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Old 05-02-2012, 03:03 PM   #21
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What makes a culture European? The cultures in Europe are so diverse, from balkan/greek culture to Iberian culture to Latvian culture to Icelandic culture....the only way I see it, is European being just a geographic term.
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Old 05-02-2012, 03:07 PM   #22
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What makes a culture European? The cultures in Europe are so diverse, from balkan/greek culture to Iberian culture to Latvian culture to Icelandic culture....the only way I see it, is European being just a geographic term.
There definitely is a European culture. It might be slightly different in every region but you can't deny that there is a culture linking all European countries together. Eurovision and other events are good examples of it.
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Old 05-02-2012, 03:09 PM   #23
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There definitely is a European culture. It might be slightly different in every region but you can't deny that there is a culture linking all European countries together. Eurovision and other events are good examples of it.
Eurovision?

So what connects Bulgarian culture with Irish culture?
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Old 05-02-2012, 03:17 PM   #24
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Basques are probably the European culture with less external influence, I think only Christianity is external. Even many of the Christians traditions in Basque country are heavily influenced by the pagan Basque traditions. In the Basque country there is no Santa Claus, instead there is a guy with a beret named olentzero;
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Old 05-02-2012, 03:20 PM   #25
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Eurovision?

So what connects Bulgarian culture with Irish culture?
Why don't you read about it if you don't believe me?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_Europe
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Old 05-02-2012, 03:23 PM   #26
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Why don't you read about it if you don't believe me?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_Europe
Still doesn't answer my question.
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Old 05-02-2012, 03:58 PM   #27
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Again this Mosov with his agenda.

It seems that he doesn't like the fact that there is both genetically and culturally European.

I mean 100% pure is rare to nonexistent anywhere but clustering of a group as genetically European do exist.
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Old 05-02-2012, 04:46 PM   #28
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Again this Mosov with his agenda.

It seems that he doesn't like the fact that there is both genetically and culturally European.

I mean 100% pure is rare to nonexistent anywhere but clustering of a group as genetically European do exist.
No I just don't understand what it means for a culture to be culturally European. What criterea does it have to satisfy? I want to know what connects Bulgarians culture to Irish culture to make them under the same group.
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Old 05-02-2012, 04:52 PM   #29
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No I just don't understand what it means for a culture to be culturally European. What criterea does it have to satisfy? I want to know what connects Bulgarians culture to Irish culture to make them under the same group.
So you at least agree with the genes part?
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Old 05-02-2012, 04:54 PM   #30
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There definitely is a European culture. It might be slightly different in every region but you can't deny that there is a culture linking all European countries together. Eurovision and other events are good examples of it.
If you didn't know Eurovision has Israel, Georgia, Azerbaijan, etc. entries. Eurovision is not a good example.
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Old 05-02-2012, 04:59 PM   #31
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No I just don't understand what it means for a culture to be culturally European. What criterea does it have to satisfy? I want to know what connects Bulgarians culture to Irish culture to make them under the same group.
To that degree that Bulgarian culture is closer to Irish than to Armenian/Assyrian one.

And Bulgarians perceive Armenians as exotic looking people.
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Old 05-02-2012, 05:01 PM   #32
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I've always been against the label Europe aside from being a geographic label. I mean grouping Scots and Norwegians with Greeks and Albanians? Spaniards with Lithuanians? It's glossing over the many differences that exist.
well, I've never been to Spain but I suspect that Lithuanians would find biggger similarities with them than f.ex. North Africans, Midddle Easterners, etc. If there are transitive zones it does not mean that European culture, genes etc. does not exist.
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Old 05-02-2012, 05:05 PM   #33
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I've always been against the label Europe aside from being a geographic label. I mean grouping Scots and Norwegians with Greeks and Albanians? Spaniards with Lithuanians? It's glossing over the many differences that exist.
I agree with you here.
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Old 05-02-2012, 05:10 PM   #34
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No, but Northeastern Europeans are closest to the real deal.

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I agree with you here.
Do you really thing we have nothing in common with Spaniards?
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Old 05-02-2012, 05:11 PM   #35
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So what connects Bulgarian culture with Irish culture?
You're absolutely right.

It's pathetic that a lot of people claim some Indo European unity spanning from Iceland to Greece. In reality, these people are more different to each other than Greeks and Lebanese.

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Do you really thing we have nothing in common with Spaniards?
Christian culture of course. Do you think we have nothing in common with Pygmies?

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There definitely is a European culture. It might be slightly different in every region but you can't deny that there is a culture linking all European countries together. Eurovision and other events are good examples of it.
There's also a common Islamic culture spanning from Morocco to Indonesia.
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Old 05-02-2012, 05:22 PM   #36
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So you at least agree with the genes part?
Do I agree in the term "genetically European"? No lol, but I agree that nations that have developed next to each other for ages, and given no genetic barrier both geographic and cultural, will naturally cluster closer to each other.

To that degree that Bulgarian culture is closer to Irish than to Armenian/Assyrian one.

And Bulgarians perceive Armenians as exotic looking people.
Err, no, Bulgarian is closer actually to Greek even Turkish more than to Irish. Bulgaria was under Ottoman Empire for many years. Same can be said about other Balkan cultures.
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Old 05-02-2012, 05:29 PM   #37
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Do I agree in the term "genetically European"? No lol, but I agree that nations that have developed next to each other for ages, and given no genetic barrier both geographic and cultural, will naturally cluster closer to each other.
So how is the term invalid if the Europeans are genetically close to each other? If you cluster with them genetically you are European. I think that this is pretty easy.
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Old 05-02-2012, 05:31 PM   #38
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Many European are pure Europeans, but that doesn't mean that they're "racially pure", just that their origin is 100% within Europe even if we go really extremely far back, and any presumed "admixture" is just a component of the ethno-genesis of the peoples of Europe, and this composite just varies. What does it matter anyway? It really depends on what you mean by "pure". I gather that people usually means "purely European" if all their ancestry originates in Europe, and that they have no other ancestry.

We could call all humans "purely unmixed African" since all humans (incl. Neanderthals) ultimately have African origin.
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Old 05-02-2012, 05:32 PM   #39
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So how is the term invalid if the Europeans are genetically close to each other? If you cluster with them genetically you are European. I think that this is pretty easy.
It is not easy for him.

Armenian Urhemait didn't work,now "there is no European genetically" in the work.
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Old 05-02-2012, 05:33 PM   #40
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So how is the term invalid if the Europeans are genetically close to each other? If you cluster with them genetically you are European. I think that this is pretty easy.
Because it has a wrong connotation. What led to them to cluster close to each other? Geography and culture, hence geography and culture should be emphasised because that's what led to there being such clustering in the first place.

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It is not easy for him.

Armenian Urhemait didn't work,now "there is no European genetically" in the work.
Why you have to troll my every post?
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