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Old 01-25-2010, 05:30 PM   #81
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yes, an nfc east team fan, just proved us all wrong with his objective view.

vikings lost, that is what is most important, we were all rooting against the vikings, not just an individual.
And lets go back and look at your post as an example.

Not what you are saying.... but how you've set your filters.

Vikings? Not a problem.

Favre? Filtered.

You're dislike of the man is much more notable than your dislike of the team.

Philly vs. Dallas - we hate the team much more than any individual associated with it - though all of them (Romo, Phillips, Jerrah, etc) enjoy a certain amount of loathing.
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Old 01-25-2010, 05:33 PM   #82
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And lets go back and look at your post as an example.

Not what you are saying.... but how you've set your filters.

Vikings? Not a problem.

Favre? Filtered.

You're dislike of the man is much more notable than your dislike of the team.

Philly vs. Dallas - we hate the team much more than any individual associated with it - though all of them (Romo, Phillips, Jerrah, etc) enjoy a certain amount of loathing.
The filters came on when he signed with the vikes.
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Old 01-25-2010, 05:34 PM   #83
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The filters came on when he signed with the vikes.
I don't think that changes the fact that Favre is looked at as more of a rival by himself than the Vikings team as a whole.
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Old 01-25-2010, 05:35 PM   #84
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And lets go back and look at your post as an example.

Not what you are saying.... but how you've set your filters.

Vikings? Not a problem.

#####? Filtered.

You're dislike of the man is much more notable than your dislike of the team.

Philly vs. Dallas - we hate the team much more than any individual associated with it - though all of them (Romo, Phillips, Jerrah, etc) enjoy a certain amount of loathing.
I recently had vikings filtered also, but I was unsure if when I posted something I saw as filtered if others could see it, so I removed the filter. so again, the argument holds no water.
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Old 01-25-2010, 05:44 PM   #85
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I recently had vikings filtered also, but I was unsure if when I posted something I saw as filtered if others could see it, so I removed the filter. so again, the argument holds no water.
It supports my argument, so it's absolutely valid.*




*from 'The Straw School of Argumentative Tactics', Vol.1, pgs 1-32.
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Old 01-25-2010, 05:46 PM   #86
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I don't think that changes the fact that Favre is looked at as more of a rival by himself than the Vikings team as a whole.
WTF, this rivarly really picked up during the Culpepper/Moss days, not just this year dude.
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Old 01-25-2010, 05:55 PM   #87
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I don't think that changes the fact that Favre is looked at as more of a rival by himself than the Vikings team as a whole.
Thats like saying the only reason the Cowboys and Eagles have any sort of rivalry is because TO went to Dallas.There, that's the reason why you care about Dallas.
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Old 01-25-2010, 06:00 PM   #88
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WTF, this rivarly really picked up during the Culpepper/Moss days, not just this year dude.
This year the rivalry eclipsed all others, and became so big all the other NFL fans were compelled to watch in record numbers.
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Old 01-25-2010, 06:11 PM   #89
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Thats like saying the only reason the Cowboys and Eagles have any sort of rivalry is because TO went to Dallas.There, that's the reason why you care about Dallas.
But we don't care... TO was liked here, but we hated Dallas before, after, during... but how many 'pure TO' posts/threads popped up? Damned few.

How many post-loss posts and threads are already on the board regarding not the Vikings... but Favre shitting the bed?
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Old 01-26-2010, 08:31 AM   #90
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And today is proof positive why the NFC East has greater rivalries than the NFC North.

Look at all the posts about last night's game. It's not about the Vikings loss... it's all about FAVRE.

He's more important to the Packer fans here than the Vikings. If we were to include Favre (and only Favre) as a completely separate team within the rivalry lines, they might be close.

But there's a little joy in Mudville (i.e. Packers Board) about the Vikings losing... but most of it is about Mighty Casey (Favre) striking out.
Only the Midget-Whisperer could come up with such convoluted logic that all the hatred in the NFCN is about Favre and not a rivalry

But that's not new.
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Old 01-26-2010, 11:24 AM   #91
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Only the Midget-Whisperer could come up with such convoluted logic that all the hatred in the NFCN is about Favre and not a rivalry

But that's not new.
http://sports-boards.net/forums/showthread.php?t=171272

"Joy reigns in Packerland, Brett Favre has struck out."

I'm not saying that there's no rivalries in the North.

What I'm saying is that one of the best current rivalries is Packers vs. Favre. When a rivalry with a single player outshines the rivalries between teams, how much do those rivalries really weigh in?

Then add in the whole 'weak sister' argument (i.e. the Lions), and there you go.
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Old 01-26-2010, 04:44 PM   #92
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Thats like saying the only reason the Cowboys and Eagles have any sort of rivalry is because TO went to Dallas.There, that's the reason why you care about Dallas.
Any change in my level of loathing of Dallas when TO went there may have existed, but it was imperceptible. And I don't think it changed any when he moved on. It's Dallas and that repulsive star. That's all I see, not players, not coaches.
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Old 01-26-2010, 04:49 PM   #93
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But we don't care... TO was liked here, but we hated Dallas before, after, during... but how many 'pure TO' posts/threads popped up? Damned few.

How many post-loss posts and threads are already on the board regarding not the Vikings... but Favre shitting the bed?
TO only played a couple years in Phill, I think that was a bad point. Favre was the Packers. Of course there is going to be more focus on him this year. You notice there weren't many negative threads about him last year when he was a Jet, we didn't care that much. once he put on the purple it doubled. Crap, I got caught up in the arguement again.
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Old 01-26-2010, 04:50 PM   #94
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Really all this debate comes down to is the fact that the Lions are not anybody's big rival. We could argue forever on which rivalries in these two divisions are the best, but nowhere in that conversation will the Lions come up.
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Old 01-26-2010, 08:57 PM   #95
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Old 01-27-2010, 01:39 AM   #96
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Really all this debate comes down to is the fact that the Lions are not anybody's big rival. We could argue forever on which rivalries in these two divisions are the best, but nowhere in that conversation will the Lions come up.
I don't know about that. The Giants are basically the rest of the divisions 3rd string rival in the NFC East just like the Lions are in the NFC North. The other difference is that the Giants biggest rival isn't even in the division which is not something you can say about any team in the NFC North.
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Old 01-27-2010, 02:13 AM   #97
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Just remember. . .up until this season, there wasn't a Packer fan on this entire forum that actually considered the Vikings to be a rival.

So any Packer fan that would tell you they were "cheering against all the Vikings" is, most definitely, full of crap.
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Old 01-27-2010, 02:40 AM   #98
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I don't know about that. The Giants are basically the rest of the divisions 3rd string rival in the NFC East just like the Lions are in the NFC North. The other difference is that the Giants biggest rival isn't even in the division which is not something you can say about any team in the NFC North.
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The Eagles and Giants have a rivalry that goes back decades and goes very deep. Ask Frank Gifford and Chuck Bednarick. I hate the friggin' Giants every bit as much as the Cowboys, and far more than I do the Redskins.
And if you are suggesting that the Giants biggest rival is the Jets, you are very mistaken. The Giants fans couldn't care less about Jets fans or their team compared to the NFC East rivalries. It's not even close.
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Old 01-27-2010, 03:51 AM   #99
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http://sports-boards.net/forums/showthread.php?t=171272

"Joy reigns in Packerland, Brett Favre has struck out."

I'm not saying that there's no rivalries in the North.

What I'm saying is that one of the best current rivalries is Packers vs. Favre. When a rivalry with a single player outshines the rivalries between teams, how much do those rivalries really weigh in?

Then add in the whole 'weak sister' argument (i.e. the Lions), and there you go.
There was a rivalry long before Favre was ever born. And there'll be a rivlary long after he dies.

BTW, much of the NFCN rivalry is between the Bears and (Fudge)Packers.


The Viqueens are back in the mix now after not having been as good as they were in the 70's. But they're back in the mix- and have been for the past dozen yrs or so- nonetheless.
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