[Peptobismol]

Originally Posted by S.Balaji Kolaru padhigam starts with the following lines :


VEYORU THOLI PANGAN VIDAMUNDA KANDAN… MIGA NALLA VEENAI THADAVEE…..

Sambandhar sang this in praise of Lord Shiva…..

Yes, I recall these verses from my childhood religious classes, , and Balaji anNe, I am not in India, I am in London, any web links would be highly appreciatable, thank u very much Has Project Madurai been forgotten so soon! Please follow these links for Sambandar's Thevaram.

http://www.itamils.org/pmadurai/utf8/mp150.html

http://www.itamils.org/pmadurai/utf8/mp151.html

http://www.itamils.org/pmadurai/utf8/mp162.html

kOLaRu thiru-p-patigam is No.919 in URL No.3 above.

[softy54534]

Kolaru padhigam starts with the following lines :


VEYORU THOLI PANGAN VIDAMUNDA KANDAN… MIGA NALLA VEENAI THADAVEE…..

Sambandhar sang this in praise of Lord Shiva…..

Yes, I recall these verses from my childhood religious classes, , and Balaji anNe, I am not in India, I am in London, any web links would be highly appreciatable, thank u very much

[Paul Bunyan]

Badri,
Some corrections:

Lord Siva resides in Bhramapuram(Seerkaazhi) where bhramma once worshipped Siva and received his blessings. (= yedu udaiya malaaran paNindhu yetha aruL seidha).

kaLvan here is taken to mean unseen ( in hiding).

I knew there was something not right! Because, the reference to the lotus was a bit obscure with respect to Shiva! Now it makes sense. Thanks Raj!

Seri, what is the story behind Brahma worshipping Shiva in Seekaazhi?

[Ifroham4]

Dear Raghu,

Another feather to your Cap… Great …. Looking forward to very informative postings from learned Dfers…

[radikal]

rajraj: Can you please provide a brief translation and urai!

[HedgeYourBets]

Is it the story where Brahma lied that he had seen the top of Lord Shiva(meaning measured the agni fully) while Vishnu told the truth that he could not find the depth.So, because of this curse, Brahma worshipped him? This is just my guess.

[Paul Bunyan]

Dear all,

Shall we all discuss about the 63 Nayanmargal, and their devotion towords Parameshwar. It would be great if intellectuals like Sudhama Sir, Balaji anNe, Viggop anNe badri anNe discuss about the great Nayanmarghal, like Apar, Suntharar, Thirunavakuarasar, Thiru gnana sambhanthar, .. to all 64 of these Saiva Bhaktha's.

It would be great if discuss each of these swamighal in a structured way, one at a time, so I kindly request some one to start with Thiru gnanan sambhanthar, please.

Om NamaShivaya

[brraverishhh]

Gnanasampandhar is also known as "AludaipPillai". Can anyone please tell me how he got this name?

[LottiFurmann]

Yes Balaji anNe, Me too awaiting eagerly for more info on Thiru Gnana Sambhandar, at what he attained Mukthi?

[doctorzlo]

Is it the story where Brahma lied that he had seen the top of Lord Shiva(meaning measured the agni fully) while Vishnu told the truth that he could not find the depth.So, because of this curse, Brahma worshipped him? This is just my guess.

This is one of the reason Maha Shivaratri celeberated for, Yes as far as I know Lord Bharama lied bout reachis Parameshwar's tip of the head, while Lord Vishnu admitted that, he could not find the feet of Maheshwar, I think this is why Lord Bhrama is not worshiped or made temples for lord bhrama.

There is saying in Thamizh

'Aathiyum Anthamum illa Arul perum jothi' refering there is no beggining or end to Maheshwar!

[Beerinkol]

Badri,
I thought it was self-explanatory with the meaning I gave for the few uncommon words. I will try later.

sorry, raj! Neenga meanings add panrathukulla, naan athai post panniten!! It is very clear now...for the benefit of others:

"Adorned with earrings, sitting on the bull, wearing the pure white crescent moon, besmeared with the ash of the cremation grounds, the thief who captivated my heart, the one with the lotus, who graced me to stand before Him and humbly praise Him, isn't He the Lord who resides in this famed Bhramapuram?"

[Big A]

Raghu,

It must be 63 ….. not 64…………….

[Fegasderty]

Must have lived during the early years of the seventh century AD That Sambandar is a contemporary of Appar and Siruttondar, otherwise known as Parañjotiyar, is evident from the legend in the Periyapuranam. We know Paranjötiyar was the Commander-in-chief of the Pallava King Narasimha Varnian I who distinguished himself against the Chãlukyas. According to inscriptional evidence, Narasimhavarman I succeeded Mãhêndravarman I in A.D. 630 and continued his rule to A.D. 660. Thus the age of Sambandar must be looked for sometime in the middle of the seventh century A.D.


The town of Siyãli in Tanjore District is recorded by tradition as a Noah's Ark. When the whole world was submerged under a great deluge, this was the only spot which was not affected by the waters of the flood. Hence its well-known name Tonipuram (literally Boat city). Besides, other names are given to the same city. In this ancient town of Sivãli was born Tirugna-sambandar. He was a Brahmin by caste. When he was three years old, his father took him to the temple tank, placed him on the bank and went for a bath. Perhaps feeling lonely the child cried ‘mama’, ‘ papa’, when Lord Siva and His Consort appeared before him and consoled him, Pärvati giving him milk of wisdom. When his parent saw him thus drinking milk out of a golden bowl and questioned the child as to who gave it to him, the boy pointed to the distant temple, and sang in praise of the Lord.

Thenceforward he became a great and devout bhakta. It was the desire of the youngster to visit places sacred to the Lord Siva. His father yielded to his wishes and took him from one place to the other always carrying him on his shoulder. As befits a dvija, his upanayanam ceremony was performed. He then visited many a place of pilgrimage and established his reputation by miracles. In the course of his religious tour, he met Appar at Tiruvilimilalai near Mãyavaram and helped to relieve the famine stricken people there. Both Swãmijis then proceeded to Vedãranyam where an invitation came to them from the Pãndyan Queen and Minister to visit their capital Madura, especially as the king was under the influence of the Samanas. Leaving Appar at Vëdãranyam, Sambandar repaired to Madura. With the connivance of the King, the Samanas set fire to the residence of Sambandar with no effect. When this was brought to the notice of the Swãmiji, he cursed the Pãndyan King to be attacked with burning fever. The Samanas tried all their resources to effect a cure, but with no success. At last the king prayed to Sambandar to relieve him of his fell disease, which he immediately did. Then an assembly by both Saivas and Samnas was convened to establish the superiority of either sect. After a number of tests in which the Samanas had an inglorious defeat, Saivism was accepted as the true religion by the king.

After this, Sambandar set out on pilgrimage and visited many places preaching and singing and working miracles until he came back to his native home. There he responded to the wishes of his father and consented to get himself married in the old Vedic style. But at the very early age of sixteen the revered Swãmiji became one with the Holy of Holies. This ãcãrya is generally taken to have flourished in the first half of the seventh century. To the same period belongs Appar Swamigal who was a contemporary of Sambandar. While the latter’s collection of hymns forms the first three Holy books (Tirumurai), Appar’s are the next three Holy books of the Thevaram.

Sambandar praises the little town of Tönipuram by twelve different names. For every name he sings one stanza, each one of these stanzas consisting of the same lines repeated four times. The ordinary reader who sees only the surface is apt to think that this repetition is but for the sake of greater emphasis and nothing more. But it should be understood that the whole thing is pitched in a high key and the repetition has a mystic force and hidden meaning and produces a wonderfully powerful effect.

The four lines of each stanza which admit of different interpretations would not produce the intended effect, namely, to bring out the full force and significance, if rendered in any other medium than the ancient Tamil language, and hence would not be of much interest to the common reader. Under these circumstances we refrain from any elaborate exposition of these stanzas. But it may be noted here that the language is mystic or as stated at the outset, mysticism here is of the formal kind.

[softy54534]

Dear All,

The main deity of Seergazhi temple is called BRAHMAPUREESHWARAR… He is als o called as Thiruthoniappar. The Lord on top of the temple is called Sattanathar…
About Sattanathar.... One needs a separate posting for this... as there is a big story behind this..

[Lillie_Steins]

Dear Balaji AnNe,

Thanks for the info, shall we discuss about 'Kanapar' the hunter, who placed his eye on ShivaLingam?

thanks

Dear Raghu,

We are not finished yet with Sambandhar perumaan.....

I consider this thread as a DIVINE THREAD... Lets exchange more about Sambandhar before moving to other great personalities....

Generally, Appar ( Thirunaavukarasar ) , Sambandhar , Sundaramurthy ... They are the most talked about and known personalities ....

We shall explore and find out more and more of them...soon

You know, wherever Sambandhar went, the religion itself went along with him...Basically Almightly gave all the courage , knowledge and strength to him....

There are many miracles and events happened in his life...

Probably Viggop can bring out from his armoury..

[PhillipHer]

Pandya queen was Mangayarkarasi.She was also a devout shiva bhaktha and is also considered as a nayanmar.I dont think it was sampandhar who will curse the king to become sick.
It was sampandhar who called "Thirunavukarasar" by the name "appar"(a father).That is because sampandhar was a kid and appar was quite old enough to be his father.

Gnanasampandhar will come to present day chennai(mayilapur etc.). he is said to have broght back a dead girl to life in mayilapur

[9mm_fan]

[quote="Raghu"]

Originally Posted by Raghu Dear Balaji anNe and Viggop anNe, I will remove the poll...

Deleted. Dear RR thanks 4 this, i was unable to remove the poll, once created.

Dear Balaji AnNE and Viggop AnNe.

Can some one tell me in which century, Thirugna Sambhanthar was born?, was it in the 17th??

thanks[/quote

Dear Raghu,

Pl go through my previous posting... given below again :

]Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:02 am Post subject: About Gnana Sambandhar
Must have lived during the early years of the seventh century AD That Sambandar is a contemporary of Appar and Siruttondar, otherwise known as Parañjotiyar, is evident from the legend in the Periyapuranam. We know Paranjötiyar was the Commander-in-chief of the Pallava King Narasimha Varnian I who distinguished himself against the Chãlukyas. According to inscriptional evidence, Narasimhavarman I succeeded Mãhêndravarman I in A.D. 630 and continued his rule to A.D. 660. Thus the age of Sambandar must be looked for sometime in the middle of the seventh century A.D.

[Peptobismol]

Dear Raghu,

Great thread…. One suggestion…. As there were 63 great characters…. I WISH WE TAKE UP PERSON BY PERSON AND FOLLOW THAT SEQUENCE….

Also, Viggop is right. we should not do any polling….

[PhillipHer]

Kolaru padhigam starts with the following lines :


VEYORU THOLI PANGAN VIDAMUNDA KANDAN… MIGA NALLA VEENAI THADAVEE…..

Sambandhar sang this in praise of Lord Shiva…..

[Beerinkol]

Originally Posted by S.Balaji Sambandhar’s KOLARU PADHIGAM is a very famous one… Its about all the planets . It is a firm belief even now that those who read this sloka will get rid of all their dosham from the negative effect of the planets…

Balaji AnNe, any ideas as to where I can get this keerthanai,pls? Giri Traders... Just opposite to Kapaaleeshwarar Temple ... Mylapore...

There , you will get everything you want