[Zhgrlpil]

Your thread wasn't derailed. I posted pictures of African women, no? And who are you to chose which women are to die for? I posted picture that were of relevance to the thread.

I said in my opening statement that "Im going to focus for the most part on the group that has caught my attention as of late, but feel free to contribute with pictures and links of other ethnic africans."

If you want to contribute you can post pictures here, I dont mind. That's the purpose of the thread.

[UnmariKam]

Sarah Riani , a real 'white' African layed by a Berber belly:

[Grewlybreekly]

berbers are not white

[bppstorr]

hot. kinda exotic looking for a white.

[Reatclaplen]

I asked for groups, you're only mentioning a bunch of remarkable individuals in that thread.

Are you kidding me?

Moors? Cafman was actually speaking of black Africans though.

North Africa's Moors were an amalgam of phenotypes, especially among the masmuda and sanhaja confederations who intermixed (more significantly) with saharans/sahelians.

There isn't any specific group in present day spain that is associate with them(meaning being direct descendants of the Moors). If there're still descendants of them in Spain, they must have been integrated in society.

Morocco's occupation worked much in the same manner the UK occupied South Africa. The majority of Iberia's Moors were largely indigenous Iberians and not Berbers/Arabized Berbers (from northern Africa). It matters not whether the small contigent of north Africans that were there, were eventually ousted, the point is that they were there, and dominated over a rather significant expanse of the Iberian peninsula for nearly 800 years. You don't know that whites in South Africa will always be there (especially with Zuma's administration which is mirroring Mugabe's, and Amin's before that).

Blacks migrating in Groups to the European continent is a pretty recent phenomenon.

As was white immigration to South Africa. Mass migrations came about during the years following apartheid, much in the same way that the waves of African immigration to Europe, occurred sometime after the second world war.

Anyway, I promised Fallschirmjäger to not derail the thread any longer, so I'd be glad to discuss this with you through PM.

Considering what you wrote, I felt compelled to post here. If you want to PM me, feel free to. The double standards regarding this subject will never cease anyway.

[Doctorpills]

this makes me think actually, how common are interracial relationships in Africa??? are they on the same level here as in north america???

[Inonanialry]

this makes me think actually, how common are interracial relationships in Africa??? are they on the same level here an in north america???

Not that common unless they're from upper classes.

[leadmoffer]

berbers are not white

hot. kinda exotic looking for a white.

You forget we are talking on African standards.

[Tamawaipsemek]

Egyptian beaty queen

[Uttephabeta]

Are you kidding me?

?

Could you mention a group of black people that have been in Europe since 1652 or before and have lived there ever since?

As was white immigration to South Africa. Mass migrations came about during the years following apartheid, much in the same way that the waves of African immigration to Europe, occurred sometime after the second world war. Nope White immigration to South-Africa was since 1652 and they've been there ever since, while (like you say) immigrations of Africans to Europe ('in masses'), and still live in Europe these days would be since the past 50 years. Which one is more recent?

Edit: I think you're misunderstanding my question
The question was whether there's a similiar group living in Europe as the Afrikaners are in South-Africa. Not whether blacks have left any 'marks' in European history

[wrardymar]

Pretoria


From Cape Town



From Port Elizabeth.


From Johannesburg

[SkatrySkith]

Than what the hell was your point?

Much in the same manner that South Africa has generally been populated by indigenous Africans.

NO, my friend. It does matter, because that was what I asked. My question was whether he could mention a group of black africans that have settled in Europe before(or during the same time) as the Afrikaners in South-Africa and still form a group untill this day(so similiar to Afrikaners)

Not exactly, since they, unlike the Anglo-Boers, were FAR LESS exogamic. Most of these individuals outmarried with indigenous Europeans. Eventually becoming indistinguishable from the norm. Considering how small the populations of Europeans in South Africa prior to 1950 were, the same thing would have happened had they also similarly outmarried. Coloureds themselves are overwhelmingly African on average (79%, mostly khoisan ancestry), which shows just how little the genetic imprint Europe had on the local pop.

Nope White immigration to South-Africa was since 1652 and they've been there ever since, while (like you say) immigrations of Africans to Europe ('in masses') would be since the past 50 years. Which one is more recent?

Nobody said immigration there hasn't been occurring since the mid 1600s. I said mass immigration, similar to the mass emigration we saw from Africa post world war 2.

1868 white pop., 565,000; early 1900's white pop., 1,116,805; 1948 white pop., 2,500,000; 1965 white pop., 3,408,000; 1980 white pop., 4,522,000

From 1868 to 1900 (32 years roughly) the pop grew by about 500 thousand. Then from 1900 to 1948 (48 years roughly) the pop grew by nearly 1.4 million. Yet, It only took seventeen years for the pop to grow by about that rate between 1948 and 1965. And only fifteen for it to grow by about 2 million or so between 1965 and 1980. These are consistent with emigration patterns from Europe to South Africa post world war 2. So many white South Africans, are indeed descendants of recent immigrants.

Besides, their culture is still largely European (there are near negligible African influences in their customs), whereas Africans that grow up in Europe don't exactly act like they do in Africa (no tribal rites of passage for the most part, etc). They more or less mirror their indigenous counterparts culturally. This has more merit, considering South Africans of European descent never assimilated (they failed to do so), they more or less attempted to impose their culture on the locals.

For the record, I'm aware of the religious zealots attempting to Islamify Europe. But they do not encompass the majority of Africans/middle easterners/south Asians, nor are all the ones attempting to do this, descendants of these groups. Some are ethnic Europeans that have converted and taken their conversion far too seriously.

[heinz_1966]

Johannesburg

Cape Town

Port Elizabeth

[envenonearo]

This beauty beats every white women posted on the thread:

Wow.

Now, thats what I call knock out power.


Ding, ding, ding !

And we have a winner !

It isn't a points decision. It's a K.O

It didn't last the 12 rounds . It couldn't last the distance - Not with her in it.




(And I'm outa here. Im punch drunk and outa here.)




*******

[Grizli]

Much in the same manner that South Africa has generally been populated by indigenous Africans.



Not exactly, since they, unlike the Anglo-Boers, were FAR LESS exogamic. Most of these individuals outmarried with indigenous Europeans. Eventually becoming indistinguishable from the norm. Considering how small the populations of Europeans in South Africa prior to 1950 were, the same thing would have happened had they also similarly outmarried. Coloureds themselves are overwhelmingly African on average (79%, mostly khoisan ancestry), which shows just how little the genetic imprint Europe had on the local pop.



Nobody said immigration there hasn't been occurring since the mid 1600s. I said mass immigration, similar to the mass emigration we saw from Africa post world war 2.

1868 white pop., 565,000; early 1900's white pop., 1,116,805; 1948 white pop., 2,500,000; 1965 white pop., 3,408,000; 1980 white pop., 4,522,000

From 1868 to 1900 (32 years roughly) the pop grew by about 500 thousand. Then from 1900 to 1948 (48 years roughly) the pop grew by nearly 1.4 million. Yet, It only took seventeen years for the pop to grow by about that rate between 1948 and 1965. And only fifteen for it to grow by about 2 million or so between 1965 and 1980. These are consistent with emigration patterns from Europe to South Africa post world war 2. So many white South Africans, are indeed descendants of recent immigrants.

You're confusing population growth for immigration, immigration is only one of the contributing factors of population growth. Take for instance the pop growth of china:
All due to immigration,right?
Population growth could be a result of improvement of the economy as well. You can't expect from a population to not grow at all, even without immigrations

Btw 1 million whites left the country after the apartheid Plus the great trek was during the 1830s and 1840s

Besides, their culture is still largely European (there are near negligible African influences in their customs), whereas Africans that grow up in Europe don't exactly act like they do in Africa (no tribal rites of passage for the most part, etc). They more or less mirror their indigenous counterparts culturally. This has more merit, considering South Africans of European descent never assimilated (they failed to do so), they more or less attempted to impose their culture on the locals

For the record, I'm aware of the religious zealots attempting to Islamify Europe. But they do not encompass the majority of Africans/middle easterners/south Asians, nor are all the ones attempting to do this, descendants of these groups. Some are ethnic Europeans that have converted and taken their conversion far too seriously. Most immigrants here are still 'loyal' to their culture too. I see you have already mentioned muslim groups(which are btw among the largest groups here- Turks and Moroccans). I would say the Surinamese are quite integrated, however Antilleans(another significant group) are often not. There are differences of course, the 2nd or third generations are not like the first one.

Besides immigrants in Europe are not comparable to Afrikaners: different circumstances. South-Africa was a European colony at the time. Afrikaners founded numerous republics there(like the Boer-republics fi, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boer_republics)

Afrikaners also don't identify as Dutch, German, british or French, but as Afrikaners. Most of the immigrants here identify with 'their country of origin'

[Tndfpcin]

I consider those women to be "African" because "African" hasn't any racial(ethnic connotation it's just a geographycal term "Africans" range from this


to this


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_j7nO4iNpcs...rif_Mounir.jpg


to this




to this

to this


so why not include Afrikaners??????????

[Meowmeowz]

She is African too, but returned to Portugal at a young age:

[Buincchotourbss]

so why not include Afrikaners??????????

Gosh... it's no the point.

I read childish comments in this thread... as if people do not see the troll.

It's the autor of the thread who seems to be obsessed by associating the word "african" with depigmented north european females. Maybe it makes his dick hard.

[nancywind]

Important cities founded by White Africans.

Bloemfontein

Bloemfontein (Dutch for "fountain of flowers" – lit., "blooms") is the capital city of the Free State Province of South Africa; and, as the judicial capital of the nation, one of South Africa's three national capitals – the other two being Cape Town, the legislative capital, and Pretoria, the administrative capital.

Bloemfontein was officially founded in 1846 as a fort by British army major Henry Douglas Warden as a British outpost. Cape Town

Cape Town (Afrikaans: Kaapstad; Xhosa: iKapa) is the second-most populous city in South Africa, and the provincial capital and primate city of the Western Cape. As the seat of the National Parliament, it is also the legislative capital of the country. It forms part of the City of Cape Town metropolitan municipality. The city is famous for its harbour as well as its natural setting in the Cape floral kingdom, including such well-known landmarks as Table Mountain and Cape Point. Cape Town is also Africa's most popular tourist destination.

Cape Town was founded in 1652 by Jan van Riebeeck. Pretoria

Pretoria is a city located in the northern part of Gauteng Province, South Africa. It is one of the country's three capital cities, serving as the executive (administrative) and de facto national capital; the others are Cape Town, the legislative capital, and Bloemfontein, the judicial capital.

Pretoria itself was founded in 1855 by Marthinus Pretorius, a leader of the Voortrekkers, who named it after his father Andries Pretorius.

[risyGreeple]

from what I have heard, the level of racial segregation in South Africa did not drop much from apartheid times. Its just less formalised.