[Ifroham4]

By Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev.

You thinking ‘this is my Guru’ or ‘that is my Guru’ is of no great significance. When your inner situation becomes such that you really have no choice and you don’t consciously think ‘this is my Guru’, but in every way he has become that, then he is your Guru. In spite of yourself, when you are involved helplessly, then you have found your Guru. You don’t have to declare ‘this is my Guru,’ but when an awareness grows within you, naturally there is an acceptance of that.


Don’t try to choose your Guru. When you are choiceless about it and there is no other way for you, only then do you need a Guru. If you can still choose, don’t choose one because your choice will definitely be wrong because if you choose logically, you will choose a Guru who is convenient and comfortable for you. A Guru is somebody who takes your life, not somebody who offers you comfort. He is somebody who takes you, completely destroys and demolishes you in every way, and still he is your friend.


Generally a friend is a person who supports your ego. Those are the kind of friends that you choose. So friends are not good for you in the real sense because they support your ego in so many ways. But a Guru is a friend who demolishes your ego. So if you do not find him comfortable but you are helplessly attracted to him, only then is he your Guru.

[Big A]

I've read somewhere that we don't actually choose our gurus. They choose us. When the student is ready, the teacher will appear.....

[Ifroham4]

we can not choose our guru and we should have the grace of good guru bestowed on us . in this line only we have read many stories about shisyas to get anugraha of that guru.If you want or not want a guru ,the turning point in your life with HIS blessing will show who is your Guru.

[radikal]

I've read somewhere that we don't actually choose our gurus. They choose us. When the student is ready, the teacher will appear.....

AH! That is my little girl ...back with a bang as promised!

[Beerinkol]

When the disciple is ready to learn

the guru appears and comes to him on his own.

It has happened in my own life.

[softy54534]

When the disciple is ready to learn

the guru appears and comes to him on his own.

It has happened in my own life.

You are lucky. I probably turned him away.

[doctorzlo]

In both cases selection of friend and guru lies with the individuals' decisions.

[TorryJens]

I've read somewhere that we don't actually choose our gurus. They choose us. When the student is ready, the teacher will appear.....

100% true Amala!

Seen this happen many times.

[Ifroham4]

A Guru can appear in any form.
We should not limit ourselves to the thought that only a learned person will be our Guru.

Small things in life do add up and anyone or even an animal can be our Guru.

I will share this story with all here.

When I was a teen we had a dog but we had to travel outstation frequently cos both my paternal grandparents were bed ridden and we used to visit them very often.

So the dog used to be left alone and my father's friend used to come and give it food but sometimes my father's friend might not come and my dog had to go to the nearby jungle along with the wild dogs there to look for food.

So my dog became friends with lots of wild dogs..in fact his mate was a wild dog.

But my father felt bad that the dog sometimes went without food when we were outstation so my father decided to send the dog away to a farm which was some 20 km away from home.

My brothers and I felt sad to see the dog leave.
Even his mate was very sad and she went back to the jungle.

After 3 months one day I heard my dog bark outside the house.
I was shocked to see him!!
He had traced his way back home and I was over joyed to see him.
He barked so loud and his mate heard him and also came from the jungle.

I put some food for my dog cos he looked very thin I guess tracing his way back and walking some 20 km over a couple of days would have made him thin.

The house where I lived as a teen was near a jungle and lots of monkeys used to come daily too and they were friends with my dog.

When I put food for my dog to eat..I saw my dog use his paw and divide the food for his mate and the monkeys and he made them eat first and he only ate the balance.

Here I saw a dog which was hungry,tired and walked 20km to reach home and still thought of his mate and his monkey friends.

Truly a selfless act.

So I could say that my dog was also a Guru cos he showed me what being selfless is all about.

[Lillie_Steins]

Renuka,

So I could say that my dog was also a Guru cos he should me what being selfless is all about. My experience was just the opposite. At one stage, a dog was my guru too. But at that time the situation was, I turned my back to that dog, walked away few steps and came back as a different person ( psychologically); that dog realised that but still had no time to clear itself.. I kicked it out of the way.. A new leaf was turned in my life.

Cheers!

[TorryJens]

Greetings.

.. but seriously I don't think any guru would touch me even with an eight feet pole. If I really want to have a guru, who knows, I may have to ask that person very politely... " kindly become my guru, please. or else!"....

Cheers!

[MannoFr]

Renuka,



My experience was just the opposite. At one stage, a dog was my guru too. But at that time the situation was, I turned my back to that dog, walked away few steps and came back as a different person ( psychologically); that dog realised that but still had no time to clear itself.. I kicked it out of the way.. A new leaf was turned in my life.

Cheers!

OMG you actually kicked a dog?
Poor dog yaar..what did it do to you?

[Lillie_Steins]

Greetings.

.. but seriously I don't think any guru would touch me even with an eight feet pole. If I really want to have a guru, who knows, I may have to ask that person very politely... " kindly become my guru, please. or else!"....

Cheers!

When you meet a true Guru..even if you have hostile thoughts nothing will work.
Your whole body will be "paralyzed" and you will meekly acknowledge your preceptor.

[PhillipHer]

OMG you actually kicked a dog?
Poor dog yaar..what did it do to you?

Yes, I did. I was down.. way down at one time. So down, almost 'bye bye time and full of bye bye thoughts'. It rained for couple of days and there was only a small strip on the road free of water. Either one walked on that narrow strip or had to get in the water. I was walking on that road.. zero self confidence.. way down.. I was secreting all the chemicals body produced when one is depressed.. this dog was lying on that strip.. he looked up at me, showed so much dis interest and curled back on the same strip.. message was clear.. " you! walk around me!".. I just stood there few seconds.. realiosed if I don't win that dog, I will never win anything in life ( if there was any life left after that day, that was).. I deliberately turned back, walked away few steps then dragged all my energies from the reserve and walked back.. that dog realised.. too late.. kicked him across to the full width of the street and walked on... I had to win my psychological fight with a street dog before I could clawed my way back in life.

Cheers!

[doctorzlo]

When you meet a true Guru..even if you have hostile thoughts nothing will work.
Your whole body will be "paralyzed" and you will meekly acknowledge your preceptor.

I never have 'hostile' thoughts towards anyone at anytime. One has to really push me to the corner before I strike.. once I clear the cornered situation, I loose interest in fights.

I don't remember meeting anyone to fit those descriptions explained by you... may not happen ever.

Cheers!

[PhillipHer]

Yes, I did. I was down.. way down at one time. So down, almost 'bye bye time and full of bye bye thoughts'. It rained for couple of days and there was only a small strip on the road free of water. Either one walked on that narrow strip or had to get in the water. I was walking on that road.. zero self confidence.. way down.. I was secreting all the chemicals body produced when one is depressed.. this dog was lying on that strip.. he looked up at me, showed so much dis interest and curled back on the same strip.. message was clear.. " you! walk around me!".. I just stood there few seconds.. realiosed if I don't win that dog, I will never win anything in life ( if there was any life left after that day, that was).. I deliberately turned back, walked away few steps then dragged all my energies from the reserve and walked back.. that dog realised.. too late.. kicked him across to the full width of the street and walked on... I had to win my psychological fight with a street dog before I could clawed my way back in life.

Cheers!

Hey poor dog ok! He did not do anything to you.

I thought that may be you kicked a dog which was trying to bite you or something.

Poor animal...how could you hurt him?

Becos you knew it was a poor helpless dog and he can't do much to you..you kicked him isn't it?
Just imagine if it was a Lion or Tiger sitting there would you still dare go up and kick it?

[Lt_Apple]

I never have 'hostile' thoughts towards anyone at anytime. One has to really push me to the corner before I strike.. once I clear the cornered situation, I loose interest in fights.

I don't remember meeting anyone to fit those descriptions explained by you... may not happen ever.

Cheers!

If your mind is shut even while having sight one might not still see.
So never say never!LOL

[radikal]

Hey poor dog ok! He did not do anything to you.

I thought that may be you kicked a dog which was trying to bite you or something.

Poor animal...how could you hurt him?

Becos you knew it was a poor helpless dog and he can't do much to you..you kicked him isn't it?
Just imagine if it was a Lion or Tiger sitting there would you still dare go up and kick it?

Actually with that frame of mind I had on that day, I would have.

Had I not kicked that dog out of the way, I would have died. I needed that boost up of self confidence. That dog didn't mind, you know? It just had to learn who was the boss. And that in turn taught me my lesson in life.

Cheers!

[NeroASERCH]

If your mind is shut even while having sight one might not still see.
So never say never!LOL

I don't know Renuka. My mind may be shut; or may be wide open... I haven't a clue! Seriously, I have not iota of spiritual thought in me. Why would any guru waste time on me? Chances are Guru would risk ending up gulping JD with me! Let's talk about realistic things, please!

Cheers!

[tgs]

Hey you still haven't answered my question!

Would have dared to kick a Lion or Tiger sitting on the road..the same way you kicked the dog?