[radikal]

Dear KRS,

Sorry you got that impression. How am I dividing racially here by saying the North Indian Hindus vehemently deny any link to Persian/Iranian - I am just stating a fact here, ask any of them ?

Cheers,
JK

[tgs]

Hi Renuka,

Sorry I didnt mean to convey that impression. I just respond to KRS as well.

I stand corrected on this point based on your feedback. I stated based on my interaction with some of the North Indians I know well.

Regards,
Ganesh

[S.T.D.]

Hi Renuka,

Sorry I didnt mean to convey that impression. I just respond to KRS as well.

I stand corrected on this point based on your feedback. I stated based on my interaction with some of the North Indians I know well.

Regards,
Ganesh

Indians from North South East and West..want to give full credit to their home state.Thats just normal I feel.

You know try cooking up a story and tell a Keralite that he/she is not from Kerala and watch Patala Loka break loose!!LOL


No problems Bro..just kidding..

[TorryJens]

Dear Jaykay,

I just remembered this..I have a doctor friend a Northern Indian Punjabi Sarasawat Brahmin old man who told me that he traced his ancestry and he told me that he has some Greek blood and he was non stop bragging about it till I got sick and tired and told him(Olympics was hosted in Greece that year) and I told him "why dont you use your family tree to get a free ticket to the olympics"

I was surprised that he seemed overjoyed to know he had some Greek blood.

[MannoFr]

Is there a Tamil equivalent for the word "sassy" ?

[S.T.D.]

Dear Jaykay,

I just remembered this..I have a doctor friend a Northern Indian Punjabi Sarasawat Brahmin old man who told me that he traced his ancestry and he told me that he has some Greek blood and he was non stop bragging about it till I got sick and tired and told him(Olympics was hosted in Greece that year) and I told him "why dont you use your family tree to get a free ticket to the olympics"

I was surprised that he seemed overjoyed to know he had some Greek blood.

Hi Renuka,

Good one ! - LOL !

Cheers,
JK

[softy54534]

namaste BS.

If by 'sassy' you mean 'saucy' as 'rude, impertinent', then we might translate it into Tamizh as
துடுக்கான--tuDukkAna

and for the meaning 'pert, sprightly, stylistic or smart' for 'saucy', the translation could be:
மிடுக்கான--miDukkAna

Is there a Tamil equivalent for the word "sassy" ?

[S.T.D.]

Namaste Saidevo!

மிடுக்கான for sure! Thanks! By sassy I mean "Lively, bold, and full of spirit; cheeky." So I think miDukkAna sounds about right

[Paul Bunyan]

JayKay767ji,

Take for instance the word "ayodhyA" | You say this is not the ayodhyA of North but ayoththipattinam of South. The question is it is being called as ayoththi is definitely a "simplification" of ayodhyA for the mahAprANa letter 'dha' is not there in Tamil!?!
GS

[Drugmachine]

hmmm!! off late , some one wants to say Sanskrit is purely a Dravidian Origin !!

i welcome that attitude and approach, come what its right or wrong. i wish every young generation chants this, be it a lie or one with lacking supporting documentary proof. it doesnt matter to me. let it be a lie, doesnt matter

again a timing miss. all i wish is, this should have been proclaimed exactly 100 years ago. if so, we may not have had a pain to read a chapter of EVR in our high school history text books.

as sh.kunjuppu often said in similar tone, 'many a times, good opportunities have been missed'.

[9mm_fan]

I just remembered this..I have a doctor friend a Northern Indian Punjabi Sarasawat Brahmin old man who told me that he traced his ancestry and he told me that he has some Greek blood and he was non stop bragging about it till I got sick and tired and told him(Olympics was hosted in Greece that year) and I told him "why dont you use your family tree to get a free ticket to the olympics"

I was surprised that he seemed overjoyed to know he had some Greek blood.

This is not very surprising to me. Many Indians (both North and South) are borderline racist with a distinct preference for white skin and so-called Eurasian blood.

For empirical evidence look no further than the heroines of Hindi, Tamil and Telugu films.

[HedgeYourBets]

Amid all the praise for Sanskrit, let me also present a detraction.

No doubt there is an enormous amount of great, epic quality literature in Sanskrit along with tomes of high quality spiritual thought.

However many Sanskrit learners have complained about the difficulty of its grammar. Many, many hours have to be spent memorizing the rules. A true Sanskrit scholar has to devote several years to the mastery of the language.

I think the difficulty of the language also promoted class distinction in India. Only a selected group of people could effectively use it. The rest fell back to Prakrit, Pali (and later Hindi) and were demoted in the social hierarchy.

Compare this to Hindi, Tamil or English. Even auto wallahs in the appropriate regions can converse in these languages.

[Drugmachine]

This is not very surprising to me. Many Indians (both North and South) are borderline racist with a distinct preference for white skin and so-called Eurasian blood.

For empirical evidence look no further than the heroines of Hindi, Tamil and Telugu films.

I read matrimonial columns for fun, color of skin do seem to matter a lot. (sic)

[Big A]

I read matrimonial columns for fun, color of skin do seem to matter a lot. (sic)

Thanks Mr. Prasad for the corroborating evidence.

God help the unmarried Indian who has a darker than "wheatish complexion".

[Beerinkol]

This happens nearly everywhere it seems. It's prevalent in Thailand for sure. In fact the Thai aesthetic ideal is that of kohn jin or Chinese features (pale skin, taller, more slender, slender eyes etc. My ex wife was Thai and from the South of thailand no less and still made remarks about my "dark" people and religion. The people of the South are known as Aye Dhai or Aye Dahm (aka the southern or black / dark). I am as white as can be and she used to call me Aye Dham because of my religion.
People from Bangkok call people from the south near malaysia Aya Dham and people from the South near Malaysia call anyone else farther south Aya Dham (literally Mr -but a disrespectful verion- Black)

LOL! People are similar all over the world my man!

This is not very surprising to me. Many Indians (both North and South) are borderline racist with a distinct preference for white skin and so-called Eurasian blood.

For empirical evidence look no further than the heroines of Hindi, Tamil and Telugu films.

[Paul Bunyan]

Amid all the praise for Sanskrit, let me also present a detraction.

No doubt there is an enormous amount of great, epic quality literature in Sanskrit along with tomes of high quality spiritual thought.

However many Sanskrit learners have complained about the difficulty of its grammar. Many, many hours have to be spent memorizing the rules. A true Sanskrit scholar has to devote several years to the mastery of the language.

I think the difficulty of the language also promoted class distinction in India. Only a selected group of people could effectively use it. The rest fell back to Prakrit, Pali (and later Hindi) and were demoted in the social hierarchy.

Compare this to Hindi, Tamil or English. Even auto wallahs in the appropriate regions can converse in these languages.

I would beg to differ...there is no need to memorize the grammar once a language is spoken.
Just like how all of us grew up speaking our mother tongue..its by hearing and everything else fell in place.
A child learns by hearing and mouth movement and later word recognition.
No child learn rules of grammar when they speak their 1st few words.

That why Samskrita Bharati of India is working hard to revive spoken Sanskrit cos then all rules of grammar will just fall into place.

Most important do NOT memorize any rule of grammar.Rules can be deduced if effort is made.

Sanskrit grammar rules are not impossible to master...its not hard as most commonly thought but its vast thats all.

Everyone I met in India when I was a student told me that Sanskrit is too hard to master.
In 2007 I decided to self study Sanskrit and I am happy to know if a person with no previous background of even knowing the Devanagari script could self study it without a teacher..I feel anyone can study sanskrit.

Firstly we indians should drop the notion that Sanskrit is hard and impossible to master and the feeling that its not for the common man.With hard work and determination nothing is impossible to master.

Its really fun that now I can even swear in Sanskrit!!

[Lt_Apple]

Thanks Mr. Prasad for the corroborating evidence.

God help the unmarried Indian who has a darker than "wheatish complexion".

People get married anyhow Biswa..majority of India falls under wheatish to dark and the population is still soaring.

BTW the wheatish word is the most wrongly used word I feel in the matrimonials.
Some guys are dark but write they are wheatish.

Wheatish color is like Priyanka Chopra and Fair is like Kareena Kapoor.
BTW Bipasha Basu is on the darker side and she is much sexier and prettier than Kareena Kapoor.
So I dont really feel color makes too much of a difference in a persons looks.

[HedgeYourBets]

I would beg to differ...there is no need to memorize the grammar once a language is spoken.
Just like how all of us grew up speaking our mother tongue..its by hearing and everything else fell in place.
A child learns by hearing and mouth movement and later word recognition.
No child learn rules of grammar when they speak their 1st few words.

That why Samskrita Bharati of India is working hard to revive spoken Sanskrit cos then all rules of grammar will just fall into place.

Most important do NOT memorize any rule of grammar.Rules can be deduced if effort is made.

Sanskrit grammar rules are not impossible to master...its not hard as most commonly thought but its vast thats all.

Everyone I met in India when I was a student told me that Sanskrit is too hard to master.
In 2007 I decided to self study Sanskrit and I am happy to know if a person with no previous background of even knowing the Devanagari script could self study it without a teacher..I feel anyone can study sanskrit.

Firstly we indians should drop the notion that Sanskrit is hard and impossible to master and the feeling that its not for the common man.With hard work and determination nothing is impossible to master.

Its really fun that now I can even swear in Sanskrit!!

This is the most sensible post I have come across in this thread - congrats, Renuka! In fact I learnt Sanskrit just the way you did.

[doctorzlo]

People get married anyhow Biswa..majority of India falls under wheatish to dark and the population is still soaring.

BTW the wheatish word is the most wrongly used word I feel in the matrimonials.
Some guys are dark but write they are wheatish.

Wheatish color is like Priyanka Chopra and Fair is like Kareena Kapoor.
BTW Bipasha Basu is on the darker side and she is much sexier and prettier than Kareena Kapoor.
So I dont really feel color makes too much of a difference in a persons looks.

Another sensible post!

[LottiFurmann]

For what it's worth I prefer Southern women of (seemingly) most nations. Maybe I am just a child of the Sun. Your mileage may vary of course

Dear Boston,

In the South Pole there are no women..you will have to make do with Penguins.
With Penguins skin color wont be a big deal cos they will tell you 'It don't matter if you're Black or White!!!LOL