. Iranid looking (and perhaps thinking) person must admit that the words "Nordic" and "Mediterrainian" should be attributed to the greatest developments in culture, science and civilisation in general.

Most of histories greatest European leaders, that led their people to prosperity all had long-skulled Nordic and (in Europe's south) Mediterranean traits.

For example, I would consider Neo-Danubian and East-Baltic Slavs to white, but absolutely hopeless at having civilisation. But all those stupid nationalists think that they are like the rest of Europe.

Nonetheless, the Asians have a knack for culture and civilisation in their own sort of way.
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Old 05-19-2012, 08:05 PM   #25
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@SmartCelt Yes there may be some insecurity involved, buty a different kind of insecurity. You know, there is a difference between 'I feel insecure cause I dont comply to Nordic standards' and ' I feel insecure cause someone tried to kill my family becaue of my ethnic origin' these are two different scenarios.
Like with Jews, as same with Slavs, there was a racial persecution and it was a fact. Its history and it was obviously some kind of pathology but what I mean is- it happenned. Its different than some 'not enough blonde' guy blinking to his mirror and comparing his skull to racial ideals, do you get the drift?
It's also possible that many of the hostile responses I got were from Poles who were completely unaware of the intricate details of the history between them and the Nazis, as I was. I hope you can see my point because as you can tell, I'm not particularly diplomatic.
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Old 05-19-2012, 08:26 PM   #26
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It's also possible that many of the hostile responses I got were from Poles who were completely unaware of the intricate details of the history between them and the Nazis, as I was. I hope you can see my point because as you can tell, I'm not particularly diplomatic.
Everything is possible. No worries.
You can always learn some diplomatic skills.
Lesson first- for official Dinner you should be late between 5 and 30 minutes. After this time is a big faux paux to come.
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Old 05-19-2012, 08:28 PM   #27
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Everything is possible. No worries.
You can always learn some diplomatic skills.
Lesson first- for official Dinner you should be late between 5 and 30 minutes. After this time is a big faux paux to come.
Another big faux pas is misspelling faux pas
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Old 05-19-2012, 08:31 PM   #28
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Another big faux pas is misspelling faux pas
I did it deliberately to see if someone corrects me, I was testing forum members.



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Old 05-19-2012, 08:35 PM   #29
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I did it deliberately to see if someone corrects me, I was testing forum members.



Have I passed Monsieur Ambassador? Should I get my tails and bow tie ready for the soiree at the embassy?
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Old 05-19-2012, 08:52 PM   #30
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Have I passed Monsieur Ambassador? Should I get my tails and bow tie ready for the soiree at the embassy?
yes, you passed Stewart and now please get my coat and umbrella ready cause its rainng outsde!

seriously, I have read a proper book about diplomatic rules and routines and general SV, its quite interesting, I was surprised with some things (which are versus my common sense, for instance its better to under-dress than to over-dress if you dont know how to dress for an occassion. I always thought its better to dress better 'just in case', but I understand the logic now)
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Old 05-19-2012, 09:11 PM   #31
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The word "white" shouldn't be attributed to the greatest achievements and civilisations in world history.

I as a pred. Iranid looking (and perhaps thinking) person must admit that the words "Nordic" and "Mediterrainian" should be attributed to the greatest developments in culture, science and civilisation in general.

Most of histories greatest European leaders, that led their people to prosperity all had long-skulled Nordic and (in Europe's south) Mediterranean traits.

For example, I would consider Neo-Danubian and East-Baltic Slavs to white, but absolutely hopeless at having civilisation. But all those stupid nationalists think that they are like the rest of Europe.

Nonetheless, the Asians have a knack for culture and civilisation in their own sort of way.
No, you're not white, and you're not Nordic, and you're certainly not European because you're "Iranid".
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Old 05-19-2012, 09:25 PM   #32
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In the USA, "white" has become blurred and includes people from India, North Africa, Middle East, Hispanics, and mixed-race people.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...109#post879109










More...http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/homepage.do

http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/off...?link=showMore


non-white but listed as white --> http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/off...o?personId=428

non-white but listed as white --> http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/off...personId=49658
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Old 05-19-2012, 09:26 PM   #33
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No, you're not white, and you're not Nordic, and you're certainly not European because you're "Iranid".
And yet you forgot to mention that he does not have Scythian ancestors like you!
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Old 05-19-2012, 09:29 PM   #34
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And yet you forgot to mention that he does not have Scythian ancestors like you!
Well he's certainly nothing like the early Scythians, like me. Happy?
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Old 05-19-2012, 09:44 PM   #35
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Is it me or do people convicted of being sexual predators always look abnormal?
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Old 05-19-2012, 09:57 PM   #36
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Is it me or do people convicted of being sexual predators always look abnormal?
Often, but not always. Some of the most normal, bland looking people have been sexual predators, and even serial killers with a sexual motive.
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Old 05-19-2012, 10:00 PM   #37
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Is it me or do people convicted of being sexual predators always look abnormal?
Not sure, bud. Those fellas look pretty ordinary to me. Save for the Khan fella, the other men would not be atypical for the streets of, say, Miami.
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Old 05-19-2012, 10:13 PM   #38
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Not sure, bud. Those fellas look pretty ordinary to me. Save for the Khan fella, the other men would not be atypical for the streets of, say, Miami.
That's interesting because I was thinking of the ones shown in the thread Khan looked the least abnormal. Perhaps knowing they were convicted effects my impression.

Maybe we should have a "spot the sexual predator thread" where we mix up mug shots of people arrested for misdemeanors with mugshots of those convicted for a sexual crime. You can find loads of mugshot pics online of people arrested but not convicted. Personally I think it's fucked up posting mugshots of people who were arrested but not convicted yet but some counties don't give a damn.
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Old 05-19-2012, 10:15 PM   #39
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That's interesting because I was thinking of the ones shown in the thread Khan looked the least abnormal. Perhaps knowing they were convicted effects my impression.

Maybe we should have a "spot the sexual predator thread" where we mix up mug shots of people arrested for misdemeanors with mugshots of those convicted for a sexual crime. You can find loads of mugshot pics online of people arrested but not convicted. Personally I think it's fucked up posting mugshots of people who were arrested but not convicted yet but some counties don't give a damn.
yh that would be great, see if we have a 6th sense in spotting criminals
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Old 05-19-2012, 10:18 PM   #40
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But what is Abfers obsession being white i am so tired of those endless white topics
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