[Guloqkcm]

I'm looking, but I'm not seeing anything different.

Trent Green has a ring, I think. He didn't win it, but I'm sure he has one.

[BliliBoopsy]

You do realize there are 52 players on the Patriots not named Tom Brady, right?

[AliceFromHouston]

I'd be more worried about McNair in the top four than Brady not in the top 5.

I was about to say that...

[plantBanceper]

I'd be more worried about McNair in the top four than Brady not in the top 5.

That was the second place that the list went out of wack. Not having Brady in the top 2 is just ridiculous. McNair isn't close to the QB he was 3 or 4 years ago...his time is past.

[Flerdourdyged]

Look again.

What am I looking for?

[Theorsell]

Collins is not near the top 5!

1. Peyton Manning
2. Donovan McNabb
3. Daunte Culpepper
4. Steve McNair
5. Brett Favre
6. Tom Brady
7. Matt Hasselback
8. Trent Green
9. Marc Bulger
10. Drew Brees
11. Chad Pennington
12. Byron Leftwich
13. David Carr
14. Ben Rothlisberger
15. Michael Vick
16. Jake Delhomme
17. Aaron Brooks

There may be a few more that are better than Collins -- Plummer, Palmer, etc.

Collins is horrible. With the Raiders offense he may do well. But he's nowhere near the top 5.

As much as you may not like the guy, how can you still have 5 guys ahead of Brady? The dude has 3 rings, thats 2 more than the rest of your list.

[wheettebott]

Everybody is so busy ridin' Randy Moss' rod that they somehow elevate Collins to above the mediocre status that he actually is. I think the difference between this year and last for the Raiders will be marginal.

[Barryrich]

Ranking quarterbacks has never seemed very worthwhile to me.

Of course that's because I know the order.

[boxcigsnick]

Look again.

I'm looking, but I'm not seeing anything different.

[DfrtYhyu]

As much as you may not like the guy, how can you still have 5 guys ahead of Brady? The dude has 3 rings, thats 2 more than the rest of your list.

Look again.

[Enalsebeerkawl]

That's the only situation I can think of where there's more than one on the list...

I expected more from Pitpen.

[casinoboneerer]

well thats just stupid to count a backup ring.

That's the only situation I can think of where there's more than one on the list...

[Clesylafabada]

tell me if I'm wrong but didn't I read a couple of national publications that had him rated as a TOP 5 QB in the leauge ???? he looks like shit tonite--could use a little help up front though !!!

[BruceQW]

Here's the part where I brag because I'm bored at work and had nothing better to do:

http://sports-boards.net/forums/showthread.php?t=43316

Collins not even in the top 20. You heard it here first... If you didn't hear it anywhere else before.

come on sully, you know that Wins >>>>> Stats

Brady is better than Daunte, McNabb and Favre at this point in his career. Dude just gets it done.

[ftqwhbvxlcfop]

That's the only situation I can think of where there's more than one on the list...

I had thought maybe Bulger, but he came the next year in St. Louis. Trent Green wasn't even a backup that year, he was on IR.

[CHEAPSOFTOEMONLINE]

Here's the part where I brag because I'm bored at work and had nothing better to do:

http://sports-boards.net/forums/showthread.php?t=43316

Collins not even in the top 20. You heard it here first... If you didn't hear it anywhere else before.

[Zaxsdcxs]

Here's the part where I brag because I'm bored at work and had nothing better to do:

http://sports-boards.net/forums/showthread.php?t=43316

Collins not even in the top 20. You heard it here first... If you didn't hear it anywhere else before.

hehe
http://sports-boards.net/forums/show...98&postcount=5

[Gasfghj]

come on sully, you know that Wins >>>>> Stats

Brady is better than Daunte, McNabb and Favre at this point in his career. Dude just gets it done.

He certainly contributes his part to a team that gets it done.

[GAGNAPPEAPH]

tell me if I'm wrong but didn't I read a couple of national publications that had him rated as a TOP 5 QB in the leauge ???? he looks like shit tonite--could use a little help up front though !!!

Collins is not near the top 5!

1. Peyton Manning
2. Donovan McNabb
3. Daunte Culpepper
4. Steve McNair
5. Brett Favre
6. Tom Brady
7. Matt Hasselback
8. Trent Green
9. Marc Bulger
10. Drew Brees
11. Chad Pennington
12. Byron Leftwich
13. David Carr
14. Ben Rothlisberger
15. Michael Vick
16. Jake Delhomme
17. Aaron Brooks

There may be a few more that are better than Collins -- Plummer, Palmer, etc.

Collins is horrible. With the Raiders offense he may do well. But he's nowhere near the top 5.

[Hodstcopter]

I expected more from Pitpen.

when will you learn?