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Old 05-17-2012, 04:07 AM   #1
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I couldn't tell differences between the 3 when I was younger
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Old 05-17-2012, 04:07 AM   #2
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Say what? Sounds like some Cocolo take on arroz con guandules. Never had such a concoction. Hey it could be! Sacame de la duda. They were very black dominicans that live in Madrid. Possibly from the eastern region of DR. Yours is like us? Just arroz con gandules??
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Old 05-17-2012, 04:09 AM   #3
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Son is Cuban and Salsa is ours weather it is the Ponce~no version or the Nuyorican version. Sad truth for all of you envious and hateful latin americans.

Chacho y el Son ese de Pedro Flores pone a dormir a las ovejas.
Salsa is not yalls.

If anything it's a fusion of PR and Cuban flavors.
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Old 05-17-2012, 04:10 AM   #4
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Denial is a hell of a drug Inquisitive. Keep saying that to yourself if you need to convinve yourself of it in order to be at peace.
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Old 05-17-2012, 04:14 AM   #5
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BTW, Raphael Hernandez learned how to compose music in Mexico.
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Old 05-17-2012, 04:16 AM   #6
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http://worldmusic.nationalgeographic...alsa_781/en_US

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How?

Read his biography.
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Old 05-17-2012, 04:18 AM   #7
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http://worldmusic.nationalgeographic...alsa_781/en_US

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How?

Read his biography.
That is the same thing my link said.
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Old 05-17-2012, 04:22 AM   #8
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Say what? Sounds like some Cocolo take on arroz con guandules. Never had such a concoction.
Yep, it's Cocolo (Easterner) and Southerner to a lesser extent. I remember having it when I went Azua as a kid, but never when venturing into the Cibao heartland, where chivo (goat) is king.

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I remember that I was very surprised to be served ''arroz con habichuelas'' when I traveled to Santo Domingo many years ago (9 years old). It tasted pretty much the same and they called it ''habichuelas'' not frijoles.
Didn't know you got to visit us already. :-D

Although I must say that I prefer the Santo Domingo of that era when you visited (early 90's) than the one now, even though the Poligono Central (National District proper) isn't that far from San Juan in terms of sophistication (though a lot dirtier).
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Old 05-17-2012, 04:41 AM   #9
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Barely remember things really. I remember going to some caves that had a Tarzan Dominicano diving in some underground lake or river. I remember the Hotel Quinto Centenario in front of the Malecon and little more. I will go back and hopefully meet you!
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Old 05-17-2012, 04:52 AM   #10
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They also.
Hispanic Caribbeans are more related to each other than to other Hispanic American.
I think that's true. After the revolution a few of my cousins moved to PR and they have been very happy and at home there. I've met a number of Puerto Ricans and I think there are many similarities; I think Cuba had a larger number of more recent Spanish immigrants and so I think we were a little more Spanish influenced (at least those who were from the western half of the isle, and certainly my family as most of the family came over on both sides in the post colonial period). I don't know any Dominicans but seeing from their posts, and my various interactions with some here, it seems that there are also many similar attitudes. I would love to visit PR and DR and will do so someday.
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Old 05-17-2012, 05:37 AM   #11
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Hey it could be! Sacame de la duda. They were very black dominicans that live in Madrid. Possibly from the eastern region of DR. Yours is like us? Just arroz con gandules??
Yea we just eat the Arroz, y Guandules with no coconut, I've just recently found out about some Dominicans using coconut in their foods. Also, many old Cibaenos say frijoles, instead of Habichuela. Anyways, for those of you who have eaten Arroz/Guandules with coconut, how did it taste? did you like it? my dad, and other Cibaenos who have tried the food, found it disgusting.
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Old 05-17-2012, 05:47 AM   #12
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Yea we just eat the Arroz, y Guandules with no coconut, I've just recently found out about some Dominicans using coconut in their foods. Also, many old Cibaenos say frijoles, instead of Habichuela. Anyways, for those of you who have eaten Arroz/Guandules with coconut, how did it taste? did you like it? my dad, and other Cibaenos who have tried the food, found it disgusting.
My family always cooked moro de guandules con coco, I thought it was a regular Dominican dish.

I've never liked it though

They used to also make fish with coco


http://www.dominicancooking.com/513-...d-coconut.html
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Old 05-17-2012, 05:50 AM   #13
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Hate the coco. Arroz con gandules should not have that in it.
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Old 05-17-2012, 06:10 AM   #14
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Yea we just eat the Arroz, y Guandules with no coconut, I've just recently found out about some Dominicans using coconut in their foods. Also, many old Cibaenos say frijoles, instead of Habichuela. Anyways, for those of you who have eaten Arroz/Guandules with coconut, how did it taste? did you like it? my dad, and other Cibaenos who have tried the food, found it disgusting.
The coconut tastes better with the fish than with the other things, specially the "salsa" around the fish, which tastes better than the "pollo guisado" that gets regularly done here with the arroz con habichuelas. Although I have developed an appreciation for fried fish on the last decade.
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Old 05-17-2012, 06:57 AM   #15
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Wow, how do they mix in the coco? I can't believe there are actually people who eat coco with rice and beans.

I like coco for the record, but with rice? eh no.
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:14 AM   #16
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Yea we just eat the Arroz, y Guandules with no coconut, I've just recently found out about some Dominicans using coconut in their foods. Also, many old Cibaenos say frijoles, instead of Habichuela. Anyways, for those of you who have eaten Arroz/Guandules with coconut, how did it taste? did you like it? my dad, and other Cibaenos who have tried the food, found it disgusting.
My family makes it, its actually not uncommon at all. Atleast in SFM and Pimentel ive been in many houses where its made like that. Its not always made like that, but on special occasions thei'll put coconut milk with the guandules. It taste great! But coconut is the type of thing people either love or hate. The difference is that in coastal areas they make coconut with guandules ALL the time, and they also do it to fish. Samana is the best well known for their coconut fetish, more then any part of the island, followed by puertoplata. But in the interior its not unknown, atleast not in SFM, DEFITNELY not in Nagua, i had coconut crab when i was in Nagua, at a family house, none of that touristy fake food stuff, lol. My mom cooks coconut rice on special occasions, tis mad good but not everyone in my family likes it. The best coconut rice ive had is by the thai's though.

Another coconut meal some of my fmaily makes is my family that came from "La Linea" on the western side of the cibao, they make something called Chenchen. My great grandmother made chenchen and my grandmother knows how to make it. This is from la linea because its only common in the south, and not common in the central or eastern cibao, or presetn at all. Its basically Corn flour wtih coconut milk made into large enough granules to kinda look like rice or oatmeal. Its eaten wtih Goat.

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So that i don't seem weird, heres another Francomacorisano who has family traditions of cooking wtih Coconut.

My family comes from San Fco. de Macoris and they are big on the coconut flavored food. I remember my mother used to cook Guandules con Coco on with white rice and "bacalao" with egg and potatoes for Semana Santa "Holy Week" or "Easter" , this was great. Also, she used to make white rice cooked with coconut milk. But the moro de guandules is really excellent, it is prepared the same way it usually is, just add coconut milk to the mix and you're good to go.
http://dr1.com/forums/general-stuff/...recipes-7.html

And here is a testimony from someone from Moca.

My husband's family is from Moca and they all cook moro de guandules con coco, especially on special occasions.
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:20 AM   #17
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Bueno lemba, neither me, my family, or any other sfm that I know ( i asked around), it sounds like some samana, cocolo dish. Quizas sera porque tu familia celebra mad la cultura Africana, pero no creo que eso es comun en San Francisco. San Francisco never had a high cocolo population like San Pedro or samana, so maybe you have a sameness in your family that introduced it.
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:27 AM   #18
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Bueno lemba, neither me, my family, or any other sfm that I know ( i asked around), it sounds like some samana, cocolo dish. Quizas sera porque tu familia celebra mad la cultura Africana, pero no creo que eso es comun en San Francisco. San Francisco never had a high cocolo population like San Pedro or samana, so maybe you have a sameness in your family that introduced it.
I'm not the only one though, that other person on the site says their family makes it. And a person married to a mocano. Im not saying Coconut based dishes are a staple in SFM but they are not rare. They are resreved for special occasoins, like cookouts, birthdays, or someone coming from NYC. We don't have any samanese ancestry atleast not recently. Thing is that there are parts of SFM that are heavy on coconuts, when i was goign through the campos you wuold see alot of coconut trees, and theres plenty of coconut sellers on the street in SFM, so its not hard for people to have started making dishes out of it. It coudl be of cocolo and samanese influence, because remember there was a railroad from Sanchez Samana that passed through SFm and continude on to La Vega. ALso remember that the local beach for Francomacorisanos is Nagua, and Nagua is heavy on coconut dishes as well. I'm sure there was plenty of geneflow between sanchez, nagua and sfm, and maybe thats how those dishes reached some families. I don't think its that rare, now CHENCHEN is not even knownk in SFM, ive asked around, but i only know about it cause my grandma is moca + linea and her liniera mom made it.
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:30 AM   #19
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Another coconut meal some of my fmaily makes is my family that came from "La Linea" on the western side of the cibao, they make something called Chenchen. My great grandmother made chenchen and my grandmother knows how to make it. This is from la linea because its only common in the south, and not common in the central or eastern cibao, or presetn at all. Its basically Corn flour wtih coconut milk made into large enough granules to kinda look like rice or oatmeal. Its eaten wtih Goat.
Not all places in La Linea have Chenchen, cuz' I never got to taste it during my childhood in Mao and in Sabaneta, although I wouldn't be surprised if it were to be common in Montecristi and Dajabon. The first time I ate it, though, was in the household of a friend in San Juan de la Maguana. One have to eat it with jar of water on the side, though, cuz' it can make one be mad thirsty.
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:32 AM   #20
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Not al places in La Linea have Chenchen, cuz' I never got to taste it during my childhood there and in Sabaneta, although I wouldn't be surprised if it were to be common in Montecristi and Dajabon. The first time I ate, though, was in the household of a friend in San Juan de la Maguana. One have to eat it with jar of water on the side, though, cuz' it can make one be mad thirsty.
Yeah i was very surprised to even hear about it, i made my grandmother repeat it like 10 times, for real u make chenchen? but isn't your mom from la linea, i was confused. LOL turns out her family did, but i ma not sure where in La Linea they are from. They also make Maiz Cakeado. Which is kidna like the Dominican versoin of a Tamale.
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