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Old 05-17-2012, 03:30 AM   #1
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Default Are Puerto Ricans And Dominicans Culturally Similar?
We've debated their phenotypes time and time again, but what about culturally? Are they similar?
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Old 05-17-2012, 03:31 AM   #2
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Yes, we have the same Euro, Afro and Taino ancestries, myabe their Native is more diverse as we didn't had Macoriges and Ciguayo Natives here, but overall yes, we are similar i cuisine music and most of our cultures.
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Old 05-17-2012, 03:32 AM   #3
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Yes, we have the same Euro, Afro and Taino ancestries, myabe their Native is more diverse as we didn't had Macoriges and Ciguayo Natives here, but overall yes, we are similar i cuisine music and most of our cultures.
What about Cubans?
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Old 05-17-2012, 03:33 AM   #4
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What about Cubans?
They also.
Hispanic Caribbeans are more related to each other than to other Hispanic American.
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Old 05-17-2012, 03:36 AM   #5
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They also.
Hispanic Caribbeans are more related to each other than to other HIspanic American.
But I thought Cubans were distant from PR and DR.
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Old 05-17-2012, 03:38 AM   #6
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Yeah pretty much. For example, I thought Mofongo was a Dominican dish, but it's actually Puerto Rican. It is so popular with us, that I thought it was originally Dominican.
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Old 05-17-2012, 03:42 AM   #7
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I remember that I was very surprised to be served ''arroz con habichuelas'' when I traveled to Santo Domingo many years ago (9 years old). It tasted pretty much the same and they called it ''habichuelas'' not frijoles.

Cuban food was very similar too specially ''moros con cristianos'' which we do eat in my family though not as regularly. There are some notable differences though. For example our ''arroz con gandules'' does not have coconut while the ''arroz con guandules" domincans make does.

Musically Cuba and PR have lots of similarities too while our music springs from the same roots (Guracha Espa~nola, Son rythms, and our respective Salsa though the latter is more PR than Cuban) they developed mostly in isolation and grew apart till they reunited when Cubans started accepting Salsa's overthrowing of Son Montuno.

Dominicans however influenced us culturally so greatly with their Merengue making it a staple on the Island just as it is happening with Bachata and happened over there with reggaeton. In that sense, I see more hybridization between DR and PR, specially after the 80's.

Accents overlap with both islands. Average PR's speak more similar to Cubans while there are some regions in PR where people speak faster more like the Dominicans.
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Old 05-17-2012, 03:43 AM   #8
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Yeah pretty much. For example, I thought Mofongo was a Dominican dish, but it's actually Puerto Rican. It is so popular with us, that I thought it was originally Dominican.
Mangu is the Dominican one.
Also "Moro"
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Old 05-17-2012, 03:43 AM   #9
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Mofongo is ours Mangu is yours Ironically I prefer Mangus softer more ''mantequilloso'' texture.
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Old 05-17-2012, 03:46 AM   #10
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I remember that I was very surprised to be served ''arroz con habichuelas'' when I traveled to Santo Domingo many years ago (9 years old). It tasted pretty much the same and they called it ''habichuelas'' not frijoles.

Cuban food was very similar too specially ''moros con cristianos'' which we do eat in my family though not as regularly. There are some notable differences though. For example our ''arroz con gandules'' does not have coconut while the ''arroz con guandules" domincans make does.

Musically Cuba and PR have lots of similarities too while our music springs from the same roots (Guracha Espa~nola, Son rythms, and our respective Salsa though the latter is more PR than Cuban) they developed mostly in isolation and grew apart till they reunited when Cubans started accepting Salsa's overthrowing of Son Montuno.

Dominicans however influenced us culturally so greatly with their Merengue making it a staple on the Island just as it is happening with Bachata and happened over there with reggaeton. In that sense, I see more hybridization between DR and PR, specially after the 80's.

Accents overlap with both islands. Average PR's speak more similar to Cubans while there are some regions in PR where people speak faster more like the Dominicans.
I don't think PR made Son music.
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Old 05-17-2012, 03:47 AM   #11
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I don't think PR made Son music.
He didn't say we made it, he said Salsa was PR, not Cuban son
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Old 05-17-2012, 03:48 AM   #12
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He didn't say we made it, he said Salsa was PR, not Cuban son
Salsa is Cuban music.
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Old 05-17-2012, 03:50 AM   #13
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They contributed but Cubans did. We already spoke about it and I even posted a chart where more than 10% of La Sonora Matancera's musicians and even their lead female singer were PR. Also Rafael Hernandez contributed plenty of his composition to what would later become Son. So we have an important imprint on it too particularly because that cultural influence always reached back to PR and PR's wer making similar ryth,s which ended up in Ponce~o salsa which integrated Bomba y Plena. A style that never had anything to do with the Salsa PR's in New York started to make out of the mix of cuban and american rythms, that latter style had the hand of a dominican in Pachecho.
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Old 05-17-2012, 03:52 AM   #14
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Salsa is Cuban music.
Err nope, is from Newyoricans to be more exact, a pan latin music.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salsa_music
Salsa music is a general term referring to what is essentially Cuban popular dance music created outside of Cuba.[4][5] Salsa was initially recorded, promoted and marketed in New York City during the 1970s. The various musical genres comprising salsa include the Cuban son montuno, guaracha, chachachá, mambo, bolero and, to a lesser degree, non-Cuban genres such as the Puerto Rican bomba and plena, the Dominican merengue, and the Colombian cumbia. Latin jazz, which was also developed in New York City, has had a significant influence on salsa arrangers, piano guajeos, and instrumental soloists.[6] Salsa occasionally incorporates elements from North American rock, R&B, and funk.[7] All of these non-Cuban elements are grafted onto the basic Cuban son montuno template when performed within the context of salsa.[8]
The first salsa bands were predominantly "Nuyorican" (New Yorkers of Puerto Rican descent).[9][10][11] The music eventually spread throughout the Western Hemisphere, becoming a pan-Latin American music with its own cultural identity.[12] Ultimately, salsa's popularity spread globally. Some of the founding salsa artists include Johnny Pacheco (the creator of the Fania All-Stars), Ray Barretto, Willie Colón, Larry Harlow, Roberto Roena, Bobby ValentÃ*n, and Eddie Palmieri.[13]
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Old 05-17-2012, 03:53 AM   #15
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Inquisitive you are such a vulgar troll. I already posted more than 5 different Cuban musicologists SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT SAYING SALSA was not Cuban. I even posted a Gloria Estefan quote confirming it. Why do you keep beating a dead horse? Is it so hard for you to swallow that we are responsible for possibly the greatest latin american music genre? It must really work you up that wee bee tiny PR has done something so great that you enjoy. You must credit it to cubans so that you can freely enjoy it without disgust because you probably have a problem with PR's...THE REST IS DENIAL!
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Old 05-17-2012, 04:03 AM   #16
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They contributed but Cubans did. We already spoke about it and I even posted a chart where more than 10% of La Sonora Matancera's musicians and even their lead female singer were PR. Also Rafael Hernandez contributed plenty of his composition to what would later become Son. So we have an important imprint on it too particularly because that cultural influence always reached back to PR and PR's wer making similar ryth,s which ended up in Ponce~o salsa which integrated Bomba y Plena. A style that never had anything to do with the Salsa PR's in New York started to make out of the mix of cuban and american rythms, that latter style had the hand of a dominican in Pachecho.
PR had nothing to do with Cuban Son. Most Sons were of Cuban compositions.

Raphael was just one of the few great composers from Latin America. There are tons of Mexican Mariachis and Rancheras of Raphael Hernandez. Does that mean he is responsible for creating Mexican music?

This is the only PR son I know of.
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Old 05-17-2012, 04:04 AM   #17
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Old 05-17-2012, 04:05 AM   #18
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For example our ''arroz con gandules'' does not have coconut while the ''arroz con guandules" domincans make does.
Say what? Sounds like some Cocolo take on arroz con guandules. Never had such a concoction.
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Old 05-17-2012, 04:06 AM   #19
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Son is Cuban and Salsa is ours weather it is the Ponce~no version or the Nuyorican version. Sad truth for all of you envious and hateful latin americans.

Chacho y el Son ese de Pedro Flores pone a dormir a las ovejas.
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Old 05-17-2012, 04:06 AM   #20
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BTW, Raphael Hernandez learned how to compose music in Mexico.
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