[Pjayjukr]

Boers are more native to South Africa than Zulus.

Yeah right.

[Kiliunjubl]

WTF!
South Africans have issues and why do people give Somalis so much abuse.
Even in Kenya many are abused and seen as terrorists

i know very sad
watch from 2:00 MINUTES
16 have been shot point blank in their shop in one month only and nothing has been stolen, the are slowly killing them off along with the white boers who also get horribly abused

[TriamiCaw]

WTF!
South Africans have issues and why do people give Somalis so much abuse.
Even in Kenya many are abused and seen as terrorists

I am not really sure about it but the fact that we come from a nomadic background has something to do it , I think . There is a saying I have heard that was attributed to a swahili speaking individual {not sure if he was Kenyan or Ugandan} that was in the King African Rifles as he was speking to a british counterpart , concerning the Somalis .
He said

How come South Africa just joined BRIC to become BRICS?

You guys are a bunch of lying crackas. South Africa is growing. Yall just want them to fail like you wished they would at hosting the World Cup. But......they didnt!

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Thats very sad.

But I heard they are hateful towards other Africans too. Some are distespectful to South Africans, Kenyans, etc.How are Somali Bantus treated in their country? Especially since they are outside the clan system?

Hopefully they can rebuild their own country so they wont have to face this.

The bantus in Somalia are not outside the clan system , they have one like everyone else .No2 other africans from country like Zambia , Zimbabwe are also treated unfairly at times . Xenephobia which is present in many societies in and outside of Africa coupled with etreme poverty can have a very ugly outcome.

[gundos]

Please don't go back.

Take your cum colored ass back to the Netherlands.

Payback just bitch-slapped you.

The Whites who are suffering the most today are not the English South Africans or the Cape Dutch, they are the Boers. Do you know what the Boers have been through? Your ignorance demonstrates that you don't; they weren't racists, they owned very few slaves (albeit for economic reasons), they refused to be part of the colonial regime my government imposed on South Africa, they refused to be tools of that racist regime and they were respected by the Blacks as a fellow African tribe. I bet that last bit boils your fucking blood doesn't it? Still, no matter how much it pisses you off, the Boers are African, they have never been anything else, their antecedents made a conscious effort to escape the tyranny of their imperial, European homelands and to live as semi-nomadic farmers; vile colonialists eh?

They were treated as nothing more than filth by my government, something which I am terribly ashamed of as an Englishman. They were locked in camps, their farms were scorched and they were deliberately displaced.

Oh and only about 25% of their ancestry is from the Netherlands, most of their ancestry is German. Shows how much you know.

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How come South Africa just joined BRIC to become BRICS?

You guys are a bunch of lying crackas. South Africa is growing. Yall just want them to fail like you wished they would at hosting the World Cup. But......they didnt![COLOR="Silver"]

I am no defender of the National Party but next to the ANC they look like saints.

Watch this:

[usadatronourl]

Boers are more native to South Africa than Zulus.

The Zulu have way more Khoisan ancestry than the Boers.

[suingincentix]

Boers will never be African. Its best they just leave.

[Caunnysup]

Boers will never be African. Its best they just leave.

It's their country they are no reason to live it . And they are african now .

[Lypepuddyu]

immigrants mainly Africans and Boers are abused/killed in South Africa they are slowly killing them until they are all dead. it is a shame that the mainstream media in ignoring and not reporting it.

this video below explains their current situation




@yeahitsaid, the boers have a right to stay since they lived in South Africa for many generations

[cewIdeatovace]

Boers are more native to South Africa than Zulus.

Precisely. This history is suppressed in the West, people simply don't know that the Boer's ancestors arrived in the mid 17th century while Bantus didn't enter what became RSA until the late 18th century (1780 is the date given IIRC).

And, I am speaking here about Boers not the Cape Dutch (Afrikaners) and definitely not about my brothers over there, the English. The English there are largely the descendants of colonialists posted there and of other economic migrants, the Boers ancestors were, to all intents and purposes, refugees; the VOC deliberately flooded their Frisian ancestors out of their homes to incentivise their migration to the trading post established at the Cape by Jan Van Rieeback (a false hero for Boers imo). The Cape Dutch are an intermediate case, while their language is African insofar as it arose on African soil, as did many of their customs, they were very loyal, as a group, to the Dutch colonial regime and later the British one. And, of course, they provided the backbone for the National Party which installed the South African macro-state.

[Rategbee]

The Whites who are suffering the most today are not the English South Africans or the Cape Dutch, they are the Boers. Do you know what the Boers have been through? Your ignorance demonstrates that you don't; they weren't racists, they owned very few slaves (albeit for economic reasons), they refused to be part of the colonial regime my government imposed on South Africa, they refused to be tools of that racist regime and they were respected by the Blacks as a fellow African tribe. I bet that last bit boils your fucking blood doesn't it? Still, no matter how much it pisses you off, the Boers are African, they have never been anything else, their antecedents made a conscious effort to escape the tyranny of their imperial, European homelands and to live as semi-nomadic farmers; vile colonialists eh?

They were treated as nothing more than filth by my government, something which I am terribly ashamed of as an Englishman. They were locked in camps, their farms were scorched and they were deliberately displaced.

Oh and only about 25% of their ancestry is from the Netherlands, most of their ancestry is German. Shows how much you know.

Yeah, the Boers are like the Acadians of Africa. Even down to the fact that the First Nations respected us and we respected them, boils the blood of people.

We were treated the same way by the English (displaced, farms scorched, etc.) as well.

[Stivenslivakovishhhs]

It's their country they are no reason to live it . And they are african now .

It was never their country to begin with. Their ancestors traveled OUT OF Africa. African ancestors did not. They dont belong there after what they have done.

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Boo hoo.

You all cry a river for damn Boers but dont give a fuck about the refuggees in your countries.

Skin color thicker than water?

[lionsiy]

Precisely. This history is suppressed in the West, people simply don't know that the Boer's ancestors arrived in the mid 17th century while Bantus didn't enter what became RSA until the late 18th century (1780 is the date given IIRC).

South African Bantus also (partially) descent from the Khoisan who have lived in South Africa for hundreds of thousands of years.

While the Boers have pretty much no Khoisan ancestry.

[bawayTeen]

Boers will never be African. Its best they just leave.

So what is the criteria for being African in your view? Being a Bantu? So maybe the Khoi Khoi and San bushmen are not good enough, they are rather light after all and so barely African at all, notwithstanding the fact they have been in southern African for millennia.

An objective analysis of the Boers history would strongly suggest that they are African.

1) Their ancestors deliberately severed all ties with their European history, many even deserted the Dutch Reformed Church and established their own.

2) They have been there since 1652, longer than many Americans can claim any of their ancestors have been in America.

3) Their language and customs developed on African soil not on European soil. Afrikaans and Dutch may be mutually intelligible but they are far from being the same language. Afrikaans incorporates words from non-European languages, including Malay. Even its European elements are far from purely Dutch, they are a mixture of Dutch, German (High Dutch) and French. For example Dutch has no double negative while Afrikaans does, this feature is a result of the French influence on the language.

4) The Boers, and Cape Dutch, have aboriginal African ancestry (i.e. Khoisan ancestry) which is more than can be said for Xhosas like terrorist Nelson Mandela and his pals. Who are they to 'forgive' the White man's presence in Africa?

5) The Boers have no other home, their ancestors were not wanted in Europe. So, logically their home must be Africa, although certain types don't want them there either.

And the above is just the start, people could fill entire books making out the Boer case for independence and 'Africaness'.

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South African Bantus also (partially) descent from the Khoisan who have lived in South Africa for hundreds of thousands of years.

While the Boers have pretty much no Khoisan ancestry.

Wrong!

[dumadegg]

^^^ Nelson Mandela has Khoisan mtDNA.

[dserbokim]

YesIsaidit , I would like to also bring to your attention that eventhough I am not denying the suffering of the Somalis bantus at the hands of their countrymen , I personally nor any of my brothers in our part of the Horn of Africa bear any responsibilty in that . We've only learned about the presence of "somalized bantus" in Somalia after the birth of the Somali Republic in 1960 when we joined it . Our "grazing lands" are as far distanced from each other as Quebec city{Canada} is to Savannah {GA} . We've never taken part in any of that shit .

I consider the Boers a tribe of Africa

[adunnyByday]

^^^ Nelson Mandela has Khoisan mtDNA.

Pretty much all South African Bantus have Khoisan ancestry (between 20% to 50%). The Boers don't even come close to this.

[Pznrrmaf]

Do you ever speak to Boers? Most do not consider themselves African and discriminate against the TRUE Africans. Again, just leave.

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Bantus are closer to Khoisan genetically than any damn Dutchman.

[Wheldcobchoto]

It was never their country to begin with. Their ancestors traveled OUT OF Africa. African ancestors did not. They dont belong there after what they have done.

What have they done? Enlighten me.

Boo hoo.

You all cry a river for damn Boers but dont give a fuck about the refuggees in your countries.

Skin color thicker than water?

Funny you should say that, the Boers did not care for the concept of Whiteness until we put the bloody idea into their heads. Who established the colour bar in RSA? The British. Who established the system of Apartheid, and later of separate development? A Dr. Hendrik Verwoerd, a Dutch immigrant and Cape Dutch hero (most ethnically conscious Boers have no time for him, e.g. Robert Van Tonder), did.

Don't get me wrong, the Boers held racist views in the early 19th century and earlier but the concept of a 'White race' was foreign to them, they twice fought and died against the English, their 'White brothers'.

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^^^ Nelson Mandela has Khoisan mtDNA.

I picked him as a prominent example of a Bantu, I apologise for being in error. My point remains, at the very least the Boers & Bantus share Khoisan ancestry.

[Ekzamenov]

OP is clearly a troll.

[tabcdyop]

Do you ever speak to Boers? Most do not consider themselves African and discriminate against the TRUE Africans. Again, just leave.[COLOR="Silver"]

No I found this information floating in the atmosphere. Of course I speak to Boers.

Many Boers would disagree with you, even the most 'racist' ones consider themselves African otherwise they would have kissed Africa goodbye and emigrated to the civilised world.

Bantus are closer to Khoisan genetically than any damn Dutchman.

Indeed, but we're not talking about the Dutch.