[sobre]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6557162

The 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in St. Louis has granted NFL owners' request for a permanent stay of a prior ruling halting their lockout.
The 8th Circuit originally granted the league a temporary stay on April 29, four days after U.S. District Judge Susan Richard Nelson lifted the lockout. The order means the lockout remains in effect until the NFL's full appeal of Nelson's ruling is heard on June 3.
The court's decision comes on the same day the two sides resumed court-ordered mediation in Minneapolis. It was the fifth day of talks in front of U.S. Magistrate Judge Arthur Boylan, but the first since April 20.

[gactanync]

Well thats not good.. For the players anyway.

[Drugsonl]

Fuck the 8th circuit court.

[hellenmoranov]

The harm to the players will be limited due to an expedited appeal schedule. As this case will be decided before the season even starts.

This is actually good news as the court recognizes the importance of getting this resolved in short order.

[adverwork]

The harm to the players will be limited due to an expedited appeal schedule. As this case will be decided before the season even starts.

This is actually good news as the court recognizes the importance of getting this resolved in short order.

I suppose they see harm in having a period with no certain rules which will let the owners do what owners inevitably do.

Which is to overpay marginal free agents and then blame the players for being greedy.

[desmond001]

I suppose they see harm in having a period with no certain rules which will let the owners do what owners inevitably do.

Which is to overpay marginal free agents and then blame the players for being greedy.

This ruling by the 8th Court of Appeals concerns ONLY the ability of the court to enjoin the lockout.

There was no opinion expressed regarding decertification of the Union.

That said, when the 8th Circuit makes its decision, THEN we will see just how close, or FAR, we will be from watching the Packers defend their title.

[QYD8eQ8F]

The harm to the players will be limited due to an expedited appeal schedule. As this case will be decided before the season even starts.

This is actually good news as the court recognizes the importance of getting this resolved in short order.

I doubt it will be solved before the season starts. It will be legal back and forth, and a lot of "I don't like that judgement, I want to appeal" bullshit.

[lorrieholdridge]

I doubt it will be solved before the season starts. It will be legal back and forth, and a lot of "I don't like that judgement, I want to appeal" bullshit.

ALOT of it has to do with how the court decides on the NFL Owners being able to get at the TV Rights $$ for an upcoming season that is in doubt of even being played.

If the Court decides against the Owners having access to that money, the Owners will REALLY be behind the 8 ball. Most have HUGE debts to pay off on a monthly basis and no way to pay them off save for getting an agreement done.

The NFL generates roughly $400 million for a weekend of NFL football. I just do not see either side wanting to jeopardize the Golden Goose.

[Jenisoisy]

ALOT of it has to do with how the court decides on the NFL Owners being able to get at the TV Rights $$ for an upcoming season that is in doubt of even being played.

If the Court decides against the Owners having access to that money, the Owners will REALLY be behind the 8 ball. Most have HUGE debts to pay off on a monthly basis and no way to pay them off save for getting an agreement done.

The NFL generates roughly $400 million for a weekend of NFL football. I just do not see either side wanting to jeopardize the Golden Goose.

This is where I'm truly crossing my fingers. As far as I'm concerned this would be unearned revenue on services they have no intention of fulfilling. Take that money away and we will see just how willing the owners will be to making a deal.

[IvJlNwum]

ALOT of it has to do with how the court decides on the NFL Owners being able to get at the TV Rights $$ for an upcoming season that is in doubt of even being played.

If the Court decides against the Owners having access to that money, the Owners will REALLY be behind the 8 ball. Most have HUGE debts to pay off on a monthly basis and no way to pay them off save for getting an agreement done.

The NFL generates roughly $400 million for a weekend of NFL football. I just do not see either side wanting to jeopardize the Golden Goose.

That's already been decided. What's in question is how much, if any, the league owes the players.

The NFL litigation train heads back to Minnesota

Posted by Mike Florio on May 12, 2011, 7:26 AM EDT

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On March 1, Judge David Doty concluded that the NFL violated the now-expired Collective Bargaining Agreement by leaving on the table money that would have been shared when negotiating the latest national broadcast deals, opting instead to beef up language that would ensure ongoing payments to owners during a lockout, not all of which would be repaid.

On May 12, the case moves to the next phase — determining the consequences of the violation.

The briefs have been submitted; predictably, the NFL wants to pay nothing beyond the $6.9 million already given to the players at the behest of the Special Master for adding another Sunday night game to the NBC package in 2010 (the Steelers-Saints game that competed with the World Series) and the players want, as Daniel Kaplan of SportsBusiness Journal told PFT Live earlier this week, anywhere from $600 million to $1 billion.

Kaplan also reported that the players have suggested that all NFL commercial contracts should be similarly scrutinized. Whether Judge Doty takes the bait remains to be seen, especially since the players didn’t raise this argument when making their claim in 2010, possibly preventing them from doing so now.

Albert Breer of NFL Network reported Wednesday via Twitter that outside counsel (and 2006 Commissioner finalist) Gregg Levy will lead the league’s delegation on Thursday. Though Commissioner Roger Goodell is not expected to attend, Breer reports that NFLPA* executive director DeMaurice Smith will be there.

The ultimate outcome will surely be review by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit, and any award of damages to the players will serve as even more leverage for getting a deal done. In the end, it could provide an opportunity for the NFL to funnel money to the players in 2011 beyond the salary cap, permitting the players’ total take for a year with reduced revenues to increase while allowing the two sides to craft a revenue-based salary-cap formula that would grow as the effects of the lockout subside.

Of course, that would assume an ability by the two parties to communicate effectively, to set aside the desire to build maximum leverage, and to actually give a crap about the long-term interests of the game. So, basically, it won’t happen.

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[invasuant]

I doubt it will be solved before the season starts. It will be legal back and forth, and a lot of "I don't like that judgement, I want to appeal" bullshit.

I see it the other way, actually.


The players gave their best shot, and it didn't work. Now the league has the leverage.
Even without the contract breaching TV money, the owners can weather a lockout financially better than players. Especially since a player's earning years are so limited. The NFL gains back all of the leverage, and the players have to take a less than favorable deal.

Which is great in the short term, but sets us up for a strike in the future, most likely.