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**lLianneForbess** · 11-09-2009, 08:23 PM

I'm not worried about the winning %age. I don't think you'll see a huge swing in coin-toss winners suddenly dropping to only winning 20% of the games.

What I want is actual football product deciding the games. If we want kickers to decide the game, can't we go watch soccer? If we want 'special teams' to decide it, we can do that.

I'd like real football to decide the game. Take the ball. Move down the field. Score a TD. If you are unable to do so, then your opponent gets a chance to do so. If you choose to take the FG (hey.. this sounds like a real football game, where a FG is the backup option, not the best option)... then your opponent gets the chance to shove it in your face and win the game.

why does everyone need a chance? what is this grade school?

**FinanseMikky** · 11-09-2009, 08:25 PM

why does everyone need a chance? what is this grade school?

Why do we need to have the kicker be the pivotal player in OT? What is this, soccer?

**bjacogaerllyo** · 11-09-2009, 08:25 PM

my problem with that is if your beyond 15 yards and beat, defenender is better off just tackling the guy.

I see your point but the biggest problem is when the clock is winding down and they allow the offense to just heave a 60 yard prayer and they get the penalty 9 times out of 10.

**leangarance** · 11-09-2009, 08:26 PM

I see your point but the biggest problem is when the clock is winding down and they allow the offense to just heave a 60 yard prayer and they get the penalty 9 times out of 10.

not in games I watch.

Then again I dont have charles the mugger woodson on my team.

**Pmeidstc** · 11-09-2009, 08:26 PM

As a side point, I don't really think that the current format is horrible. I just think that what I'm proposing would be better - better to watch, better highlights, and less emphasis on secondary parts of the game.

like defense?

**RokeIdeadioke** · 11-09-2009, 08:27 PM

Why do we need to have the kicker be the pivotal player in OT? What is this, soccer?

thats a retarded rebuttal.

**HunterM** · 11-09-2009, 08:27 PM

Why do we need to have the kicker be the pivotal player in OT? What is this, soccer?

so just eliminate FG's so teams with a better kicker dont have an advantage...

**VyacheslaV** · 11-09-2009, 08:28 PM

not in games I watch.

Then again I dont have charles the mugger woodson on my team.

no you dont have anyone good in your secondary.

**occurrini** · 11-09-2009, 08:30 PM

no you dont have anyone good in your secondary.

LMAO!

Anyways Dom, I like your idea. Personally, I dont see anything wrong with the way its done now, but if it had to change, then I'd like your plan just fine.

**mobiphones** · 11-09-2009, 08:31 PM

no you dont have anyone good in your secondary.

just winfield who's a probowler and madieu williams

**Emalodoulouts** · 11-09-2009, 08:33 PM

Why do we need to have the kicker be the pivotal player in OT? What is this, soccer?

10 - 13 OT win by the Steelers

Reed 2-2 FGs (1 in OT)
Bironas 1-3 FGs (0 in OT)

So, going back to regulation, the kicker was the pivotal player. Football? Foot, seems like the emphasis would be on kicking.

**JonatonM** · 11-09-2009, 08:36 PM

thats a retarded rebuttal.

To a retarded critique.

What goes around comes around.

**Galsteinbok** · 11-09-2009, 08:36 PM

just winfield who's a probowler and madieu williams

damn, shes big.

**VIAGRA-VIAGRA** · 11-09-2009, 08:37 PM

Perhaps we should do without the end zone, and just have kickers score the points.

**Garry Richardson** · 11-09-2009, 08:37 PM

damn, shes big.

he's a pretty good safety, better then any of the chumps pack line up back there.

**CibQueersejer** · 11-09-2009, 08:38 PM

To a retarded critique.

What goes around comes around.

yeah, but since you are retarded it shouldve seem like a normal critique.

**TheBest-Host** · 11-09-2009, 08:39 PM

he's a pretty good safety, better then any of the chumps pack line up back there.

LMFAO!

you mean like that chump Collins that returned what? 5 picks for tds last year?

**Anamehuskeene** · 11-09-2009, 08:39 PM

he's a pretty good safety, better then any of the chumps pack line up back there.

Next your are gonna tell us that Favre is better then Rodgers

**mobiphones** · 11-09-2009, 08:39 PM

Perhaps we should do without the end zone, and just have kickers score the points.

perhaps we just make everyone a winner.

**Yb4bulVR** · 11-09-2009, 08:39 PM

LMFAO!

you mean like that chump Collins that returned what? 5 picks for tds last year?

Actually I think it was 6

11-09-2009, 08:23 PM	#61
lLianneForbess Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 446 Senior Member	I'm not worried about the winning %age. I don't think you'll see a huge swing in coin-toss winners suddenly dropping to only winning 20% of the games. What I want is actual football product deciding the games. If we want kickers to decide the game, can't we go watch soccer? If we want 'special teams' to decide it, we can do that. I'd like real football to decide the game. Take the ball. Move down the field. Score a TD. If you are unable to do so, then your opponent gets a chance to do so. If you choose to take the FG (hey.. this sounds like a real football game, where a FG is the backup option, not the best option)... then your opponent gets the chance to shove it in your face and win the game. why does everyone need a chance? what is this grade school? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-09-2009, 08:25 PM	#62
FinanseMikky Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 435 Senior Member	why does everyone need a chance? what is this grade school? Why do we need to have the kicker be the pivotal player in OT? What is this, soccer? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-09-2009, 08:25 PM	#63
bjacogaerllyo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 472 Senior Member	my problem with that is if your beyond 15 yards and beat, defenender is better off just tackling the guy. I see your point but the biggest problem is when the clock is winding down and they allow the offense to just heave a 60 yard prayer and they get the penalty 9 times out of 10. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-09-2009, 08:26 PM	#64
leangarance Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 499 Senior Member	I see your point but the biggest problem is when the clock is winding down and they allow the offense to just heave a 60 yard prayer and they get the penalty 9 times out of 10. not in games I watch. Then again I dont have charles the mugger woodson on my team. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-09-2009, 08:26 PM	#65
Pmeidstc Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 407 Senior Member	As a side point, I don't really think that the current format is horrible. I just think that what I'm proposing would be better - better to watch, better highlights, and less emphasis on secondary parts of the game. like defense? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-09-2009, 08:27 PM	#66
RokeIdeadioke Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 569 Senior Member	Why do we need to have the kicker be the pivotal player in OT? What is this, soccer? thats a retarded rebuttal. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-09-2009, 08:27 PM	#67
HunterM Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 366 Senior Member	Why do we need to have the kicker be the pivotal player in OT? What is this, soccer? so just eliminate FG's so teams with a better kicker dont have an advantage... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-09-2009, 08:28 PM	#68
VyacheslaV Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 438 Senior Member	not in games I watch. Then again I dont have charles the mugger woodson on my team. no you dont have anyone good in your secondary. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-09-2009, 08:30 PM	#69
occurrini Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 427 Senior Member	no you dont have anyone good in your secondary. LMAO! Anyways Dom, I like your idea. Personally, I dont see anything wrong with the way its done now, but if it had to change, then I'd like your plan just fine. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-09-2009, 08:31 PM	#70
mobiphones Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 546 Senior Member	no you dont have anyone good in your secondary. just winfield who's a probowler and madieu williams Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-09-2009, 08:33 PM	#71
Emalodoulouts Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 421 Senior Member	Why do we need to have the kicker be the pivotal player in OT? What is this, soccer? 10 - 13 OT win by the Steelers Reed 2-2 FGs (1 in OT) Bironas 1-3 FGs (0 in OT) So, going back to regulation, the kicker was the pivotal player. Football? Foot, seems like the emphasis would be on kicking. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-09-2009, 08:36 PM	#72
JonatonM Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 435 Senior Member	thats a retarded rebuttal. To a retarded critique. What goes around comes around. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-09-2009, 08:36 PM	#73
Galsteinbok Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 548 Senior Member	just winfield who's a probowler and madieu williams damn, shes big. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-09-2009, 08:37 PM	#74
VIAGRA-VIAGRA Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 528 Senior Member	Perhaps we should do without the end zone, and just have kickers score the points. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-09-2009, 08:37 PM	#75
Garry Richardson Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 431 Senior Member	damn, shes big. he's a pretty good safety, better then any of the chumps pack line up back there. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-09-2009, 08:38 PM	#76
CibQueersejer Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 361 Senior Member	To a retarded critique. What goes around comes around. yeah, but since you are retarded it shouldve seem like a normal critique. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-09-2009, 08:39 PM	#77
TheBest-Host Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 463 Senior Member	he's a pretty good safety, better then any of the chumps pack line up back there. LMFAO! you mean like that chump Collins that returned what? 5 picks for tds last year? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-09-2009, 08:39 PM	#78
Anamehuskeene Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 432 Senior Member	he's a pretty good safety, better then any of the chumps pack line up back there. Next your are gonna tell us that Favre is better then Rodgers Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-09-2009, 08:39 PM	#80
Yb4bulVR Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 549 Senior Member	LMFAO! you mean like that chump Collins that returned what? 5 picks for tds last year? Actually I think it was 6 Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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