[EspanaCamsInfo]

I thought that you are from the United Kingdom.

I don't know how you could say UK is not Northern Europe.

[Cucoulkrory]

Latvia is culturally Nordic.

Latvia is culturally very Baltic, you're also a bunch of Balts.

[Qdkczrdi]

Latvia is culturally very Baltic, you're also a bunch of Balts.

Baltic culture - Latvian culture = Nordic culture

[Lvnufcdc]

Ain't this thread about racism?

[oliverlogo]

Baltic culture - Latvian culture = Nordic culture

Latvians are a mix of Eastern-European(seen in very high corruption rates) and Central-European cultural heritage.

Be happy that you're a Baltic Balt, while leave us, Estonians, alone. Sometimes, you Latvians are more interested in Estonian matters than we are.

[uneniaPhenits]

Basically I think that this division is wrong. If we look at Europe, then Eastern part is more racist.

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Latvians are a mix of Eastern-European(seen in very high corruption rates) and Central-European cultural heritage.

Be happy that you're a Baltic Balt, while leave us, Estonians, alone. Sometimes, you Latvians are more interested in Estonian matters than we are.

Seriously, leave Latvia alone, you have no idea about our culture or heritage. You may say whatever you want about Estonia, I really don't care, but if you are not competent in the questions about Latvia, better keep quite.

[videolkif]

Baltic wars in every thread

[Vobomei]

Basically I think that this division is wrong. If we look at Europe, then Eastern part is more racist.

Indeed, those Eastern-European Balto-Slavs are really intolerant.

Did you know that Russia has as many neo-nazis as the rest of the world has combined?

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Baltic wars in every thread

If a Baltic Balt trolls a Nordic-Finnic Estonian, then does that automatically make this dispute, Baltic?

As you know, there's nothing Baltic about the Estonians. The Baltic tribes are immigrant to this part of Europe and the Latvians assimilated our Finnic brethern, the Livonians(who were a barrier between us and the Balts, thus saving us, but getting destroyed themselves).

[insightmike]

I noticed greek and portuguese aren't racist. Spanish, albanian, and italians (not all) are the most racist in southern europe.

[Uciaucrx]

I noticed greek and portuguese aren't racist. Spanish, albanian, and italians (not all) are the most racist in southern europe.

Stereotypes. Number of votes of far right political parties in Spain are ridiculous for example. Compare with Netherlands, Sweden, France or Switzerland.

[unlomarma]

Victimized discriminated trash in Northern Europe like to talk about how racist the pale Northen Europeans are, while they think they will be better treated in Italy because they are dark-pigmented too. Yeah, but they aren't named Ahmed in Italy..

[Bymnbypeten]

Stereotypes. Number of votes of far right political parties in Spain are ridiculous for example. Compare with Netherlands, Sweden, France or Switzerland.

If Front National had a big success recently, it's because they are many french who don't vote, in the second election, the participation was higher and the front national score wasn't high . Here peoples aren't racist, peoples just hate the delinquent. If you look the vote, Front national had success mostly in the countryside, place where peoples are poor , in those places peoples had the feeling to be view like second class french in politic . And the front national say to those persons : it's because they are too many immigrant. Most of the times those person never saw a black or a arab of their life, except when they come to big town and see peoples of all colors.

In fact here we don't care about race. The only problem is the islam, not a big problem, because most of the peoples don't care about that.

PS: lol my english really suck haha

[Mboxmaja]

Racism is associated with the ignorant and hence why many people don't want themselves or their ethnic group to be perceived as racist but what does perception matter when in a century Europe won't look much like Europe.

I can't help but think that the elites allow immigration of third worlders into Europe to create an eventual back lash. That way they can impose themselves more completely under the guise of defending society from both the new underclass and "right wing" extremists.

[Diondra]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Way

They're baltic, the only Reason Estonia qualifies as half Nordic is because of their language is finnic, but genetically they are only like 20% finnish,

Latvia has no Finnish blood in them, furthermore all of these countries have a population of about 30%-40% Russian which is significant enough to say they are not Nordic, even if you don't think those immigrants count as a part of your country, guess what they do.

their cultures are a bit nordic, but also lots of eastern things unique to them

[mealiusarses]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Way

They're baltic

In the Soviet Union, the Balts were the most similar people to us. In Europe and the world, the Nordics are the most similar people to us.

the only Reason Estonia qualifies as half Nordic is because of their language is finnic Estonia isn't "half Nordic".

but genetically they are only like 20% finnish Estonians are 0% Finnish and 100% Estonian.

If you're basing your claims on Polako's tests where he refuses to rename the "Finnic" sample into "Finnish" sample, then I have to say that do not trust amateurs that much. He only has Finns in his sample, no Estonians, Ingrians or the Veps. That's like naming a plot "Germanic" but only having Germans in it.

Latvia has no Finnish blood in them Only Finland has Finnish blood.

But Latvia does have a lot of Finnic blood, through assimilating the Livonians and other native Finnic populations.

Because the Balts are so extremely FinN1C, means that they're very close to genetically. Too bad that they have abandoned their Finnic languages and cultures.

furthermore all of these countries have a population of about 30%-40% Russian which is significant enough to say they are not Nordic, even if you don't think those immigrants count as a part of your country, guess what they do. 25% of Estonia is Russian, but nevermind that.

Is Germany and German culture more Turkish because of Turkish immigrants?

Is the UK and English, Welsh, Scottish cultures more Polish because of Polish immigrants?

Is France and the French culture African because of black immigrants?

Obvious troll is obvious.

their cultures are a bit nordic, but also lots of eastern things unique to them Lithuanians are a bunch of Catholic Central-Europeans with Slavic influences, but you do have a point about the 2nd Balts, the Latvians. The Latvians are half-Lutheran, which has left a mark, thus they have some Nordic influence, but they're still a bunch of Balts who's corruption rate is so high that you'd think that they're actually Ukrainians. This high corruption rate shows their foreign Baltic Eastern-Europeaness.

Continue with your trolling, Mr. Troll


EDIT: Why did I bother with this long reply? You're a random Southern-American who probably has never met an European nor even been to Europe.

Your post talking about the Estonians is like a black guy from Congo talking about snow.

[sEe]

The population of Estonia is only 1 million, 25% are Russian. That makes a big difference In a few years you will basically be Russia, as opposed to Germany, I'm not trolling.

Also those Russians don't learn Estonian either. They are probably sent by Russian government to colonize the country.

Look at the Ukraine, their Russians don't learn Ukranian, they basically have their official language as Russian. It will happen to Estonia too, unless you kick them all out or force them to integrate strictly.

The nordic culture Estonia has was brought by Germany, Sweden and Finland, but when you look at the surrounding countries you can compare what the native culture is.

and I have met many Estonians and I'm not from south america.

[Cemeuncex]

With all due respect, I thought that thread was about racism in Europe not about Estonians and Finns.

[JesikaFclq]

your right, no idea how this got off topic, will not post regarding this anymore

[Raj_Copi_Jin]

The population of Estonia is only 1 million, 25% are Russian. That makes a big difference In a few years you will basically be Russia, as opposed to Germany, I'm not trolling.

Also those Russians don't learn Estonian either. They are probably sent by Russian government to colonize the country.

Look at the Ukraine, their Russians don't learn Ukranian, they basically have their official language as Russian. It will happen to Estonia too, unless you kick them all out or force them to integrate strictly.

The nordic culture Estonia has was brought by Germany, Sweden and Finland, but when you look at the surrounding countries you can compare what the native culture is.

and I have met many Estonians and I'm not from south america.

I reported your post and I'm not going to reply to you anymore, as you're obviously a troll after your claim(in bold).

P.S The population of Estonia is 1.3 million

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your right, no idea how this got off topic, will not post regarding this anymore

Good idea, your posts make as much sense as an Indonesian talking about skiing.

[AlabamaBoyz]

Nordic is an ethno-cultural term.

As I said before, the Balts and their countries may be in Northern-Europe, but culturally they're not Nordic, the same applies to the UK and the Brits.

Right.

Neither the Brits nor the Balts are ethno-culturally Northern-European/Nordic. But the countries of the Balts are geographically slightly more northern, I think. I forgot to answer this part.

The divisions are based on two dimensions, which is where the trouble is. Geographically, someplace like Estonia is both Northern European and Eastern European, while the UK/Ireland is Western European and borderline North/Central European in that dimension.