[DoctoBuntonTen]

These are articles from the Afro Puerto Rican Cultural Center that explains the racial reality in PR society(the originals were in Spanish but I used Google Translate for the english version)

Denial = Racism

Racism in Puerto Rico is institutionalized and operates natural and normal in social spaces. This is manifested in a perceptible and that populations are unable to perceive it. Sometimes you think that racism is a thing of the past in our society, but really ... what is promoted invisibilisación of black people. In the XXI century people in Puerto Rico is defined as white. It also maintains the vision where wellness, beauty and happiness are related to everything that moves away from the phenotypic characteristics of the African ancestors Relevance = Not Racism

Blackness does not exist between the Puerto Rican , is known to be black . Puerto Ricans have adopted a particular aesthetic and a body construction that responds to physical models Anglos. Ultimately, required to deny any hint aesthetic body or experi ... ence of heredity and African presence in the Puerto Rican alienated or escape social situations. Television has become a major source of image production in Puerto Rico that allows people to abstain and to reassert ideological and socially constructed worldviews. On television has been submitted to black people and foreign. The message we want to lead society in Puerto Rico is that there are no blacks and there are foreigners. In the 80's the message changes in Puerto Rico saying that blacks who are are Dominican. Those causes are obvious discrimination and rejection of the Dominican community are saying that black in Puerto Rico and attributing gross characteristics, criminal and social scum. This results in conditions of poverty within the social hierarchy as being devalued is mistrust, danger and lust. Whitening = Racism

It is a process by which, consciously or unconsciously, they are deleted, hiding or blurring phenotypic characteristics that identify a person or group belonging to the black race and ethnicity seem to appear Caucasian. One way that has been used in Puerto Rico has been the ... ibujar desd blackness of black Puerto Rican figures models of national pride. As Emeritus Ramon Betances, Julia de Burgos, Jose Celso Barbosa, or simply ignore or overlook the existence and contributions of pampering. Our inability to see us as a people and our black Caribbean fantasy island'' call'' whitest of the Antilles (Boulon, 1971, William & Cobbs, Price, 1992, Rodriguez & Preciad 1995, Toledo M. XXVII). Recognizing our Caribbean identity means recognizing that the Caribbean identity unites us, not only geographically but also in inheritance and ethnically and racially black presence in all aspects of the work of our lives. In Puerto Rico people of darker skin tones are invisibilities. This is evident in the absence of representation in positions or economic capacity. The presence of Black people has wide representation in Puerto Rican prisons. Black people in their range of colors, show difficulties to identify and recognize ethnic and racially. Minimizing = racism

The minimization is how to justify and validate the positions of the privileged as superior and qualified technical assumption of the invalidation, reductionism and ridicule, representing reliability, strength and legitimacy of the other. This strategy has been widely used to degrade and diminish ... the strength of black individuals and groups in social and political movements. Caquito's character is an example in the visual media in Puerto Rico. This character represents a black child boliador with limited intelligence, who also both its name and its expressions are continuous reference to fecal esses. In the town of Loiza for example, various religious and political groups have insisted on eliminating the typical attributing vejigante mask representing the devil. This also often perceived poor Puerto Rican presence of black heritage crafts at festivals. People attribute the failure to buy it is against the religious or mystical objects that are owned by black religious entities. This phenomenon is repeated in sales of Haitian and African crafts in the country.

[Seisyvose]

Jibaro, you said in another thread today that PR recognizes its mix though? Elaborate on this. So they recognize a BLACK PAST but not a BLACK PRESENT PRESENCE?

[Tarrccrys]

Jibaro, you said in another thread today that PR recognizes its mix though? Elaborate on this. So they recognize a BLACK PAST but not a BLACK PRESENT PRESENCE?

It varies, yes, we recognize we are mixed, but still some people see repulsive anything related to African culture, appearance, as I said, being dark skinned and having rough hair is not the preference of PRs but the opposite, I also have told about the subtle racism, the first article states it.To be more clear, we accept our black ancestry, but we don't prefer it over the Euro one, it is not the same to accept it and liking it.

[DeilMikina]

Sounds like some Colombians I know.

[Eagevawax]

It is much more complex thant that google translated thing...

[Mymnnarry]

It is much more complex thant that google translated thing...

Go ahead and articulate about how complex it is

[Erunsenef]

Okay

[chadnezzrr]

First not everyone is mixed like this article suggests. Second those who are mixed identify with one culture predomintaely, be it canarian or Peninsular derived PR culture which is different from more afro influenced PR culture. For example, when all PR's get together you will usually see Bomba and Plena played together because it unites us in festivities. But the Bombas are usually better known by the more afro people than by the average PR or the White PR's, even the lyrics and such.

There are PR's from average to White PR's who don't identify with Bomba but with ''Seis Chorriao'' which is plainly canarian derived and ''Nueva trova''. They don't necessarily shun afro culture, they just don't have it. Ironically we all eat PR cuisine which has a strong african element to it and some Taino.

What seems to be the common case is that the afro culture is not valued as much as the euro or canarian culture. That is only a case of having more Spanish culture and more spanish heritage.

I acknowledge my 1/18th (6%) west/central african ancestry, but that is after genetic tests. No one in my family taught me to value it and it does not have anything to do with racism directly speaking, they just did not identify with it. Even the Taino which is more prominent (1/8) in me was not taught directly. I always heard a favorable bias toward being visibly taino influenced than black influenced, because of the hair and melding of the features would be easier. PLenty of PR's who inherited a tiny amount of west african unseen to the eye inherited just by mating with other PR's who did not look to have any SSA physically either, so how can they identify with afro culture other than with what is included in the PR general culture which does embraces it but recognizes it as a minor contribution.

Also, we must take into account that people associate afro culture with paganism. The closer you are to paganism the further you are from god, even more so in a very Catholic society.

Besides what was considered previously I dont see how we dont respect or value the afro contribution culturally speaking since we enjoy afro derived or influenced music and we dance to it too equally as good as black PR's. Genetically we identify by what we see and the average PR, if you take me as a proxy and you said it yourself that my percentages where average, then it would be very hard to see how we must identify more with it than with Spanish culture.

I did the test by the way and told a Spaniard I was 10% black of which half was from slave and the other half from Sephardi Jews who mated in antiquity with East Africans. The guy just lol'ed at me and did not take it seriously, thought I was bragging. So it is really hard, and the people who usually write such inane babble are afro centric Puertoricans who look afro influenced but are probably much more EURO/MENA genetically.

[Rurcextedutty]

Besides what was considered previously I dont see how we dont respect or value the afro contribution culturally speaking since we enjoy afro derived or influenced music and we dance to it too equally as good as black PR's.

But that is it, people enjoy the dancing but some don't even know were that came from, they know it is a PR music, but don't truly value the African heritage behind it and still doesn't tell that many of us love Afro culture.

[reervieltnope]

Many love afro culture inserted into the PR general culture but not Afro Culture separately.

[Adamdjeffe]

Many love afro culture inserted into the PR general culture but not Afro Culture separately.

Makes sense

[clorkergo]

To be clear what many PR love is the dancing and salsa and stuff, but not the culture itself.

[drycleden]

I really doubt my black PR friend has less of a chance at things in life because of his skin color like in getting a job or something. That is not true. They are the same as any other mixed looking or not. It just coincides that plenty of the more admixed people are poor which is a correlative but not anything more. Even mulattoish PR's like Pierluisis son is dating a blue eyed red hair PR female from Guaynabo, the most openly racist pred white town. I think this discourses are still clinging to a past and are not noticing the future.

[ricochettty]

First not everyone is mixed like this article suggests. Second those who are mixed identify with one culture predomintaely, be it canarian or Peninsular derived PR culture which is different from more afro influenced PR culture. For example, when all PR's get together you will usually see Bomba and Plena played together because it unites us in festivities. But the Bombas are usually better known by the more afro people than by the average PR or the White PR's, even the lyrics and such.

There are PR's from average to White PR's who don't identify with Bomba but with ''Seis Chorriao'' which is plainly canarian derived and ''Nueva trova''. They don't necessarily shun afro culture, they just don't have it. Ironically we all eat PR cuisine which has a strong african element to it and some Taino.

What seems to be the common case is that the afro culture is not valued as much as the euro or canarian culture. That is only a case of having more Spanish culture and more spanish heritage.

I acknowledge my 1/18th (6%) west/central african ancestry, but that is after genetic tests. No one in my family taught me to value it and it does not have anything to do with racism directly speaking, they just did not identify with it. Even the Taino which is more prominent (1/8) in me was not taught directly. I always heard a favorable bias toward being visibly taino influenced than black influenced, because of the hair and melding of the features would be easier. PLenty of PR's who inherited a tiny amount of west african unseen to the eye inherited just by mating with other PR's who did not look to have any SSA physically either, so how can they identify with afro culture other than with what is included in the PR general culture which does embraces it but recognizes it as a minor contribution.

Also, we must take into account that people associate afro culture with paganism. The closer you are to paganism the further you are from god, even more so in a very Catholic society.

Besides what was considered previously I dont see how we dont respect or value the afro contribution culturally speaking since we enjoy afro derived or influenced music and we dance to it too equally as good as black PR's. Genetically we identify by what we see and the average PR, if you take me as a proxy and you said it yourself that my percentages where average, then it would be very hard to see how we must identify more with it than with Spanish culture.

I did the test by the way and told a Spaniard I was 10% black of which half was from slave and the other half from Sephardi Jews who mated in antiquity with East Africans. The guy just lol'ed at me and did not take it seriously, thought I was bragging. So it is really hard, and the people who usually write such inane babble are afro centric Puertoricans who look afro influenced but are probably much more EURO/MENA genetically.

Source?

That may happen or it could also be predominantly SSA PR becoming aware of their society. A Roberto Clemente cannot write such a thing?

[horaAppagob]

I really doubt my black PR friend has less of a chance at things in life because of his skin color like in getting a job or something. That is not true. They are the same as any other mixed looking or not. It just coincides that plenty of the more admixed people are poor which is a correlative but not anything more. Even mulattoish PR's like Pierluisis son is dating a blue eyed red hair PR female from Guaynabo, the most openly racist pred white town. I think this discourses are still clinging to a past and are not noticing the future.

That I know, our racism is subtle, there is not hardcore discrimination here but we have to accept that we have some prejudices.

[bobibnoxx]

Source? Life in P.R.

[Soadiassy]

Source? Life in P.R.

About the author of the article:
The person who manages this project ideological and Edwin Velazquez Collazo is cybernetic, Artist and Afro-Puerto Rican Cultural Manager of Visual Arts is born in the town of San Mateo Crab, the only people of Puerto Rico founded by people from Black, (Santurce), Puerto Rico. Conrado Velazquez My father is the town of Humacao especially Mambiche Quarter Anton Ruiz Prieto. My mother Herminia Collazo the town of Corozal. Both black proudly.

[katetomson]

Source? Life in P.R.

so there must be a reason those AfroMIXED PR you known IRL feel this way and are passionate enough to write about it.

[PetraCromlich]

so there must be a reason those AfroMIXED PR you known IRL feel this way and are passionate enough to write about it.

You can see a lot of youtube videos about these issues, as I have posted some on this board

[Imihooniump]

You can see a lot of youtube videos about these issues, as I have posted some on this board

And how do you feel about it?