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**tsamprasxx** · 10-03-2008, 03:35 AM

Here's an argument starter.....who is the best player in the history of every NFL team? Here's my list.

Dallas Cowboys: Roger Staubach
New York Giants: Lawrence Taylor
Philadelphia Eagles: Chuck Bednarik
Washington Redsking: Sonny Jurgenson
Arizona Cardinals: Larry Wilson
San Francisco 49ers: Jerry Rice
Seattle Seahawks: Steve Largent
St. Louis Rams: Merlin Olsen
Chicago Bears: Walter Payton
Detroit Lions: Barry Sanders
Green Bay Packers: Don Hutson
Minnesota Vikings: Alan Page
Atlanta Falcons: Deion Sanders
Carolina Panthers: Steve Smith
New Orleans Saints: Archie Manning
Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Lee Roy Selmon
Buffalo Bills: OJ Simpson
Miami Dolphins: Larry Csonka
New England Patriots: Tom Brady
New York Jets: Joe Namath
Denver Broncos: Lyle Alzado
Kansas City Chiefs: Jan Stenerud
Oakland Raiders: Fred Biletnikoff
San Diego Chargers: Ladainian Tomlinson
Baltimore Ravens: Jim Brown
Cincinnati Bengals: Ken Anderson
Cleveland Browns: Jim Brown
Pittsburgh Steelers: Mike Webster
Houston Texans: Mario Williams
Indianapolis Colts: John Unitas
Jacksonville Jaguars: Mark Brunell
Tennessee Titans: Earl Campbell

**dodsCooggipsedebt** · 10-03-2008, 03:46 AM

for Jackonsville, I would definitely say Jimmy Smith hands down. Also this is debatable, but Dallas, give me Emmit Smith, he is after all the record holder...

**Tij84ye** · 10-03-2008, 04:23 AM

Philadelphia Eagles: Chuck Bednarik Reggie White?

**Jesslovers** · 10-03-2008, 04:26 AM

Does Jim Brown go to both Baltimore and Cleveland?

I would think the old Browns history goes with the new Browns. If it doesn't, it'd go to the Ravens, but certainly not both.

**PapsEdisa** · 10-03-2008, 04:28 AM

Does Jim Brown go to both Baltimore and Cleveland?

I would think the old Browns history goes with the new Browns. If it doesn't, it'd go to the Ravens, but certainly not both.

Yep. The Ravens got their own franchise history and the new Browns retained the old Brown's history.

**Bromikka** · 10-03-2008, 04:30 AM

For the lions, I'd say Bobby Layne, he turned lions franchise around and they havent been same since.

**astonmartinrx371** · 10-03-2008, 04:31 AM

For the lions, I'd say Bobby Layne, he turned lions franchise around and they havent been same since.

If thats all it takes then it should be Millen.

**DoctorTentonyya** · 10-03-2008, 04:35 AM

For the Eagles, Bobby Hoying has to be given some consideration.

**Emalodoulouts** · 10-03-2008, 04:36 AM

If thats all it takes then it should be Millen.

he turn them around in the right direction

**Mmzmptvk** · 10-03-2008, 04:37 AM

i like the selection of Hutson for the packers, any WR w/ his numbres that played in era that didnt throw the ball...

**wmtravelservice** · 10-03-2008, 04:46 AM

For the Eagles, Bobby Hoying has to be given some consideration.

Mamula might have him beat.

**Anakattawl** · 10-03-2008, 05:11 AM

For the Eagles, Bobby Hoying has to be given some consideration.

I saw Bobby after a game in Atlanta....he was standing there with his Mom and Dad complaining that the Line wouldn't block for him.

Saw Duce Staley and Dunn at that game too...think I have autographs of all three.

**NADALA** · 10-03-2008, 05:21 AM

I'm well aware of Alzado's impact, moreso for the Raiders than the Broncos, but can anyone really be better for the Broncos than Elway?

**Svatudjw** · 10-03-2008, 05:32 AM

Dallas Cowboys: Emmitt Smith
New York Giants: Lawrence Taylor
Philadelphia Eagles: Reggie White
Washington Redskins: Darrell Green
Arizona Cardinals: Larry Wilson
San Francisco 49ers: Jerry Rice
Seattle Seahawks: Steve Largent
St. Louis Rams: Deacon Jones
Chicago Bears: Walter Payton
Detroit Lions: Barry Sanders
Green Bay Packers: Brett Favre
Minnesota Vikings: Chris Carter
Atlanta Falcons: Deion Sanders
Carolina Panthers: Kevin Greene
New Orleans Saints: Willie Roaf
Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Mike Alstott
Buffalo Bills: OJ Simpson
Miami Dolphins: Dan Marino
New England Patriots: Tom Brady
New York Jets: Curtis Martin
Denver Broncos: John Elway
Kansas City Chiefs: Will Shields
Oakland Raiders: Art Shell
San Diego Chargers: Ladainian Tomlinson
Baltimore Ravens: Ray Lewis
Cincinnati Bengals: Anthony Munoz
Cleveland Browns: Jim Brown
Pittsburgh Steelers: Jack Lambert
Houston Texans: Mario Williams
Indianapolis Colts: Johnny Unitas
Jacksonville Jaguars: Jimmy Smith
Tennessee Titans: Bruce Matthews

**emily** · 10-03-2008, 05:58 AM

i like the selection of Hutson for the packers, any WR w/ his numbres that played in era that didnt throw the ball...

My father will argue until he turns blue that Hutson was the best WR ever, far better than Jerry Rice even. He was at the game when Hutson scored 29 points in a quarter. It's pretty unlikely that record will ever be broken.

**KLIMOV25gyi** · 10-03-2008, 06:04 AM

Dallas Cowboys: Emmitt Smith
New York Giants: Lawrence Taylor
Philadelphia Eagles: Reggie White
Washington Redskins: Darrell Green
Arizona Cardinals: Larry Wilson
San Francisco 49ers: Jerry Rice
Seattle Seahawks: Steve Largent
St. Louis Rams: Deacon Jones
Chicago Bears: Walter Payton
Detroit Lions: Barry Sanders
Green Bay Packers: Brett Favre
Minnesota Vikings: Chris Carter
Atlanta Falcons: Deion Sanders
Carolina Panthers: Kevin Greene
New Orleans Saints: Willie Roaf
Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Mike Alstott
Buffalo Bills: OJ Simpson
Miami Dolphins: Dan Marino
New England Patriots: Tom Brady
New York Jets: Curtis Martin
Denver Broncos: John Elway
Kansas City Chiefs: Will Shields
Oakland Raiders: Art Shell
San Diego Chargers: Ladainian Tomlinson
Baltimore Ravens: Ray Lewis
Cincinnati Bengals: Anthony Munoz
Cleveland Browns: Jim Brown
Pittsburgh Steelers: Jack Lambert
Houston Texans: Mario Williams
Indianapolis Colts: Johnny Unitas
Jacksonville Jaguars: Jimmy Smith
Tennessee Titans: Bruce Matthews

Mike Alstott? You've got to be kidding me.

And I'm hardly surprised that you picked Favre for the Packers. I hope I don't piss you off by saying that I wouldn't even pick him as the best QB in Packer history. Bart Starr's 5 championships in 7 years and one INT per 71 attempts in the playoffs are far better to what Favre has done.

**Promotiona** · 10-03-2008, 06:55 AM

Mike Alstott? You've got to be kidding me.

And I'm hardly surprised that you picked Favre for the Packers. I hope I don't piss you off by saying that I wouldn't even pick him as the best QB in Packer history. Bart Starr's 5 championships in 7 years and one INT per 71 attempts in the playoffs are far better to what Favre has done.

Kidding? I don't think so. 6 time Pro Bowler, face of the franchise for 10 years, and key offensive contributor to a Super Bowl squad?

As far as Favre is concerned, we'll agree to disagree. Starr is a fantastic quarterback and a legitimate NFL legend, but benefitted from some of the most complete teams in NFL history. You can likely count the number of Hall of Famers Favre has played with in his career on one hand and Starr's championship teams were chalked full of them. 2 offensive linemen (and a third who SHOULD be in there), Hall of Fame running backs, wide receivers, defensive backs, defensive linemen, and linebackers.

**Flirigor** · 11-02-2008, 10:32 AM

Here's an argument starter.....who is the best player in the history of every NFL team? Here's my list.

Denver Broncos: Lyle Alzado

Of course, while Lyle was a popular Bronco, you'd get a loud, booming argument Bronco fans - I mean, John Elway did play for the Broncos.

Which is why the category might have to be offensive and defensive players. On the offensive side,I couldn't see any other Bronco except Elway. Now Terrell Davis had some terrific years from the RB slot - but just didn't last as long as Elway.

However, as a longtime Bronco fan, on the defensive side I wouldn't pick Lyle. I'd take Randy Gradishar.

**derinasderun** · 11-02-2008, 10:46 AM

I'm well aware of Alzado's impact, moreso for the Raiders than the Broncos, but can anyone really be better for the Broncos than Elway?

Alzado played the majority of his career as a Bronco (1971-78 seasons) - not as a Raider (or Brown, his other team). Now he did have a huge impact in beating the Raiders a few times, particularly in the Orange Crush season of 1977.

As a Bronco, Lyle was in the Pro Bowl twice, all-pro ftwice, 2nd team all pro once, all AFC five times, and AFC Player of the year in 1977. He won one award as a Brown, 2nd team all AFC, and one as a Raider - AFC Comeback player of the year in 1982.

But as stated - Elway had the 16-year impact as the Bronco quarterback. Noone beats Elway overall in Denver.

**SaLifHoq** · 11-02-2008, 11:33 AM

i think tb's best player is Derrick Brooks.

10-03-2008, 03:35 AM	#1
tsamprasxx Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 468 Senior Member	Best player in team history Here's an argument starter.....who is the best player in the history of every NFL team? Here's my list. Dallas Cowboys: Roger Staubach New York Giants: Lawrence Taylor Philadelphia Eagles: Chuck Bednarik Washington Redsking: Sonny Jurgenson Arizona Cardinals: Larry Wilson San Francisco 49ers: Jerry Rice Seattle Seahawks: Steve Largent St. Louis Rams: Merlin Olsen Chicago Bears: Walter Payton Detroit Lions: Barry Sanders Green Bay Packers: Don Hutson Minnesota Vikings: Alan Page Atlanta Falcons: Deion Sanders Carolina Panthers: Steve Smith New Orleans Saints: Archie Manning Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Lee Roy Selmon Buffalo Bills: OJ Simpson Miami Dolphins: Larry Csonka New England Patriots: Tom Brady New York Jets: Joe Namath Denver Broncos: Lyle Alzado Kansas City Chiefs: Jan Stenerud Oakland Raiders: Fred Biletnikoff San Diego Chargers: Ladainian Tomlinson Baltimore Ravens: Jim Brown Cincinnati Bengals: Ken Anderson Cleveland Browns: Jim Brown Pittsburgh Steelers: Mike Webster Houston Texans: Mario Williams Indianapolis Colts: John Unitas Jacksonville Jaguars: Mark Brunell Tennessee Titans: Earl Campbell Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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dodsCooggipsedebt Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 461 Senior Member	for Jackonsville, I would definitely say Jimmy Smith hands down. Also this is debatable, but Dallas, give me Emmit Smith, he is after all the record holder... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Tij84ye Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 327 Senior Member	Philadelphia Eagles: Chuck Bednarik Reggie White? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Jesslovers Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 366 Senior Member	Does Jim Brown go to both Baltimore and Cleveland? I would think the old Browns history goes with the new Browns. If it doesn't, it'd go to the Ravens, but certainly not both. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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PapsEdisa Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 545 Senior Member	Does Jim Brown go to both Baltimore and Cleveland? I would think the old Browns history goes with the new Browns. If it doesn't, it'd go to the Ravens, but certainly not both. Yep. The Ravens got their own franchise history and the new Browns retained the old Brown's history. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Bromikka Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 527 Senior Member	For the lions, I'd say Bobby Layne, he turned lions franchise around and they havent been same since. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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astonmartinrx371 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 628 Senior Member	For the lions, I'd say Bobby Layne, he turned lions franchise around and they havent been same since. If thats all it takes then it should be Millen. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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DoctorTentonyya Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 453 Senior Member	For the Eagles, Bobby Hoying has to be given some consideration. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Emalodoulouts Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 421 Senior Member	If thats all it takes then it should be Millen. he turn them around in the right direction Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Mmzmptvk Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 372 Senior Member	i like the selection of Hutson for the packers, any WR w/ his numbres that played in era that didnt throw the ball... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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wmtravelservice Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 604 Senior Member	For the Eagles, Bobby Hoying has to be given some consideration. Mamula might have him beat. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Anakattawl Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 551 Senior Member	For the Eagles, Bobby Hoying has to be given some consideration. I saw Bobby after a game in Atlanta....he was standing there with his Mom and Dad complaining that the Line wouldn't block for him. Saw Duce Staley and Dunn at that game too...think I have autographs of all three. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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NADALA Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 379 Senior Member	I'm well aware of Alzado's impact, moreso for the Raiders than the Broncos, but can anyone really be better for the Broncos than Elway? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Svatudjw Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 536 Senior Member	Dallas Cowboys: Emmitt Smith New York Giants: Lawrence Taylor Philadelphia Eagles: Reggie White Washington Redskins: Darrell Green Arizona Cardinals: Larry Wilson San Francisco 49ers: Jerry Rice Seattle Seahawks: Steve Largent St. Louis Rams: Deacon Jones Chicago Bears: Walter Payton Detroit Lions: Barry Sanders Green Bay Packers: Brett Favre Minnesota Vikings: Chris Carter Atlanta Falcons: Deion Sanders Carolina Panthers: Kevin Greene New Orleans Saints: Willie Roaf Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Mike Alstott Buffalo Bills: OJ Simpson Miami Dolphins: Dan Marino New England Patriots: Tom Brady New York Jets: Curtis Martin Denver Broncos: John Elway Kansas City Chiefs: Will Shields Oakland Raiders: Art Shell San Diego Chargers: Ladainian Tomlinson Baltimore Ravens: Ray Lewis Cincinnati Bengals: Anthony Munoz Cleveland Browns: Jim Brown Pittsburgh Steelers: Jack Lambert Houston Texans: Mario Williams Indianapolis Colts: Johnny Unitas Jacksonville Jaguars: Jimmy Smith Tennessee Titans: Bruce Matthews Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-03-2008, 05:58 AM	#15
emily Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 428 Senior Member	i like the selection of Hutson for the packers, any WR w/ his numbres that played in era that didnt throw the ball... My father will argue until he turns blue that Hutson was the best WR ever, far better than Jerry Rice even. He was at the game when Hutson scored 29 points in a quarter. It's pretty unlikely that record will ever be broken. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-03-2008, 06:04 AM	#16
KLIMOV25gyi Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 479 Senior Member	Dallas Cowboys: Emmitt Smith New York Giants: Lawrence Taylor Philadelphia Eagles: Reggie White Washington Redskins: Darrell Green Arizona Cardinals: Larry Wilson San Francisco 49ers: Jerry Rice Seattle Seahawks: Steve Largent St. Louis Rams: Deacon Jones Chicago Bears: Walter Payton Detroit Lions: Barry Sanders Green Bay Packers: Brett Favre Minnesota Vikings: Chris Carter Atlanta Falcons: Deion Sanders Carolina Panthers: Kevin Greene New Orleans Saints: Willie Roaf Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Mike Alstott Buffalo Bills: OJ Simpson Miami Dolphins: Dan Marino New England Patriots: Tom Brady New York Jets: Curtis Martin Denver Broncos: John Elway Kansas City Chiefs: Will Shields Oakland Raiders: Art Shell San Diego Chargers: Ladainian Tomlinson Baltimore Ravens: Ray Lewis Cincinnati Bengals: Anthony Munoz Cleveland Browns: Jim Brown Pittsburgh Steelers: Jack Lambert Houston Texans: Mario Williams Indianapolis Colts: Johnny Unitas Jacksonville Jaguars: Jimmy Smith Tennessee Titans: Bruce Matthews Mike Alstott? You've got to be kidding me. And I'm hardly surprised that you picked Favre for the Packers. I hope I don't piss you off by saying that I wouldn't even pick him as the best QB in Packer history. Bart Starr's 5 championships in 7 years and one INT per 71 attempts in the playoffs are far better to what Favre has done. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Promotiona Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 324 Senior Member	Mike Alstott? You've got to be kidding me. And I'm hardly surprised that you picked Favre for the Packers. I hope I don't piss you off by saying that I wouldn't even pick him as the best QB in Packer history. Bart Starr's 5 championships in 7 years and one INT per 71 attempts in the playoffs are far better to what Favre has done. Kidding? I don't think so. 6 time Pro Bowler, face of the franchise for 10 years, and key offensive contributor to a Super Bowl squad? As far as Favre is concerned, we'll agree to disagree. Starr is a fantastic quarterback and a legitimate NFL legend, but benefitted from some of the most complete teams in NFL history. You can likely count the number of Hall of Famers Favre has played with in his career on one hand and Starr's championship teams were chalked full of them. 2 offensive linemen (and a third who SHOULD be in there), Hall of Fame running backs, wide receivers, defensive backs, defensive linemen, and linebackers. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-02-2008, 10:32 AM	#18
Flirigor Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 402 Senior Member	Here's an argument starter.....who is the best player in the history of every NFL team? Here's my list. Denver Broncos: Lyle Alzado Of course, while Lyle was a popular Bronco, you'd get a loud, booming argument Bronco fans - I mean, John Elway did play for the Broncos. Which is why the category might have to be offensive and defensive players. On the offensive side,I couldn't see any other Bronco except Elway. Now Terrell Davis had some terrific years from the RB slot - but just didn't last as long as Elway. However, as a longtime Bronco fan, on the defensive side I wouldn't pick Lyle. I'd take Randy Gradishar. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-02-2008, 10:46 AM	#19
derinasderun Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 406 Senior Member	I'm well aware of Alzado's impact, moreso for the Raiders than the Broncos, but can anyone really be better for the Broncos than Elway? Alzado played the majority of his career as a Bronco (1971-78 seasons) - not as a Raider (or Brown, his other team). Now he did have a huge impact in beating the Raiders a few times, particularly in the Orange Crush season of 1977. As a Bronco, Lyle was in the Pro Bowl twice, all-pro ftwice, 2nd team all pro once, all AFC five times, and AFC Player of the year in 1977. He won one award as a Brown, 2nd team all AFC, and one as a Raider - AFC Comeback player of the year in 1982. But as stated - Elway had the 16-year impact as the Bronco quarterback. Noone beats Elway overall in Denver. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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SaLifHoq Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 492 Senior Member	i think tb's best player is Derrick Brooks. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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