[Aw1HhC0m]

Holy crap! The oddsmakers must really like Philly to give them that much of a point spread.

Then again, they are the #1 and we are the #6 seed, so I guess it's warranted.

[Trientoriciom]

um i really, really hope the vikes at least lose by less than 9.5 cuz i accidentally bet 1569

instead of 169

[n2Oddw8P]

IF the viking win the Eagles first 13 - 3 team to lose to a 8-8 team. the vikes will have to play the game of there life to win. if vikes do win they could make it to the spuberbowl

[DfrtYhyu]

Here is a bit of info on the injury. It might help a little.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/4262/news

The Vikes are still holding out.

Also, the point about scoring twice while injured isn't great. I thought his first score came before the injury and the second was Harris' fault for letting Moss run by him without slowing him down at all.

[nmnrIjGB]

The Eagles were only 11 points better than the Vikings the first time they played. . .WITH a healthy T.O.

There's nothing to suggest that they're double-digits better than the Vikings without him.

[Lxbsvksl]

Is Moss still gimping. Anybody know his status?

[pKgGpUlF]

The Eagles were only 11 points better than the Vikings the first time they played. . .WITH a healthy T.O.

There's nothing to suggest that they're double-digits better than the Vikings without him.

The Vikings were also playing a hell of a lot better back then. But I agree with you....Eagles SHOULD win by about 17

[eropiereetuekm]

Philly 31-16. Theyve got something to prove in Philly. Stinkston and the rest of the wr corps need to show they can play. For a week they'll do it.

[YonkFiorc]

The Eagles were only 11 points better than the Vikings the first time they played. . .WITH a healthy T.O.

There's nothing to suggest that they're double-digits better than the Vikings without him.

Well, I wouldn't say that...if what you are saying is true then the line wouldn't have gone up after it was first posted like it did, obviously more than half of those betting still liked the eagles. Some interesting stats that really don't mean anything but I'll bet they factor in when making the line.

Eagles are undefeated under Reid after a bye week.

The number one seed in the NFC has never lost in the Divisional Round, that's to any seed since the current playoff system has been in place.

The number six seed in the NFC has never advanced into the Championship round ever.

[Soassesaisp]

Eagles are undefeated under Reid after a bye week.

The number one seed in the NFC has never lost in the Divisional Round, that's to any seed since the current playoff system has been in place.

The number six seed in the NFC has never advanced into the Championship round ever.

Before this weekend, no 8-8 team had ever won an NFL playoff game, either. Then it happened twice in 2 days.

[averkif]

I'd like to mention just a few things.

The Vikings have struggled against teams with good defenses all year. They have struggled to run the ball even though they have a few talented running backs. Without the threat of a solid run attack and with Moss not 100% (he looked really awful limping off the field after his interview) that poses problems for their offense.

Philly's defense has gotten worlds better since their meeting with the Vikings. 3/4ths of their secondary is starting for the NFC in the pro bowl and many people feel the corner that didn't make it (Brown) is actually better than Sheppard but didn't have the interceptions to prove it, They got better as the season went on and they gained more and more experience. Trotter moving to MLB and Siminau ( I can't spell his damn name and am too lazy to look it up) moving to weak side has helped their run defense dramatically, allowing them to use more of Jimmy Johnsons famed blitzing schemes. The Eagles defense finished 3rd in the league in points allowed and that with 2nd and 3rd stingers playing in their final two games.

Unlike last season when the Eagles were crippled going into the playoffs, they are relatively healthy (except TO of course) Especially on their defensive line where they had 6 players on IR going into the playoffs.

The offense might come out a little rusty, but how long does it take them to shake that rust off against a morbid defense? a drive? two? maybe a Quarter? On the last drive the Eagles starters played in they marched right down the field and scored a Touchdown against the Rams who's defense is comparable to the Vikings....and they did that without TO or Westbrook who did not play that game.

The Eagles Special teams are arguably the best in the NFC and Reid vs Tice is a no-brainer if it ever comes down to a battle of wits. Generally in the playoffs Overall Health, Defense, Special teams and coaching all loom large and the Eagles have the advantage in all those categories. The vikings (and Packers for that matter) are far too one-dimensional a team

Over the past two years there is a model for teams that have beaten the Eagles. All the teams fit the Model, Well coached teams with good defenses and effective but not really explosive offenses. The Eagles tend to match up well against teams like the Vikings that are built around offense and not much else

All that being said I wouldn't be suprised if the Vikings covered, but I personally don't think it's going to happen. As slob said, the Eagles are still the best team in the NFC, there is a reason they are heavily favored in this game and it has nothing to do with Randy Moss mooning Green bay fans.

[exschke]

All that being said I wouldn't be suprised if the Vikings covered, but I personally don't think it's going to happen. As slob said, the Eagles are still the best team in the NFC, there is a reason they are heavily favored in this game and it has nothing to do with Randy Moss mooning Green bay fans.

Dang it. I had my bet decided.

Back to the drawing board.

[hexniks]

The Vikings have struggled against teams with good defenses all year. They have struggled to run the ball even though they have a few talented running backs. Without the threat of a solid run attack and with Moss not 100% (he looked really awful limping off the field after his interview) that poses problems for their offense.

Only one team in the NFL has a higher yards/carry average than the Vikings. The total yards aren't that high. . .but when you have a QB that completes nearly 70% of his passes and throws for over 4,700 yards, you'll throw a little more than you probably should.

Unlike last season when the Eagles were crippled going into the playoffs, they are relatively healthy (except TO of course) Especially on their defensive line where they had 6 players on IR going into the playoffs. You say "except TO, of course" like it's a minor thing.

Outside of TO, the Eagles' other receivers are. . .well, to put it as politely as I can, they're garbage. Todd Pinkston is scared of his own shadow, to say nothing of actual physical contact.

The offense might come out a little rusty, but how long does it take them to shake that rust off against a morbid defense? a drive? two? maybe a Quarter? On the last drive the Eagles starters played in they marched right down the field and scored a Touchdown against the Rams who's defense is comparable to the Vikings....and they did that without TO or Westbrook who did not play that game.

The Eagles Special teams are arguably the best in the NFC and Reid vs Tice is a no-brainer if it ever comes down to a battle of wits. Generally in the playoffs Overall Health, Defense, Special teams and coaching all loom large and the Eagles have the advantage in all those categories. The vikings (and Packers for that matter) are far too one-dimensional a team The Packers? One-dimensional? No. You don't get to be a Top 10 rushing offense in the NFL (which the Packers are) by being one-dimensional. And I'd take Ahman Green over every RB on the Eagles' roster.

They BECAME one-dimensional against Minnesota after the Vikes forced a three-and-out on the first drive and a Favre INT on the second drive to put the Pack down 17-0 eight minutes into the game. I'd argue that without TO, the Packer offense is much better than the Eagles offense.

[KLhdfskja]

i will be happy witha win by ether team

why did you even bother? you will not win anything period, you just come out even regardless.

[arriplify]

Only one team in the NFL has a higher yards/carry average than the Vikings. The total yards aren't that high. . .but when you have a QB that completes nearly 70% of his passes and throws for over 4,700 yards, you'll throw a little more than you probably should.

You say "except TO, of course" like it's a minor thing.

Outside of TO, the Eagles' other receivers are. . .well, to put it as politely as I can, they're garbage. Todd Pinkston is scared of his own shadow, to say nothing of actual physical contact.

Amazingly enough, the Eagles will be allowed to play with 11 players on offense despite the loss of TO.

The Packers? One-dimensional? No. You don't get to be a Top 10 rushing offense in the NFL (which the Packers are) by being one-dimensional. And I'd take Ahman Green over every RB on the Eagles' roster.

They BECAME one-dimensional against Minnesota after the Vikes forced a three-and-out on the first drive and a Favre INT on the second drive to put the Pack down 17-0 eight minutes into the game. I'd argue that without TO, the Packer offense is much better than the Eagles offense.

If you're counting on the Eagles giving you all the turnovers the Packers did, then you might just not even watch. Obviously you've never seen Brian Westbrook play, Obviously.

[EasyLOAD]

If I'm going to place sully bucks on the Vikes I would I'd get better odds than 1 to 1. Afterall, this is my S-B scholarship money I'm betting with.

[southernplayer99]

If you're counting on the Eagles giving you all the turnovers the Packers did, then you might just not even watch. Obviously you've never seen Brian Westbrook play, Obviously.

I don't think we have to count on turnovers from the Eagles. As has already been mentioned, the Eagles certainly didn't kick anybody's ass the first time the Vikes and the Eagles met.

Like I said, I don't know if Minnesota wins this game, but I think they're more likely to win the game than to get blown out.

[unlomarma]

I don't think we have to count on turnovers from the Eagles. As has already been mentioned, the Eagles certainly didn't kick anybody's ass the first time the Vikes and the Eagles met.

Like I said, I don't know if Minnesota wins this game, but I think they're more likely to win the game than to get blown out.

Who said anything about kicking ass?

Also, I don't know why were still looking at the first game. Both of these teams are very different than the ones that played in week 2.

As far as I'm concerned, week 2 didn't happen.

[Dynasty]

I don't think we have to count on turnovers from the Eagles. As has already been mentioned, the Eagles certainly didn't kick anybody's ass the first time the Vikes and the Eagles met.

Like I said, I don't know if Minnesota wins this game, but I think they're more likely to win the game than to get blown out.

I think the eagles dominated on both sides of the ball, the Vikes didn't do what they wanted to do on either side of the ball. Moss scores a late TD to make it look closer than it was...

[Hftqdxpm]

Only one team in the NFL has a higher yards/carry average than the Vikings. The total yards aren't that high. . .but when you have a QB that completes nearly 70% of his passes and throws for over 4,700 yards, you'll throw a little more than you probably should.

Their YPC average is skewed because of Culpepper, he's running on broken down Passing plays a good 80% of the time. Yes it still equates to positive yards, but it does not help their run game. Mewelde Moore is also bumping that average up significantly with his 65carries 5.4ypc, I don't remember seeing him on the field against Green Bay. I had thought he was injured or something but he wasn't. Most of the Carries went to Bennet 3.9YPC and Smith 4.4 YPC decent numbers but nothing special and their run game has taken a serious hit since Kleinsausser and Rosenthal went out. Those were huge losses. Kleinsausser is one of the best blocking tight ends in football. Mo williams also left the game with Injury and his health becomes a question mark as well.

You say "except TO, of course" like it's a minor thing.

Outside of TO, the Eagles' other receivers are. . .well, to put it as politely as I can, they're garbage. Todd Pinkston is scared of his own shadow, to say nothing of actual physical contact.

No I added the TO comment because it is a big thing, if it weren't I wouldn't have bothered to even write it. And they may be Garbage but they got us to 3 consecutive NFC championship games, so it just proves the Eagles do have the talent to win with garbage at WR. Our defense is healthy entering the playoffs for the first time in 3 years, that is the main point i was trying to make

The Packers? One-dimensional? No. You don't get to be a Top 10 rushing offense in the NFL (which the Packers are) by being one-dimensional. And I'd take Ahman Green over every RB on the Eagles' roster.

Yeah ok i shouldn't have added that bit about the packers. they aren't one demensional they ARE however an offense only team. I was trying to make 2 points at once and scrunched it up a bit too much. let me expand

Point #1 the Vikings are one dimensional. Their defense is not good, their special teams are not great, their running game is pedestrian partly due to Improper utilization. Their passing game is Stellar. If Tice (and he's not the sharpest tool in the woodshed, admit it) stays with the formula he's used all year, It plays right into the Eagles strength on defense

Point #2 The Eagles are a more complete team and present more of a challenge than the Packers. As far as Ahman green over westbrook goes, thats apples and oranges, they have two different styles, In most offenses I'd take Green because most offenses are better with a pounding Physical running back, In the Eagles offense Westbrook is 100 times more dangerous because of the different things he can do. 1500 yard from scrimagge is nothing to laugh at (rushing + Receiving) One of the cornerstones to the Eagles offense is moving people around to create mismatches. Green would never be successful doing that.

They BECAME one-dimensional against Minnesota after the Vikes forced a three-and-out on the first drive and a Favre INT on the second drive to put the Pack down 17-0 eight minutes into the game. I'd argue that without TO, the Packer offense is much better than the Eagles offense.

I'm not willing to say it's better, it's certainly better on paper, but the Eagles offense is less mistake prone, spends less time shooting itself in the foot, bad games rarely turn into disasters and as long as Mcnabb is healthy and playing they have consistantly beat teams they should beat, and the Vikings fall into that category.