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**aceriscoolon** · 07-02-2007, 06:18 AM

who's to say oakland won't have the #1 pick next year as well?

**brorwargy** · 07-02-2007, 06:18 AM

what does that tell me? That the kid actually cares about other people and wants to help others out there in the world. Cares more about people then he does about making millions in the nfl and playing on a crappy team. More sports stars should be like him. Hes down to earth and trying to help the less fortunate

Then he shouldn't worry, because that doesn't fit the Raiders profile.

**ropinirole** · 07-02-2007, 06:18 AM

Wow, that is one set of balls on the kid to turn down all that money and stay in college an extra year risking injury or less money (if he has a poor season) just so he doesn't end up a Raider.

Good for him...

Aside from financial issues, you also have to take into consideration one's quality of life. I can't imagine it's been much fun playing in Oakland the last 3 years.

All the better for the Vikes, I just hope now we have the sense to package Fred Smoot, our No. 1 and our No. 2 or 3. to Detroit so we can draft him

**LindaSmithXV** · 07-02-2007, 06:20 AM

who's to say oakland won't have the #1 pick next year as well?

You bring up a good point, but with their young defense, I'm doubting it.

They will shore up that offense enough to win some ballgames next year.

**Henldyhl** · 07-02-2007, 06:20 AM

Aside from financial issues, you also have to take into consideration one's quality of life. I can't imagine it's been much fun playing in Oakland the last 3 years.

All the better for the Vikes, I just hope now we have the sense to package Fred Smoot, our No. 1 and our No. 2 or 3. to Detroit so we can draft him

LMAO.

Not a chance. Smoot is terrible, and teams don't make deals with division rivals very often.

(Please forget for one sec that Millen is the GM.)

**CialisBestPrice** · 07-02-2007, 06:21 AM

LMAO.

Not a chance. Smoot is terrible, and teams don't make deals with division rivals very often.

fine, we'll throw in t-willy too

**VoriEremiagem** · 07-02-2007, 06:22 AM

fine, we'll throw in t-willy too

Sorry, but we don't need anymore garbage. Its already overflowing as it is.

**POMAH_K** · 07-02-2007, 06:22 AM

You bring up a good point, but with their young defense, I'm doubting it.

They will shore up that offense enough to win some ballgames next year.

yah, maybe three? if they do something stupid like draft adrian peterson they'll be sitting on the clock in '08 before anyone else again.

**plogypeskelry** · 07-02-2007, 06:24 AM

LMAO.

Not a chance. Smoot is terrible, and teams don't make deals with division rivals very often.

(Please forget for one sec that Millen is the GM.)

I think Smoot is a slightly above average CB in the prime of his career with a heinously low cap number, besides don't you guys need some help at CB?

If the trade is mutually beneficial, why would they not do it? I've been hearing from people on your boards that you think the Lions will try trade down.

**viagra-kaufen** · 07-02-2007, 06:24 AM

Sorry, but we don't need anymore garbage. Its already overflowing as it is.

we'll take bmw off your hands.

**WournGona** · 07-02-2007, 06:24 AM

yah, maybe three? if they do something stupid like draft adrian peterson they'll be sitting on the clock in '08 before anyone else again.

The only thing the Raiders will have working against them next year is a very tough division.

Their defense was number 3 and they couldn't get off the field b/c the offense was so dreadful.

They have all the makings of a team that can win close to half their games with an improved offense.

Can they shore up that offense in one year?

It all depends on what happens with Moss and Porter.

**Xavier_Spinner_Wheels** · 07-02-2007, 06:25 AM

we'll take bmw off your hands.

I don't know who that is, but I have a PINTO I'd like to get rid of.

**Abofedrorobox** · 07-02-2007, 06:26 AM

I think Smoot is a slightly above average CB in the prime of his career with a heinously low cap number, besides don't you guys need some help at CB?

If the trade is mutually beneficial, why would they not do it? I've been hearing from people on your boards that you think the Lions will try trade down.

Trust me when I tell you to think that the Lions would trade within the division that you're in a dream land.

Furthermore, the fact that Fred fucking Smoot is the KEY to the deal, I can't help but laugh.

I don't blame anyone for thinking the Lions will bail them out though b/c Millen is the laughing stock of the league as well as the Lions currently are.

**Sarbrienna** · 07-02-2007, 06:26 AM

Big Mike Williams

**Bbjhjxfy** · 07-02-2007, 06:27 AM

Big Mike Williams

lol

I know who he is. I refuse to use that nickname b/c of the car it represents.

He's a Pinto.

**BypeVupyide** · 07-02-2007, 06:29 AM

Mike Williams and Josh McCown for Troy Williamson and Brooks Bollinger. Make it happen

**JonnTEN** · 07-02-2007, 06:30 AM

Mike Williams and Josh McCown for Troy Williamson and Brooks Bollinger. Make it happen

YUCK.

That would have to be one of the most nondescript deals ever.

10 lbs of shit in a 5 lb bag.

I suppose McCown is the best of the bunch.

**MightyMasc** · 07-02-2007, 06:32 AM

I think Smoot is a slightly above average CB in the prime of his career with a heinously low cap number, besides don't you guys need some help at CB?

If the trade is mutually beneficial, why would they not do it? I've been hearing from people on your boards that you think the Lions will try trade down.

To answer your original question, the Lions need help all over the field.

**Lapsinuibense** · 07-02-2007, 06:34 AM

Trust me when I tell you to think that the Lions would trade within the division that you're in a dream land.

Furthermore, the fact that Fred fucking Smoot is the KEY to the deal, I can't help but laugh.

I don't blame anyone for thinking the Lions will bail them out though b/c Millen is the laughing stock of the league as well as the Lions currently are.

Um the 1st and the 2nd or 3rd would be they key to deal, Smoot in theory is just the servicable role player we throw in to sweeten the deal. Hell swap him for Darrion Scott, Brooks Bollinger or Mike Rosenthal it's just 5-10% of the value of the trade.

**avaincmolla** · 07-02-2007, 06:35 AM

Um the 1st and the 2nd or 3rd would be they key to deal, Smoot in theory is just the servicable role player we throw in to sweeten the deal. Hell swap him for Darrion Scott, Brooks Bollinger or Mike Rosenthal it's just 5-10% of the value of the trade.

I don't see any of those scenarios happening in a million years.

If it does, you know where to find me and I'll admit I'm wrong.

07-02-2007, 06:18 AM	#21
aceriscoolon Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 354 Senior Member	who's to say oakland won't have the #1 pick next year as well? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-02-2007, 06:18 AM	#22
brorwargy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 457 Senior Member	what does that tell me? That the kid actually cares about other people and wants to help others out there in the world. Cares more about people then he does about making millions in the nfl and playing on a crappy team. More sports stars should be like him. Hes down to earth and trying to help the less fortunate Then he shouldn't worry, because that doesn't fit the Raiders profile. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-02-2007, 06:18 AM	#23
ropinirole Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 477 Senior Member	Wow, that is one set of balls on the kid to turn down all that money and stay in college an extra year risking injury or less money (if he has a poor season) just so he doesn't end up a Raider. Good for him... Aside from financial issues, you also have to take into consideration one's quality of life. I can't imagine it's been much fun playing in Oakland the last 3 years. All the better for the Vikes, I just hope now we have the sense to package Fred Smoot, our No. 1 and our No. 2 or 3. to Detroit so we can draft him Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-02-2007, 06:20 AM	#24
LindaSmithXV Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 466 Senior Member	who's to say oakland won't have the #1 pick next year as well? You bring up a good point, but with their young defense, I'm doubting it. They will shore up that offense enough to win some ballgames next year. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-02-2007, 06:20 AM	#25
Henldyhl Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 493 Senior Member	Aside from financial issues, you also have to take into consideration one's quality of life. I can't imagine it's been much fun playing in Oakland the last 3 years. All the better for the Vikes, I just hope now we have the sense to package Fred Smoot, our No. 1 and our No. 2 or 3. to Detroit so we can draft him LMAO. Not a chance. Smoot is terrible, and teams don't make deals with division rivals very often. (Please forget for one sec that Millen is the GM.) Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-02-2007, 06:21 AM	#26
CialisBestPrice Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 576 Senior Member	LMAO. Not a chance. Smoot is terrible, and teams don't make deals with division rivals very often. fine, we'll throw in t-willy too Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-02-2007, 06:22 AM	#27
VoriEremiagem Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 555 Senior Member	fine, we'll throw in t-willy too Sorry, but we don't need anymore garbage. Its already overflowing as it is. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-02-2007, 06:22 AM	#28
POMAH_K Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 467 Senior Member	You bring up a good point, but with their young defense, I'm doubting it. They will shore up that offense enough to win some ballgames next year. yah, maybe three? if they do something stupid like draft adrian peterson they'll be sitting on the clock in '08 before anyone else again. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-02-2007, 06:24 AM	#29
plogypeskelry Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 355 Senior Member	LMAO. Not a chance. Smoot is terrible, and teams don't make deals with division rivals very often. (Please forget for one sec that Millen is the GM.) I think Smoot is a slightly above average CB in the prime of his career with a heinously low cap number, besides don't you guys need some help at CB? If the trade is mutually beneficial, why would they not do it? I've been hearing from people on your boards that you think the Lions will try trade down. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-02-2007, 06:24 AM	#30
viagra-kaufen Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 415 Senior Member	Sorry, but we don't need anymore garbage. Its already overflowing as it is. we'll take bmw off your hands. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-02-2007, 06:24 AM	#31
WournGona Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 441 Senior Member	yah, maybe three? if they do something stupid like draft adrian peterson they'll be sitting on the clock in '08 before anyone else again. The only thing the Raiders will have working against them next year is a very tough division. Their defense was number 3 and they couldn't get off the field b/c the offense was so dreadful. They have all the makings of a team that can win close to half their games with an improved offense. Can they shore up that offense in one year? It all depends on what happens with Moss and Porter. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-02-2007, 06:25 AM	#32
Xavier_Spinner_Wheels Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 656 Senior Member	we'll take bmw off your hands. I don't know who that is, but I have a PINTO I'd like to get rid of. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-02-2007, 06:26 AM	#33
Abofedrorobox Join Date Dec 2005 Posts 465 Senior Member	I think Smoot is a slightly above average CB in the prime of his career with a heinously low cap number, besides don't you guys need some help at CB? If the trade is mutually beneficial, why would they not do it? I've been hearing from people on your boards that you think the Lions will try trade down. Trust me when I tell you to think that the Lions would trade within the division that you're in a dream land. Furthermore, the fact that Fred fucking Smoot is the KEY to the deal, I can't help but laugh. I don't blame anyone for thinking the Lions will bail them out though b/c Millen is the laughing stock of the league as well as the Lions currently are. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-02-2007, 06:26 AM	#34
Sarbrienna Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 377 Senior Member	Big Mike Williams Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Bbjhjxfy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 398 Senior Member	Big Mike Williams lol I know who he is. I refuse to use that nickname b/c of the car it represents. He's a Pinto. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-02-2007, 06:29 AM	#36
BypeVupyide Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 410 Senior Member	Mike Williams and Josh McCown for Troy Williamson and Brooks Bollinger. Make it happen Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-02-2007, 06:30 AM	#37
JonnTEN Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 472 Senior Member	Mike Williams and Josh McCown for Troy Williamson and Brooks Bollinger. Make it happen YUCK. That would have to be one of the most nondescript deals ever. 10 lbs of shit in a 5 lb bag. I suppose McCown is the best of the bunch. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-02-2007, 06:32 AM	#38
MightyMasc Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 396 Senior Member	I think Smoot is a slightly above average CB in the prime of his career with a heinously low cap number, besides don't you guys need some help at CB? If the trade is mutually beneficial, why would they not do it? I've been hearing from people on your boards that you think the Lions will try trade down. To answer your original question, the Lions need help all over the field. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-02-2007, 06:34 AM	#39
Lapsinuibense Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 448 Senior Member	Trust me when I tell you to think that the Lions would trade within the division that you're in a dream land. Furthermore, the fact that Fred fucking Smoot is the KEY to the deal, I can't help but laugh. I don't blame anyone for thinking the Lions will bail them out though b/c Millen is the laughing stock of the league as well as the Lions currently are. Um the 1st and the 2nd or 3rd would be they key to deal, Smoot in theory is just the servicable role player we throw in to sweeten the deal. Hell swap him for Darrion Scott, Brooks Bollinger or Mike Rosenthal it's just 5-10% of the value of the trade. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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07-02-2007, 06:35 AM	#40
avaincmolla Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 359 Senior Member	Um the 1st and the 2nd or 3rd would be they key to deal, Smoot in theory is just the servicable role player we throw in to sweeten the deal. Hell swap him for Darrion Scott, Brooks Bollinger or Mike Rosenthal it's just 5-10% of the value of the trade. I don't see any of those scenarios happening in a million years. If it does, you know where to find me and I'll admit I'm wrong. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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