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Old 09-21-2012, 12:10 PM   #1
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hes' failed the eyeball test. It cannot be reversed.
Conflicting statements from officials are not ideal, but are also not disallowed.
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:17 PM   #2
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Philadelphia Eagles
Post-draft grade: C+
Summary: The Eagles targeted needs, but I didn't think the value was great. Danny Watkins looks like a solid guard after really struggling early in the season, but again, this is a guy you drafted to play guard at No. 22 overall -- there's an expectation that he can be successful early. Jaiquawn Jarrett saw action in 12 games, but I thought he might be the clear starter by this point. Casey Matthews was a reach and saw some time, but he has a ways to go and probably isn't a starting linebacker for a competitive team. Dion Lewis looks like a player who will help this team, but you expect running back value late. The sixth round provided some obvious value. Elsewhere, Alex Henery proved to be a good pick -- he went 24-of-27 on field goals after Philly showed a lot of faith by taking him at No. 120 overall and letting David Akers walk. Not a terrible draft, as some of these guys got experience, but a little light on impact right now.

New grade: C
Not sure how Henery was a good pick, but alright.
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:34 PM   #3
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Did the Eagles replace the Lions in the NFC North?
Pnk demanded to know how the rest of the NFCN did in the Lions forum, as the Lions fans were only discussing the Lions.
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:39 PM   #4
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this is why we needed our council last year. A year too late obviously.
I shall use it this year to help quell the strange fears of Jeffrey.
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:54 PM   #5
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I shall use it this year to help quell the strange fears of Jeffrey.
hes' failed the eyeball test. It cannot be reversed.
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Old 09-21-2012, 04:24 PM   #6
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How about the Eagles? F?
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Old 09-21-2012, 04:51 PM   #7
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didn't he punch that Nebraska player in the eyeball?
He did get in a fight, yes
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Old 09-21-2012, 04:53 PM   #8
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He grades the Packers Higher than I would.

C- on Sherrod. Although shorted camp hurt him. Injury isn't his fault, but it factors in. Certainly can't say it is a strike in his favor either.

A+ on Cobb, filled a need, and looks like a keeper.

Smith is a solid B.

Williams, House, Green, Taylor appear to be decent projects for the future. C's

An F on the guys who didn't make the club.

Incomplete on Lawrence Guy. Never saw him play

B-

B if you incldude free agents, especially Saine.
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Old 09-21-2012, 05:46 PM   #9
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Hey! You! Schlauder off!

wasn't that conditional pick?
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Old 09-21-2012, 08:41 PM   #10
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Hey! You! Schlauder off!

wasn't that conditional pick?
He stuck with them all year. Even got a start.

I'm guessing the condition was met.
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:22 PM   #11
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Philadelphia Eagles
Post-draft grade: C+
Summary: The Eagles targeted needs, but I didn't think the value was great. Danny Watkins looks like a solid guard after really struggling early in the season, but again, this is a guy you drafted to play guard at No. 22 overall -- there's an expectation that he can be successful early. Jaiquawn Jarrett saw action in 12 games, but I thought he might be the clear starter by this point. Casey Matthews was a reach and saw some time, but he has a ways to go and probably isn't a starting linebacker for a competitive team. Dion Lewis looks like a player who will help this team, but you expect running back value late. The sixth round provided some obvious value. Elsewhere, Alex Henery proved to be a good pick -- he went 24-of-27 on field goals after Philly showed a lot of faith by taking him at No. 120 overall and letting David Akers walk. Not a terrible draft, as some of these guys got experience, but a little light on impact right now.

New grade: C
Did the Eagles replace the Lions in the NFC North?
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:57 PM   #12
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How about the Eagles? F?
Philadelphia Eagles
Post-draft grade: C+
Summary: The Eagles targeted needs, but I didn't think the value was great. Danny Watkins looks like a solid guard after really struggling early in the season, but again, this is a guy you drafted to play guard at No. 22 overall -- there's an expectation that he can be successful early. Jaiquawn Jarrett saw action in 12 games, but I thought he might be the clear starter by this point. Casey Matthews was a reach and saw some time, but he has a ways to go and probably isn't a starting linebacker for a competitive team. Dion Lewis looks like a player who will help this team, but you expect running back value late. The sixth round provided some obvious value. Elsewhere, Alex Henery proved to be a good pick -- he went 24-of-27 on field goals after Philly showed a lot of faith by taking him at No. 120 overall and letting David Akers walk. Not a terrible draft, as some of these guys got experience, but a little light on impact right now.

New grade: C
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:19 PM   #13
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Looking back, I was wrong about Brooks Reed.

Should have grabbed him at 32.

Took over for Mario Williams and had 6 Sacks and 44 tacckles in 11 games.

Had another sack last week.

I think I will change that 32nd pick grade to a D
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:30 PM   #14
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Default Kiper ReAssessment NFC North (for Pnk)
Chicago Bears
Post-draft grade: B
Summary: Health is a big factor, but this draft class really hasn't done much thus far. Gabe Carimi could pan out at right tackle and had the job coming out of camp, but he was lost after the second game. There's no telling whether he'll be able to move to the left side. Stephen Paea is a player who should continue to develop under Rod Marinelli, but he was a part-timer this season for an improved defensive line. Chris Conte was able to work his way onto the first team at safety, but that was a clear weakness for Chicago, and it accounts for the best production out of this class to this point. Some good need picks, but it's pretty fair to say the ceiling isn't high right now.

New grade: C

Green Bay Packers
Post-draft grade: B+
Summary: When you look at contributions from the rookie class, Green Bay's really had to be graded on a curve. Consider the context. Here was a team coming off a Super Bowl win with more than a dozen players on injured reserve. The team wasn't headed into the draft looking for players to fill major roles. And even then, the Packers found contributors. Derek Sherrod couldn't win a starting role but should get there at some point. Randall Cobb worked his way into a deep group of wide receivers and was a major threat in the return game. That said, I was a little surprised the Packers didn't target a high-ceiling outside linebacker, and the pass rush has fallen off some this season. That was my No. 1 listed need. They added Davon House to the secondary, and he was at least able to see some reps. One good find on defense was D.J. Smith, a sixth-rounder who played in all 16 games and looks like a keeper and potential long-term starter. Considering what they already had in place, not a bad draft.

New grade: B

Minnesota Vikings
Post-draft grade: C+
Summary: When you think you're drafting the quarterback of the future for the franchise, you take your shot. That's what the Vikings did at No. 12 when they drafted Christian Ponder. I had that as a reach on my board, but Ponder showed some things in 2011. Still, it was for a team that was far less competitive than we thought it would be, and, as the season finished, I even heard questions about whether the team should give Joe Webb a shot. Are the Vikings confident they can compete in 2012 with Ponder at the helm? Kyle Rudolph is a talented player and should be a weapon in that offense; he certainly has mastered the one-handed catch. After that, it's pretty quiet. Christian Ballard got reps, but I don't see him as an impact player. Overall, this is still an incomplete for me as we wait on Ponder. But hopefully we'll see some development from the other picks, too.

New grade: C-
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Old 09-22-2012, 12:15 AM   #15
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this is why we needed our council last year. A year too late obviously.
No shit
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Old 09-22-2012, 01:06 AM   #16
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Looking back, I was wrong about Brooks Reed.

Should have grabbed him at 32.

Took over for Mario Williams and had 6 Sacks and 44 tacckles in 11 games.

Had another sack last week.

I think I will change that 32nd pick grade to a D
this is why we needed our council last year. A year too late obviously.
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Old 09-22-2012, 01:36 AM   #17
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Pnk demanded to know how the rest of the NFCN did in the Lions forum.
I didn't demand, I asked, since it's an insider article. And thankfully Mad put in the general forum for me.
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Old 09-22-2012, 03:34 AM   #18
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hes' failed the eyeball test. It cannot be reversed.
didn't he punch that Nebraska player in the eyeball?
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Old 09-22-2012, 05:17 AM   #19
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He grades the Packers Higher than I would.

C- on Sherrod. Although shorted camp hurt him. Injury isn't his fault, but it factors in. Certainly can't say it is a strike in his favor either.

A+ on Cobb, filled a need, and looks like a keeper.

Smith is a solid B.

Williams, House, Green, Taylor appear to be decent projects for the future. C's

An F on the guys who didn't make the club.

Incomplete on Lawrence Guy. Never saw him play

B-

B if you incldude free agents, especially Saine.
They got a draft pick for Schlauderoff, though. So I put that one at a wash.

A big consideration is that this draft went a long way to fixing what was the biggest hole on the team going into the season, with Taylor, Cobb, and Smith (along with Saine, Lattimore, and Jennings among the undrafted) really providing a big lift to special teams.
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