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10-14-2005, 08:00 AM
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Mr Gandhi!
If you go back and see - you can notice that i have not initiated any discussion addressed towards Mr. Sudhaama, i merely replied to his posts addressed to me. regards geno 
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10-14-2005, 08:00 AM
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Solomon lied:
Every one of us would love Our Mother Tongue to be the best in the world and Tamil to be the Oldest. Lie no !: That Tamil is his mother tongue! While the Earliest of Tamil Literaure Tholkappiyam is dated to 350 CE, That's lie no 2. we have Sanskrit Literature Like Valmiki Ramayan aound 1000BCE, That's lie no 3. And we have complete manuscript with Carbon14 dated to 1st Century CE. That's lie no 4. Vedas- which is in unrefined SANSKRIT is dated now 2000-600 BCE That's lie no 5. First written Rig veda 600BCE but many Tamil Scholars in eagerness to lift Tamil try to date Sanskrit to later date, without proper basis. That's lie no 6. Tamil Scholars don't care a cent for sanskritic tales. As friends shows, the earliest Brahmi- Stone inscrptions have Telugu and Kannada words dated 300 BCE, though we donot have any literature from this languages for another 1000 years atleast. So?? Good! Looks like Teluge and Kannada are also older that that Sanskrit mongrel. We should accept that Sanskrit and Tamil as Two Eyes of India. What the hell sanskrit for?? To read the Kamasutra of Vatsayana - which has a chapter on seducing your neighbours wife too. Devabhasa eh? Eyes of India eh?? European Scholars, seeing that Sanskrit Literature- has somuch, said Indians cannot have such Knowledge and Identified SAnskrit is from them and called Aryans- for which there is no basis. The 'Europeans' are right - agreed by many Indian sanskritics too. Anybody trying to call a section of Indians, as Aryan or Dravidian accept that Indians are not knowlegable. They are divided! Aryans are there and Dravidians were there long before! Let us be proud of both. What the hell for?? So that you and your likes can make more mess, coming around later telling 'Sanskrit is the Gospel etc'.. MosesMohammedSolomon From you name - I know you are a menace! |
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10-27-2005, 08:00 AM
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solomon said:
I Need not have to get a Certificate to Prove my mother Tounge is. Do you have any to proof your mother-in-law tongue?? Appears like it is Sanskrit! Dating of Literature is not done by me, but by Scholars especially without any internal motives. Tholkappiayam Dating with any Previuous needs appropriate proofs. Tamil Literature is generally written in OLA and they cannot be preserved morethan 300 years, where as Bible was written on Leather and Papyrus. Similarly Ramayan Manuscript of 100 CE is dated to Ist Cen is in BARODA Museum, you can verify. Dating of RAamayan I gave is accepted by DevanayaPavanar and ALL International Universities, see www.wikhipedia.com Who are Scholars you are taking of?? YOu said, you said that the Tholkappiam was written 350CE, which scholars said that. You also said that the Ramayana was written 1000 BCE -- which scholars said that?? YOu pointed to one 'wikipedia' where nothing is stated about the Ramayana manuscript. The Baroda Museum has just got some recent paintings of Ramayana scences - nothing there that we can safely call a 'ramayana manuscript'. Devaneya Pavanar stated nothing about the Ramayana date - his book 'Vadamozhi Varalaaru' - refered. He just mentions that the Mahabaratha 'occured about 1000 BCE'. Nothing he said about the date of the Ramayana scripting by Mr. Valmiki! He did not even give a date for Mr Vyasa! So stop your lies! But evidence from Archealogy at Babylon and other places dates Vedas to 2000 BCE to 600 BCE, whereas Books of Moses to later than 350 BCE. See Cambridege, Oxford or any reputed Universities, researches. What 'evidence'?? you Talking?? Don't pull a fast one! India- properly Hindustan derives from the name -The Land mass between Himalayas to Indumaha Samudram, the previleaged place of God, and people here are Hindus, and Bible book of Esther-200BCE, names Hindu country. Watch it! There as some Vedics here who hates that name = Hindu - the persian given name to the people there! Moreover Indian Culture extended up to Babylon, i.e., Iran and Iraq, the Khandara of Mahabharat is in Afganistan-Ghandahar of Highjack fame etc., Or is it the other way round. Vedic Indian culture came from the West! Tholkappiar was Brahmin, who new Sanskrit and refers to Sanskrit Thrice for accepting Sanskrit words to Tamil and Sanskritized Letters (Vadamozhi), Tiruvalluvar uses Adi in Kural no 1 and other places, whereas Present Dravidian Govts changed the name Agaradhi- to AgaraMudali? Who told you Tholkappiar was a Brahmin?? Must be Mr UV Swaminatha Iyer! He talks about 'Vadamozhi' not Sanskrit! Sangam Literature names Nanmarai many a times and hiding this is foolish. So? What is Nanmarai? What do they refer to when the Sanga pulavars say 'Nanmarai'? Give some examples from Sanga pulavars on the 'nanmarai'. Anyway, what is wrong in mentioning the nanmarais in Sangam Literature when they even talked about the Jews and Greeks in Sangam Literature? I do not wear My Special Dresses daily and till Writing was Perfected Sanskrit was not used in Stone Inscriptions and that doesnot mean it does not exisit earlier. Why was the first Sanskrit inscription dated around 200CE in Brahmi script and not in any earlier Script? What is the earlier script (if any) of the Sanskrit people?? Pali is clearly a Collequial Sanskrit and Nobody can backdate it. It is not 'clearly' a colloquial Sanskrit! Can you clear it for me please! Another Big myth, Sanskrit was never spoken, Friends these Popular Foolish statements may get Applause in meetings, but any Serious and Sincere Linguistic Scholar would not put such Statement, every one knows it takes Centuries for the formation to take place. Who spoke Sanskrit?? How many spoke that throughout the ages, and where did they live?? Moreover Literary evidences tells much, Ramayan and Mahabarat are in more sppech toungue, where as Kalidas etc., goes to highly Gramerised Yappu, and that was the reason for slow moving of Sanskrit fom common person, where as Veda Vyasa had Non-Brahimin Disciples. Which came first - Kalidas or Ramayan/Mahabarat?? Get your order clear. And since when did Mr. Veda Vyasa become a Brahmin - that now you can brag that he had some non-brahmins with him? We Cannot understand Tamil if Pure Senthamilz is spoken, we need Explanations for Even Tirukural. Which is in Simple Tamil. Why? YOu can't understand modern English if you vocabulary is limited. That coupled with similies and idiomatic expressions - you will be lost when you read modern english. Why can't it be the same for Tamil - when all that was written were mostly poetical! You just need a dictionary - English or Tamil or any other language - to go around! What do you understand of this english words - commonly used now - permissive, inventive, impulsive, compulsive, evasive, exhaustive, expensive, constructive, impressive .... ? Go, run for a dictionary! If anybody accept Tamil and Sanskrit, he is not a Anti-Tamil but accepts Truths. Nobody bothers about Sanskrit! But, those Sanskritic lies these vedic stooges keep telling is irritating! DevanaeyaPavanar a Christian started Falsehood, and he uses theBible Genesis story of Noah flood, by dating the book to 5000BCE, which is actually 300 BCE, and that the Cosmic flood dated by Bible in 2200BCE, is now rejected as a Pure Legend, as Mummies and Indus-Saraswathy Archealogy proves. Where did Pavanar talk about Noah Flood?? Name it, solomon where?? I have seen his books all of them! Stop your tales! Sanskrit and Tamil was created from common say Proto-Indian Language and hence similarites always is there, and religious beliefs say that way only. "say Common Proto-Indian"... What you started guessing? Dream on, my brother! |
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11-01-2005, 08:00 AM
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Thiru Srinivasan avargaLae!
//TAMIL only originated from North India, on the banks of Saraswathi River while the rest of the country was only Forests. Even during the Ramayana period we find that the South India as also the Nasik region of Western India was so. // So they said Sanskirit was older than Thamizh first, then they said Mohenjadaro and Harappa belonged to Sanskirit speaking "Aryans." Then they said the oldest civilization is from the bank of "KalaimakaL" river and now they accept Thamizh as the Oldest language but say the origin of Thamizh is in the north? How far will these people go to say that what they say is RIGHT?! //DIVIDE AND RULE Policy // I didn't think there was a necessity for such thing. I wonder how English is well spoken throughout India, after all it was of the 'Slave Master' language...shouldn't it be ignored? Divide and Rule eh? If something the British should be blamed for then it is for uniting different nations and handing it to the Hindis! //Aariya" naattinar aanhmaiyoadu iyatrum seeriya muyarchigalh. "Aariyarum" nara veeriyarum...... Vandhae maatharam// What we see here is a mis-interpretation of Bharathi. He may have thought that all people under the so called Indian Union which was created by British to be of the same root and thought everyone was from same nationality? [I am not talking about "Human" nationality]. //in the days of Linguistic origination, who were subsequently named as ARYANS in Sanskrit, which means ... Uthaman... Great-Man.// Like Thiru A P Masilmani said once the word Aryan rooted from the Thamizh word 'arivu' and which changed form in Arabic and similarly in Sanskirit. These people called themselves as Aryans. Aryan means Intellectual and no one called them that, they called themselves and Thiru A P MASILMANI gave the relationship between the word 'Ariyan' and with the names like "Eur"ope and "Ir"aq and "Ir"eland. //In fact the word DRAVIDA is a Sanskrit term, the Sanskrit DHAATHU for which is ... "DRU".... meaning ..."MOVE".// There are two accepted roots of the word Dravidan. First one is the word "Thamizh" Since these aryans couldn't pronounce Thamizh rightfully, they called Thamizhars as, "Dramilars" and eventually it became as "Dravidars." Hence; Thamizh ---> Dramil ---> Dravid Thamizhars ---> Dramilars ---> Dravidars The second definition which I first heard from Thiru A P MASILMANI...as followed Dravida(m) rooted from the word Thiruvidam and thats how the Kazha AkarAthi explains it etc. The Aryans called the now day South India as "Thiruvidam" referring to the Temples in the Southern Countries...(consult Thiru A P MASILMANI regarding that). //From the same Dhaathu, the word "Dravyam" meaning Money / Wealth since it always passes from hand to hand and does not remain at one place.// If I understood what you said rightfully, above you said the word Dru comes from Dhaathu and Dhaathu means 'move' and I believe you have related that with 'nAdodikaL.' If so then how would the quote below which you gave would sound... //THIRAI KADAL OADIYUM DHIRAVIYAM THAEDU// Go over sea and search and gather "move?" I believe the word Dhiraviyam is Thamizh or to have a reasonable Thamizh root. I look forward to Thiru A P MASILMANI explanation on this Word. //That is how the Hinduism originated in India., // Vedas could have been Thamizhar works. If Mahabharatham was created by Thamizh Hunter to spread Thamizh religions in the similar way Ramayanam was created (where Thiru A P MASILMANI agreed that Valmiki may not have been the original writer of Ramayanam and thats what many scholars believe but lack of evidence to prove the theory), I don't know where the so called "Hinduism" believe to have originated from. Thiru A P MASILMANI explained the root of the word 'Indhu' which is the root of the word 'Hindu' and I believe he said "Indhu" means peaceful. Thus the coined word 'Hindu' should mean peaceful religion. I am sure that you are aware of the fact that there was no term 'Hindu' and this is a term that probably have originated during European Times or perhaps during the late British Years. Thamizhars believe originated inside Thamizhars and these beliefs which were followed as religions were fully Thamizhars ideas and although there wasn't any religious form in Sangath Thamizh Literature time, the main Thamizh religions appear to be Sivaniyam and Maaliyam from Pallavar Times. However the deities like Murugan and someone similar to nowday Sivan was prayed during Sangath Thamizh Literature Time. The Aryans had similar Gods like Thamizhars or they may have copied Thamizh God. One example of confusion is that of Thamizh God Murugan and Aryans God Subramaniyan. Vividly Murugan seem to have one wife and that is 'vaLLi' in Thamizh. However the Aryan Murugan had a wife called 'TheivANai' which then formulated into the union of Thamizh Murugan Deity and Aryan's Subramaniyan and hence now you have two wifes for the God Murugan. The similar problem arise in the situation of Thamizh God 'KaNNan' and Aryan God similar to Thamizh God 'KaNNan.' It is perhaps that this God was adopted by Aryans from Thamizhars. The term "Hinduism" denotes to all religions that formed in nowday so called Indian Union and the one that came from nowday Afghanistan. Remember that the religions like Buddhism, Jainism, Sivaniyam, Maaliyam, Vaithikam, Sikkhism falls under the term "Hindu." //That is how Sanskrit is called as Deva-Bhasha for Hindus, (similar to Arabic for Muslims and Hebrew for Christians, since their Gospels are written in those Languages).// Thats a dumb believe! Just because the religions like Christianity and Islam have such languages doesn't mean the "Hinduism" has Sanskirit. Sanskirit wasn't the root of HINDUISM! Would you ask why that Thamizh alphabets don't have capitals and English does? Obviously it doesn't say in any rules to 'must' have a capital alphabet and Thamizh doesn't need one either, 247 letters enough for many things. Similarly however you should understand that Islam has Arabic as the main language because people who spoke Arabic formed the first 'Islamic' group. Not only that but there are some things that I read which points out that Islam religion to have originated from the Pagan Religion which once was there in nowday Middle East, again I am not fully sure regarding that info but you should be aware of the religion that was followed in nowday Iran and Iraq before the Islam became popular there. Christianity base it self in Latin and Greek because one of the "ancient" part of Bible to have been written first in Greek and then later on Roman Empire accepted Christianity If I am correct and you know that Latin and Greek forms the Important bone for many European Languages. If Thamizh is the World first language and evidently so called Hinduism rooted from Thamizh Then Thamizh should be accepted as THE DIVINE LANGUAGE! MOST OF ALL THE "POOSAI" [NOT POOJA!] should be conducted in SenThamizh (pure Thamizh). Thiruganasambanthar explain in his thevarams about how 'poosai' was done during his days (which was during Pallavar rules after the "time after Sangam" in Thamizh Literature). The way we describe the real poosai as 'vAikattip poosai' seithal which is still done in KathirgAmam ('Thetku Eezham') and in Sannathi Temple in Thamizheezham. There is no need to say manthiram and manthiram really doesn't do anything! If one were to convert everything that a brahmin say in the so called Manthiram then it would either look and sound like a Thevaram or perhaps more like "long live God." nanRi, paNivu THIRU SRINIVASAN avargaLae, I also look forward to Thiru A P MASILMANI's comment on this topic. mEendum SanthippOm, nanRi. |
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11-05-2005, 08:00 AM
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Dear Mr. Geno,
Your wordings... are HIGHLY OBJECTIONABLE... being aimed at a particular community... IRRELEVANT... either to the Topic... nor the Context... I feel HURT by your such Mockery... which is PROVOCATIVE. Anybody can mock at others way of life... if he wishes to STOOP DOWN... by Calibre... becoming CHEAP.... But is it fair? My principle too... fall in line with that of Mahakavi Bharathi and Dr. Ambedkar ... Let us both follow the HIGH CALIBRE of Dr. Ambedkar... as Gentlemen of Mutual-Respect.. I am having high REGARD for you as a Gentleman... and I will not be happy to hear any criticism on you from others... on which if I am not able to DEFEND your Calibre. Please DON'T DISAPPOINT ME... Affectionately, Sudhaama. |
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11-06-2005, 08:00 AM
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Sanskrit is our rashtra basha. we should learn sanskrit to read our religious literature. |
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11-09-2005, 08:00 AM
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Let me first clarify something, the article of Daninos was something I stumbled upon on the net and posted it here because I thought it would be interesting to find out what other people thought about this.
pirayaani Here is a counterreply: "let us take an unbiased look at the cultural backdrop of early Tamil society and try to make out some of its mainstays... Also, I will not deal here with the origin of South Indian people and languages, or with the nature of the process often called "Aryanization of the South" (I prefer the word "Indianization," used in this context by an archaeologist" That sentence tells you how unbiased he is. "Indianization" indeed. Meaning, of course, that he thinks Tamil culture was not Indian before the northern influences started. Why can't vedicists accept that "vedic" and "Indian" are not synonymous? Actually, that article is full of distortions and mistakes. Here are a few examples: Yes, and the very next line says "imizhkadal vEli THAMIZHAKAM viLanka". This is a very clear indication that Tamizhakam was considered different from the conquered lands, and yet the author completely suppresses this line. > This is totally incorrect. The "great northern mountains" are the tirumalai hills which have for aeons been accepted as the borders of Tamilakam. To try and represent them as the Himalayas (which are always mentioned by name as "amaiya" in the sangam texts) either displays utter ignorance or is deliberate falsification. Yes, let us. Especially the conclusion of the Maduraikkandam: "vaDa Ariyar paDaikaDanthu then thamizhnADorungukANa puraithIr kaRpin thEvi". Note especially how Ilangovadikal contrasts "vada Ariyar" with "then thamizh naadu". And yet this man still insists that "they clearly saw the subcontinent as one entity"!! He also totally misrepresents the Dravidianist viewpoint. Dravidianists *actually* say that the sangam literature clearly shows vedic culture to have been a "foreign" element that was starting to make inroads into the ancient Dravidian culture. This man, however, misleadingly pretends that we are arguing that sangam literature was uninfluenced by vedic culture. He totally ignores the masses of evidence that the lower castes revered nadukkals (hero-stones), ancestors and conducted Amman rituals that were totally alien to vedic culture! If this paper was actually accepted at a Vedic workshop, I can only marvel at how poor standards of scholarship have become amongst vedicists. A paper this poorly researched would have been laughed out at any Dravidian session. Vedicists should learn some Dravidian rationalism! Ponna |
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11-12-2005, 08:00 AM
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Thiru shudaama,
I complement something to your passage. The indiran worship and indu religion was evolved out from tamil culture. In the sameway tamil produced paly(vada pali) language. Paly turned into Pragrid. Then Sanskirit was formed in archesstrated way. Again sanskrit mixed with tamil formulating other dravidian languages. Tamil was not originated in north but in deep south kondwana kingdom- lemuria kingdom,kumari river,kamari mountain ,pagruli river background. We can now prove that through archeology,anthropology and geology enviromental science. All 32 dielects of tamil are now spoken by tribes in southern hemisphere of earth namely south america,south africa and australia. Hence languages/ men migrated from south to north. south to north west and so on. If all world historieans find more evidences in this perspective it will help to make a globalised version of history. The other way of finding out history will be creating lot of confusions and we have to again and again switch over to new theories like aryan theory, meditaranean theory and Central asian theory which are now proved to be wrong. There are lot of evidences proved that like americans today tamilieans overrule the world through their businesses and culture before 3000 years back. Tamils contribute to eriteria,kaltheya,babylonea,Greece,Egypt and other meditaranean civilizations. Tamil neel/neer is now nile. Puramedugal now Pyramids. 'Erithirai' now Red sea/eriteria. 'Aram' now Arabia. Thilmunai now pagrain(old name of partain in thilmun). Hundreds of words of tamil origin in Indo european language(a wrong classification made by maxmuller). Go through a book called 'dravidar varalaru' if any objection you can call it tamil varalaru- written by sothi prakasam. The same person has written 'Aryan varalaru'. Hence tamils hereafter should not depend on sanskrit. They should have a vision that sanskrit root words are with tamil. All sanskrit words are one or combination of tamil words phonetically changed/shrinked. In this way if the perception is formulated a new breakthrough would be produced in history. |
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11-14-2005, 08:00 AM
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Nedunchezhiyan avargaLE!
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12-20-2005, 08:00 AM
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//SenThamizh (pure Thamizh). //
mannikka vaendum I shouldn't have said 'pure Thamizh,' there is only 'Thamizh.' |
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01-01-2006, 08:00 AM
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"Idiappam"
//When would Mr Sudhamaa stop telling the hubbers what to do and what not to do!// Dear Mr Idiappam... Have I said anything malice to anyone or hurting anybody?... It seems you have neither understood my intentions nor the healthy sense of my words hereabove. Please go through once again and tell me... what you found wrong in it. Being a Senior citizen in the last chapter of life... I am a well-wisher to one and all . including YOU...or even a Stranger... ... and whatever I say are only SUGGESTIONS... towards the Unified Happiness of one and all here. Especially .. I feel it my duty to point out... (where others may hesitate.). in the ANGLE OF THE VIEWERS... ... as well as in the interest of the Person whom I ADDRESS or comment on. I am the well-wisher of Mr. Geno too ...and I know how much regard he reposes on me... whom I have praised and invited to continue in this by his personally initiated postings too... (please see...my remarks hereabove)... So I have addressed him and conveyed my views consoling on his disapointment ...It is between Him and me... since addressed in his name... At the same time.. I wanted to invite any Reader to continue the postings here... so I invited all my Friends' kind attention too indirectly. //Mr Geno, Lets get on with this thread!// Yes...I too had said the same. Welcome Mr. Idiappam... I am anxious to hear you... since you are well-knowledged in certain areas... especially on Tamil... So I will be happy to read your postings. So my request to Mr. Geno... is repeated to you too. Please gather the due particulars ... and post here... ... which both of you are capable of. |
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01-10-2006, 08:00 AM
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01-15-2006, 08:00 AM
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01-22-2006, 08:00 AM
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Dear geno & sudhaama,
I need not tell,"Let us not have personal attack in discussion" to you. Because, you are all,I detect from you discussions, the persons of good calibre and knowledge. Afterall nobody wins over another in debate. At the sametime debate can bring forth some realities of topic. Let us concentrate on issues and their supportives. While talking about crucial issues there is a chance of our wordings move in different path. We all should try to avoid at the maximum such happenings. Due to personal attack the flow of informations and discussions stopped abruptly and those who follow your discussions get disappointment. When sudhaama could not answer Mr. Nedunchezhiyan's queries Mr. Geno would have concluded with his remarks in support of Mr.Nedunchezhiyans views. Then everybody would have the satisfaction of eating the full meal of discussion. Every ideology turns negative(atleast one or two -ve side effects) in its extreme level is true in world history. Atheism/culture revolutionary is not ruled out to this. In an urgent haste move to revive social emancipation(which was required also) The god inththran/varunan heritage was thrashed out which happen to be a proof of culture that led the north Indians stick to sarasvathi culture of india and claim this was the prime culture of India than sinthu valley. The secular character of tamil sangam literature also attacked by such groups telling tamils dont have any history. We need not blame separately any social group and all the society is responsible for that worst nature of caste system in India. I expect best concluding remarks from geno to complete the discussion. f.s.gandhi |
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01-31-2006, 08:00 AM
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dear fsgandhi vandaiyar,
could you kindly enlighten us on what mr.mathivanan have deciphered in the indus valley civilisaton script,seal,s? what do they pronounce like in sweet tamil ? -thankyou. |
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02-02-2006, 08:00 AM
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Dear Mr. Geno,
If they are able to continue participation here, they would have done it, without our invitation or Reminder... We have to guess .. they are busy due to some reasons... personal. So we should not distrurb them... but be satisfied with the postings they have already made here. ... with the same spirit... like we have applied in Kambaramayanam thread.... ... where, by the abrupt discontinuation.. the characters as well as we the Readers... were left in the mid Jungle !!. . I think.... for this healthy Thread....Nobody is INDISPENSABLE... including You and Me.. Why Not you PICK UP the Thread here and continue... you being rich enough with wealthy Knowledge... especially in History. If any particulars for posting here... is readily Not available... You are capable of Elliciting and Gathering the necessary particulars and post here.... .. on which I will join with the discussions...... whatever I can. |
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02-07-2006, 08:00 AM
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I forgot to tell about the pathetic thing that the Sanskirit and Aryan fanatic did, which was trying to erect a horse on one of the seal found in Mohenjadaro and Harappa Archealogical dig to make things look like they belonged to Aryan Civilizations.
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03-01-2006, 08:00 AM
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03-17-2006, 08:00 AM
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Dear Mr.RSSkaran,
// Sanskrit is our rashtra basha. we should learn sanskrit to read our religious literature.// Can you explain more what rashtra basha means ? And Dear Mr. geno, I am not able to read your column here because I don' t have tamil font installed into my computer. Can anybody give information to download and install such font from web ? What is the way ? f.s.gandhi |
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