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10-20-2005, 08:00 AM
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Mr. "n"
If you have gone through my presentations in the earlier pages of this thread, you would not have raised this doubt. Because you can observe that I have built up the Salient factors step by step before asserting to this conclusion of unique Priority-order of Tamilian-Culture. However on this point, I further clarify herebelow. Spiritual-power must not be confused with Religious inclination or attitude or Faith ... (which may or may not come to any man at all during his any part or whole of life) Even though Spirituality is linked with Religion also, it is in fact an independant might by source unlike Religious-spirit. So to say... Religious-Spirit or thoughts allied to it, are generated in a man only by the mode of his application of Mind and Wisdom. at any stage of Life. So that is a different aspect altogether. There have been also the cases of Non-believers of God, so called irreligious Atheists too, having Spiritual-Powers or thoughts. Spiritual-Strength is innate by birth for every Human-being as are the cases of other strengths like Physical-power, Brain-power, Mind-power. Spiritual-power is further developed or let to stoop down depending on the extent and mode of application of that exclusive Human-might, as is the case of other powers in man. So to say... if a physically strong person keeps idle without application of his physical-power on any activity or work... in course of time he becomes sick or weak. Similarly if a wise man does not apply his Wisdom effectively... in course of time... he loses his wisdom-level. Education from the stage of a tiny tot adds up to Man's knowledge.... But it has nothing to limit or bind on the Wisdom-level. There have been illiterates too... even in the remote villages... or the tribals even... wiser than an Educated man! What is meant by... "Spiritual-Power"... in the Practical-Sense? That Singular innate power ..... hidden in him behind... apart from his Sixth sense by Wisdom ..... which makes a man think and apply his efforts and outlook differently and in a higher plane than the other Sub-Human Creatures like Beasts, Birds, Insects etc .... that inexplicable power... makes him differentiate and classify the Thoughts and Activities as... Human and In-human... that Moral-Power ... is the Spiritual-Power. No doubt Spiritual-power leads to Religious or Philosophical thoughts... depending on ones extent and standard of application..... IRRESPECTIVE OF ONE'S AGE. About Tamilian-Culture on Spiritual-Power .... the Role and Importance?? The first Lesson of a Tamil-Student in his Primary Class is.... «Èõ ¦ºÂ Å¢ÕõÒ. (Aram seya Virumbu) (Always) Wish to perform by Moral-approach / Righteousness towards Human- Values/Virtues of Life Followed by.... ®ÅРŢÄ째ø. (Eevadhu Vilakkael) ³Âõ þðÎ ¯ñ. (Aiyam Ittu Unh) ... ("Aiyam". is a SPIRITUAL-OFFER coupled with dignity for the receiver.... contrary and far different from "Pichai"... I have dealt in detail under other Threads here... e.g. Pazhamozhigal and Thiruppaavai) µÐÅÐ ´Æ¢§Âø (Oadhuvadhu Ozhiyael) ¾ó¨¾ ¾¡ö §Àñ (Thandhai-thaay paenh) ¿ýÈ¢ ÁȧÅø. (Nanri Maravael) «Èò¾¡ø ÅÕŧ¾ þýÀõ (Araththaal Varuuvadhae Inbam) «Èõ ±ÉôÀÎŧ¾ þøÅ¡ú쨸. (Aram Enappaduvadhae Ilvaazhkkai) Does any Language Primary Lesson starts with the sense of ... ARAM SEYA-VIRUMBU? English primary Lesson starts with Baba Black-Sheep ... and Tom And Jerry... .... Is there any mention of "Aram" (Moral-values of Life).... anywhere?... ... If it exists ... at What Stage of the Student? Well... you can compare the Content with similar Student-Lesson-Texts of other Languages and you will be able to judge yourselves. |
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10-29-2005, 08:00 AM
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Srinivasan,
I think the Tamil Culture outlook prioritizes as follows: 1) Mind 2) WISDOM 3) SPRITUAL 4) Physical If you note thirukkuraL or other ancient Literature, "kalvi" mathi kooramai are valued more compared to spiritual. Also spiritual is follwed more feverenlty at the old age where areas at the young age wisdom is follwed... "iLamaiyiR kal" -avvai |
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10-31-2005, 08:00 AM
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The RUDIMENTARY HISTORICAL TRUTH, based on deep Research studies by many of the Non-British Historians,
... especially the Fench and the Germans,... ... which HISTORY ALONE has been INTERNATIONALLY ACCEPTED.. ... by the Leading Research-Scholars of the whole world... ... as well as UNIVERSALLY documented as AUTHENTIC. (1) The FIRST CLASSICAL LANGUAGE of Humanity? The FIRST LANGUAGE ever spoken by Mankind anywhere in the whole world is.... undoubtedly.... TAMIL only originated from North India, on the banks of Saraswathi River while the rest of the country was only Forests. Even during the Ramayana period we find that the South India as also the Nasik region of Western India was so. In the regions of the present Turkey, Burma, and Middle-East the Humans were only Savages. The rest of the world mostly were capped up with Ice. (2) Who the ARYANS? British dictators purposively made the false histories written just with a malefic intention of DIVIDE AND RULE Policy over the huge mass of enslaved but wise Indians on the whole. Dr Ambedkar used to call himselves as the True Aryan. Mahakavi Bharathi says... "Aariya" naattinar aanhmaiyoadu iyatrum seeriya muyarchigalh. "Aariyarum" nara veeriyarum...... Vandhae maatharam Whom does the Tamil-poet Bharathi mean as ARYANS and which country does he call as ARIYANAADU ? It is totally wrong to say that the so called ARYANS entered into India as Domiciles from the Middle-East and that the most Ancient people of India were called as DRAVIDIANS. In fact there were no separate Races as Aryans and Dravidians. The so called Aryans were the Indian nationals BY BIRTH and NOT BY DOMICILE. There were ONLY ONE RACE initially all over India, then confined to only the Northern part and that Race was the Aryans. the descrption of their complexion height and look are all the False stories, Myth and Imaginary creations made by the British rulers who invaded on the Indian Culture too. There were only one mass of people in North India, in the days of Linguistic origination, who were subsequently named as ARYANS in Sanskrit, which means ... Uthaman... Great-Man. In Sanskrit Literature and stories we can find the wife addressing the Husband as ARYA. Even Seetha-Dhevi addressed so as per Valmiki Ramayana. (3) Who the DRAVIDA? First of all we have to think over, from which Language this Word DRAVIDA has emanated? Is it a Tamil word?. No Not at all. Because the Tamil Language does not have the cluster of letters like Dra, Pla, Kru etc., whereas Sanskrit and all other Indian Languages have so. In fact the word DRAVIDA is a Sanskrit term, the Sanskrit DHAATHU for which is ... "DRU".... meaning ..."MOVE". From the same Dhaathu, the word "Dravyam" meaning Money / Wealth since it always passes from hand to hand and does not remain at one place. And why the so called Dravidians were named so? The Sanskrit word DRAVID means WAGABOND ("Naadoadi" in Tamil) Why should they be called so ? One section of the people were highly intelligent, enterprising and ADVENTUROUS enough (similar to British) to boldly venture into new areas of the forests and make an advanced life there. This sections of people were mockingly called as WAGABONDS (Dravid in Sanskrit) by their own brethren who were contented to be static in the specific regions already well-developed. Whereas the moving Indians advanced more ahead by means of wisdom, sincerety and hard toil.... as the History speaks of the Tamilians of Sri Lanka, Malaysia, Singapore and elsewhere, well-known for such exemply Human potentialities coupled with with high human calibre. The proverbs .... YAADHUM OORAE YAAVARUM KAELHIR.... and .... .... THIRAI KADAL OADIYUM DHIRAVIYAM THAEDU.... .... are only in Tamil, and in no ther Languages anywhere in the world. (4) Origin of the new Language SANSKRIT? The first Group of Mankind speaking Tamil had no Religions of their own but were worshipping the Sun as the Super-power. They were mostly eating Pond-Fish and Agro-products.. Later the Rishis came to these regions, who called themselves as the messengers of God. The local people believed it because they had some Super-human powers and declared that they had seen God with naked eyes. New skilss like Manthra-sathram, Dhanur-Sasthram (Bow & Arrow), Ayur-Vedam, Jothisham, Vaana Sasthram etc. added honour to that subsequent classical language. That is how the Hinduism originated in India., through which the Language Sanskrit were taught by the Rishis, along with the Vedas as Gospels, naming it as the VOICE OF GOD. That is how Sanskrit is called as Deva-Bhasha for Hindus, (similar to Arabic for Muslims and Hebrew for Christians, since their Gospels are written in those Languages). Kings encouraged that Deva-basha, spread it amongst the Linguistic scholars but considered Tamil as a cheap Tribal Language and inferior to Sanskrit., which alone were suited for the Intellectuals. So the Kings and the Scholars were conversing in Sanskrit while the people were speaking Tamil. In course of time both the languages got mixed up in different forms at different regions and got named as various initial Offshoot Languages like Pali and Prakrit. We can note in Sakunthalam original text written by the Sanskrit poet Kalidasa,.... King Dushyantha speaks to Sakunthalai ( Tribal-girl) in SANSKRIT .... !!! .... while Sakunthalai as also the Fishermen speak in PRAKRIT ??? Since Sanskrit was attributed as the Godly Language it was given high honour by the Kings, without whose adequate support, Tamilians could not comparatively flourish well. So they had to move down far south towards the dense forests leaving off their original settlements in North India. (5) How different Languages within ONE COUNTRY of ONE RACE? After several centuries of origination of Tamil, these various groups of people migrated to different regions of North India, speaking the admixed forms of Tamil and Sanskrit with further additions of foreign languages like Arab, Persian, Portugese, Latin and Greek in different modes., named them as separate languages. .... If the Tamilians of Kanyakumari, Thirunelveli, Coimbatore, Madurai,Chennai and SriLanka do not mutually meet for more than a century, the various forms of Tamil they are using now would have been named as different Languages other than Tamil. (6) TAMIL ... NOT... a Deva-basha...DIVINE LANGUAGE ? Subsequently... rather very late after several centuries... the Tamil-speaking section of people of one and the same race came to know that TAMIL ALSO IS A DEVA-BASHA (Divine-Language) since they found that even an ordinary man, an illiterate Hunter, innocent Farm-labour, and an ignorant Pot-maker could speak with Gods in Tamil as well as see Him in different forms of their choice as Lord Vishnu, Vinayaka, Siva, Muruha, Kali and so on ... the Deities of the same Religion, so called SANATHANA-DHARMA or Hinduism. and the ... Gods themselves declared TAMIL ALSO IS THE DEVA-BASHA !!! |
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11-02-2005, 08:00 AM
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From: R.Srinivasan. (U.S.A) (@ ip68*) on: Sun Nov 16 18:43:48
"¯ûÇò¾¨ÉÂÐ ¯Â÷×" Rise in status commensurate with one's thoughts (principles).So says Thirukkuralh. Experience shows that not only by just securing a suitable Educational qualification one can shine in life, but mainly by the due professional knowledge coupled with merit. From: R.Srinivasan. (U.S.A) (@ ip68*) on: Thu Dec 4 16:46:38 EST I wonder and am pained to note from the postings of some of my friends under the various Threads here, commenting on Lord KRISHNA directly and indirectly....as DEBAUCHEROUS....!! Why this SCANDEL?... which is not only radically WRONG but also... a COLOSSAL BLUNDER !! to Say or ILL-BELIEVE so.. ....based on Wrong NOTION or ...unfounded INFERENCE...or ...unjust HATRED.... or ...Lose-Talk due to Total IGNORANCE. ... HOW ? These people come to such wrong conclusions, based on their misunderstanding the Krishna-Leelas as narrated in Bhagawatham, further elaborated in all the other Indian Language-scriptures, including Tamil-Literatures. But nowhere Krishna has been depicted as IMMORAL, as these people attribute. One rudimentary factor, all concerned have to note ....is... that all the Leelas of Krishna were over during BOY-HOOD within his age of 12 (TWELVE). So what all the Krishna's plays we read and hear are only his child-play to enliven, awaken and EMANCIPATE the IGNORANT COW-HERD families. Through them God preaches to the Mankind the high IDEALS of Life and Spiritualism, which is the Backbone of the so called Hindu Religion. One and the same Lord Narayana took TWO BIRTHS as Rama and then Krishna....and while Rama restrained himself with one wife Seetha, Krishna dealt with thousands of Gopi ladies!.... Why? Kings and rich men used to have several wives according to Indian Culture and even in the Hindu Temples we worship Lord Muruha along with his two consorts, Valli-devi and Devaani-devi, Lord Shiva with Parwathi-devi and Ganga-devi, Narayana with Bhooma-devi, Maha-Lakshmi, and Neelhaa-devi. Lord Narayana never speaks INCONGRUENTLY nor preaches INCONSISTENTLY through his various Awatharas (Incarnations)... but one and the same...GOSPELS OF LIFE ...addressing different class of people suiting to each one of them.... ....during THAT Age, SITUATION and Circumstances. Some people even conclude that the King Dasaratha was debaucherous!. Did Dasaratha attempt to lose his character by interfering with any Woman un-wedded to him? What is meant by Debauchery?... Having number of wives...or even Concubines lawfully and morally...is ...not considered as Debauchery.... But if any Man indulges in any illegal or immoral Sexual-affairs with any alien woman or some other's wife....or ...deals with any Prostitute... ...then only it is considered so ...according to Hindu Religion and Moral Code of Practice, ...which is the basis for Hindu-Penal-Code of India. During Rama Awathaaram, several Rishis and such other Male members fell in love with Lord Rama by His Physical Beauty as well as His Unparallel and Invincible Masculine qualities coupled with Human-Propensities. They craved to enjoy by having him as their Husbands and on their inability to treat Him so....just because they were born as Males... When they openly expressed such desire, Lord Rama assured them that they will be born as Women in the form of Gopikas and thus can enjoy the NUANCES OF ROMANCE.... Thus Lord Krishna keeps up to his COMMITMENT.... but ...Even before HE attained Youth i.e., within his BOYHOOD age of 12 (Twelve) ....He appeared to them in the MAYA YOUTH FORM ....as Several thousands of YOUNG KRISHNA.... for only Romance ...just to play with them and ENJOY COLLECTIVELY... ....WITHOUT LUST..... Yes.... Repeatedly........WITHOUT LUST !! ...Nothing BEHIND THE CURTAIN .....nor.....CLANDESTINE activity. ...but true to the Holy Spirit of HEARTY LOVERS ...in Congruence with sense and content of Kaamathuppaal in Thirukkuralh. And Krishna Awatharam is termed as Poorna-Awathaaram, by which he completes his ENDEAVOUR.... ....to PERSONALLY INCULCATE...and ...CORRECT the Wrongs of the Right-people... and ...the Rights of the Wrong people... ...educate the Society on the ....Extremities of Royal-Powers and Human-limitations... ...Instilling CONFIDENCE in the Minds of Righteous people.. and ....further clarify on the MEANING OF LIFE. ... free of BLEMISH by any means under all circumstances....realising ...that the Supreme-Power God will never fail to PROTECT.. ...while making the people KNOW THE WORTH OF REALITIES ... by means of his personal ILLUSTRATION as to.... .. how the Mankind can ENJOY LIFE collectively ..by means of Mutual UNIVERSAL-LOVE... ..and Conscienceous EARNESTNESS. From: R.Srinivasan. (@ ip68*) on: Fri Dec 5 22:47:51 EST 2003. Dear Mr. Chudar, //.... We have heard lot of stuffs like these 'Who is a Brahmin', 'Any good person is a brahmin' etc in the past. These are nothing but fradulent definitions given to Brahminsim to hide the casteist racist undertones of it.//... I am unable to understand why some people are centering around this uncalled for Topic of Brahmins or Brahminism and so on!..... that too unnecessarily !!....If you have anything to say about Casteism and the Social-Injustice or Indiscrimination or Oppression caused by it.... Yes anybody is welcome.... and each and every one of us can put forth our divergent views open-mindedly with no HATRED or ILL-WILL to any ONE CASTE or any Individual by caste...... But why this Particular Community...who were and are INNOCENT IN GENERAL ?.... May be a few individuals who have denigrated too low to deserve as Gentlemen....might have indulged in some unworthy acts.... as is seen in every Community in general ..... and common time to time. Please think over ....whether the Great Dr. Ambedkar ( the Unparallel Gem-Citizen India, who was an Eye-Opener on both the sides of the people concerned)... have ever said so about Brahmins as a whole Community?...Or.... will agree with such baseless allegations.? Mr. Kamaraj....the Great pride of Tamilnadu.... has ever said so like you? ..or.... Mr. Kakan.... the Embodiment of PURITY by Heart and Soul....the True Gandhian of Tamilnadu... said so like you? Please come out frankly....what you have got to blame the Brahmin Community as a whole? ...that too naming as BRAHMIN...."ISM"....!! //..... Except in Ramanujar's history, I dont think non-brahmins ever got 'convereted' to Brahmins.// No doubt Acharya Ramanujar was an Unparallel Social-Reformer too of the time, to an equal degree alongside his Human-Mission towards Religion and Spiritualism. But it is not correct to say that He converted anybody to different Caste. No Not at all. If that were correct.... compared to the disciples of other Acharyas like Sankaracharya and Madhwacharya whose disciples are all invariably Brahmins then and now...... .. why only amongst Ramanujacharya's Disciples (so called SRI-VAISHNAWAS) there are people of all castes right from his time until today? There are even the so called Scheduled Castes whom he equally treated alike with others and named them as "Thirukulathor".... whose specific Caste-name is "Saathaathaar", and are included in the list of Scheduled castes. //.... Has any one Brahmin ever renounced the 'Brahmin' title (s)he got by birth, saying that (s)he is not fit to be a brahmin by definition.// Why should anybody RENOUNCE his caste?.... what for?... ....and Who are You or I to ask or comment about it ?.... ....It is purely a Private affair of the particular individual.... ....No one has any right to comment about it..... ....even in case of any individual... who cannot be deemed fit to be called as Brahmin.... ....due to his malefic acts.... as applicable to any Human of any caste? //... I know personally a lot of such people who are called 'Brahmins' but miles and miles away from leading a good life.// May be..... as is seen in other castes too..... and the Contemporary days are different. The present day Brahmins life in general has become worse....day by day.... due to NO FAULT OF THEM..... Please read Mr. MGR's speeches in this context.... You will know the Realities.... ....And can you ask or comment like this about any other man by name of Caste or Religion.? Because Brahmins alone are Tolerant and Non-Retaliatory..... ...you are able to mudsling on that innocent Community.....irrespective of INDIVIDUALS.!! //So accept that the term Brahmin refers to a caste and brahminism is casteism and nothing more.// ...May be........... as applicable to anybody of any other caste..... there was NEVER so...nor is now....the so called Brahmin..."ISM"... as such. If somebody says so ...it is only a Political Motive to WIN VOTES.... or born out of UNDUE AND UNJUST HATRED towards a Community who have rendered EXEMPLARY SOCIAL SERVICE to Humanity then and doing NOW TOO. Dr.Ambedkar had made a thorough Analytical Research on the matter of Social-discrminition and Oppression by some of the so called Forward communities.... and he never blamed the BRAHMIN COMMUNITY as a whole or in the general sense...... because he knows well about Brahmins.... since he was close to Brahmins through his Mentor Mr. Ambedkar, his Brahmin-Teacher who strongly supported and encouraged and guided him time to time as also consoled whenever unduly hurt by others in the name of Caste. That is why he...the "Dr. Bhimji"... adapted his Brahmin-Teacher's Community name and changed as Bhimji Ambedkar.. ... similar to calling Bhimji Iyer.! Similarly Mr. Kamaraj also knows about Brahmins well, because he worked close along with them during Freedom struggle. and much more than that... he was brought up... from just a Volunteer status to the President of the Party... by a Brahmin Mr. Sathyamoorthi Iyer!! And Mr. Kakan a poor Farmer-labour got educated and rose up in life as also got well-shaped to handle the heavy responsibilities as a Minster at a difficult time... because he was shaped so by a Brahmin....Advocate Mr. Vaidyanatha Iyer.! Mr. Annadurai... who wrote about "Brahmin..ISM"... "Arya-Maayai" and the like ...spitting poison on that Innocent Community during the Primary period of his Social- life..... ....what did he say ultimately in the Conference headed by Rajaji in 1967.... before contesting jointly with 7 party alliance against the Congress-Rule?.....please go through and then comment... He repeanted very much for all his past baseless allegations on Brahmins. Only after seeing such radical change in him, supported by a Brahmin Rajaji... all the Tamilian Brahmins voted in favour of him and his party with full support.... as also worked strenuously and selflessly towards the victory of his party DMK.... which made him Chief-Minister.... So with all the GRATITUDE to Brahmins, he did not repeat his previous undue utterances against them... after he came to power with the support of Brahmins....since he realised his past misunderstanding the True ground Realities. Now some people like you have started kicking the ladder which has brought you up!! From: R.Srinivasan. (U.S.A) (@ ip68*) on: Sun Dec 14 22:53:36 EST. Domination? In some of the Advanced countries in the world now-a-days, there is a growing feeling that the foreigners are capturing the National-citizens' Employment-opportunities by means of tight competetion especially for all the high posts.. Such competition comes mostly from the Indians and Chinese they blame. Consequently they are persuading the respective Governments for total deporting of foreign-employees, replacing them with the nationals... as well as refrain from such recruitments of foreigners as a competition to the nationals. While some Governments are sincerely paying heed to their Appelas and trying their best to restrict this practice, practically they are unable to.... Because the Employers are unable to get adequately qualified National candidates to match not only the optimum but even the minimum requirements of the respective job-demands. Eventually the Employers come back to the respective Governments placing the facts before them.... necessitating foreign recruits... Besides there is a general impression amongst the Employers that the Foreign-recruits fair better in keeping up to the Quality & Standards and Efficient-performance coupled with Result-delivery even with a lower remuneration. Governments are unable to refute this fact for which the Employers who too are the Nationals of the respective country are unable to meet their minimum job-demands by honouring any blanket restrictions on foreigner-recruitments. Such a sort of Triangular-tussle is going on for years. Why? Mainly because such National-citizens who expect the Government and the Respective Society to redress their grievance... are themselves are at fault.... by... ...NOT AVAILING the Abundant opportunities for Educational Advancements provided by the Governments ... or the Options for Self-Employment too provided by the Governments... .... alongside the Encouragements the Peoples' Society and the Managements of Employers are rendering them. Eventually the candidates are neither shaping themselves to stand up to the demands of THEIR NATION ... ...nor in THEIR OWN INTEREST... ... other than BLAMING THE GOVERNMENTS..... ... as allowing the Foreigners Domination over the locals..... ..... Is it Domination?.... Can it be called so? Dr.B.R. Ambedkar... an Eye-Opener Leader for all Indians as well as an Unparallel Social-Reformer for the Down-Trodden as also the Constituitional Sculptor of India.... did his BEST to provide every possible avenue of opportunities for the rapid advancement of the Down-trodden.. ... by dealing with the Government on one side... ... and the Forward-Community people on the other side... .... thirdly with the Downtrodden people themselves to AWAKEN..! .... Ultimately he could achieve his Goal only on those former TWO sides... ... But NOT on the third Side...ie., his Community Down-Trodden people !! He tried his best to make them emulate his own example or at least keep up to a fractional part of it by availing the improved opportunitues got provided by him for Education and Employment got provided by him after his strenuous efforts. Whereas it is a pity that the Great Social-Expert of India could only lament during his later part of life that his words were not duly being honoured by his own Community people... whom he tried his best to convince but failed.... belying his high ambitions towards their uplift. He stoutly disagreed with their plea that even after the Constituitional safeguard provided for the sake of Downtrodden, the Forward community people were dominating over the Down-trodden by grabbing their Opportunities and thus the undue DOMINATION of the Forward communities continue on the Down-trodden. He used to strongly advise the Downtrodden to educate themselves fast... get employed well... as also raise up the fellow-men... instead of blaming other communities..... He used to say.... Life is a Race-course.... and EVERY CITIZEN OF INDIA.... has an EQUAL RIGHT to Advance. ... Horse can be provided for the Jockey.. ... the Race-course can be formed... ... but who has to win the Race? Can an IDLE or SLACK JOCKEY Blame the Horse...? ... or others as ...DOMINATION? |
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11-11-2005, 08:00 AM
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/// "À¡õÒ ±ýÈ¡ø À¨¼Ôõ ¿ÎíÌõ"... ±ýÈ ÀƦÁ¡Æ¢. ///
Dear Thiru Sudhaama, The word pamphu is from root 'pammu' which means 'Adanki Ezhuthal'-'Sulantru thakkuthal'- Virulent attack, 'Marainthu thakkuthal'- hide and attack. The Chola military had 'pampappadai' which was third series in military attack. It followed the rule hide and attack. pamparam - a wood element play in country side. The english word 'Pump' is from french 'pompe' which means virulent attack might have come from Greek which loaned that word from tamil. f.s.gandhi |
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11-17-2005, 08:00 AM
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but this yavarum kelir attitude----
has it not led the tamil to loose their tribal identity,loose their territory.loose the very uniqueness and individuality of the tamil race? we accept and allow other cultures and traditions easily and adopt |
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12-13-2005, 08:00 AM
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Thirumaangalyam so called "THAALI" in Tamil is the Traditional Religious custom ever since the ancient days as well as during Sangaththamizh period.
One of the proofs for this belief is the Andal's Nachiyar Thirumozi sung during Sanga Kalam. In "Vaaranamaayiram" song Andal says:- "¸¡ôÒ ¿¡ñ ¸ð¼ì ¸É¡ì¸ñ§¼ý §¾¡Æ¢ ¿¡ý" And further from the wordings ...Å¡ö ¿øÄ¡÷ ¿øÄ Á¨È µ¾¢ Áó¾¢Ãò¾¡ø....±ý ¨¸ô ÀüÈ¢ò ¾£ÅÄõ ¦ºöÂì ¸É¡ì¸ñ§¼ý..." ...«õÁ¢ Á¢¾¢ì¸ì ¸É¡ì ¸ñ§¼ý..." we can understand that the traditional Vedha-culture was uniform all over India, until foreign Muslim-invasions. |
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12-15-2005, 08:00 AM
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¾Á¢úò ¾¡öì ¸ÕòÐ ²ý?
¬¾¢ ¦ºõ¦Á¡Æ¢¸Ç¡É ì§Ãì¸õ, Äò¾£ý, †£ôå, Áí§¸¡Ä¢Âý (¨ºÉ£Š, ƒôÀ¡É£Š, ¦¸¡Ã¢Âý ¦Á¡Æ¢§À¡ýȨŸÙìÌ ãÄ ¦Á¡Æ¢)§À¡ýȨŸÙìÌõ ż ¦Á¡Æ¢ìÌõ Óý §¾¡ýÈ¢ô ÀÆì¸ò¾¢ø þÕóÐ ÅóÐ, ¾ü§À¡Ðõ ¯Ä¸ «ÇÅ¢ø Å¡úóÐ ÅÕõ ´§Ã ¦ºõ¦Á¡Æ¢ ¾Á¢ú. ¬¾¢ ¸¡Äò¾¢ø ¾Á¢Æ÷¸û ¾Éì¦¸É ´Õ ¾É¢ ¿¡Î ¨ÅòÐì ¦¸¡ûÇ¡Áø ¯Ä¸¢ø ÀÄ À̾¢¸Ç¢ø ÀÃóÐ Å¡úóÐ Åó¾¡÷¸û ±ýÀ¾üÌ ºÃ¢ò¾¢Ãî º¡ýÚ¸û ¯ûÇÉ.«Å÷¸Ç¢ø ¦ÀÕõ À̾¢Â¢É÷ À¡Ã¾ §¾ºõ ±ÉôÀÎõ ¾ü§À¡¨¾Â þó¾¢Â¡Å¢Öõ, À¡¸¢Š¾¡ý À¢Ã¡ó¾ò¾¢Öõ «¾¢¸Á¡¸ þÕó¾¡÷¸û.«Å÷¸Ç¢ý §Å§È¡÷ À¢Ã¢Å¢É÷ Á¢¸ Óý§ÉÈ¢ ż ¦Á¡Æ¢ÂÔõ ¸üÚ즸¡ñÎ ¾í¸¨Ç "¬Ã¢Â÷" ±ýÚ ÜȢ즸¡ñ¼¡÷¸û. §ÁÖõ ¯Ä¸ «ÇÅ¢ø ÀÃóÐ þÕó¾ þõÁì¸û ¾ÁÐ Å¡ú쨸 Óý§ÉüÈò¾¢ü¸¡¸×õ ºó¾¾¢ô ¦ÀÕì¸ò¾¢ý §¾¨Å¸Ù측¸×õ ¿¡Î Å¢ðÎ ¿¡Î ÌÊ ¦ÀÂ÷óÐ ¦¸¡ñ§¼ þÕ󾾡ø «Å÷¸û þÉò¾¢ý §Å¦È¡Õ À¢ÈÅ¢ÉÃ¡É ¬Ã¢Â÷¸û þ¼õ ¦ÀÂ÷óÐ ¦¸¡ñ§¼ þÕó¾ À¢Ã¢Å¢É¨Ã "¾¢Ã¡Å¢¼÷" ±ýÚ Å¼¦Á¡Æ¢ô ¦ÀÂâø «¨Æò¾¡÷¸û. "ż¦Á¡Æ¢Â¢ø "¾¢Ã¡Å¢¼" ±ýÈ ¦º¡øÖìÌ ¿¡§¼¡Ê (MIGRANTS) ±Éô ¦À¡Õû. þÐ ÌÈ¢òРż¦Á¡Æ¢ Å¢Çì¸õ ²ü¸É§Å §Å§È¡÷ þ¨Æ¢ø Å¢ÅÃÁ¡¸ ±Ø¾¢Ôû§Çý. ż¦Á¡Æ¢ ±ÉôÀÎõ ºõŠ¸¢Õ¾õ ¯Ä¸ «ÇÅ¢ø ¬¾¢ ¦Á¡Æ¢ ±É§Å¡, ¦ºõ¦Á¡Æ¢ ±É§Å¡ ¸ÕОüÌ §À¡¾¢Â ¬¾¡Ãõ þø¨Ä.þó¾¢Â «ÇÅ¢ø, ¦º¡øĢ즸¡ûÇÄ¡õ. «Ð×õ ¾Á¢ØìÌô À¢ÈÌ Åó¾Ð ±ýÈ ¸Õò¾¢ø. þ¾üÌ ¬¾¡ÃÁ¡¸ ºõŠ¸¢Õ¾õ ±ýÈ ¦º¡øÄ¢ý ¦À¡ÕǢĢÕó§¾ «Ð§Å ¦Å§È¡÷ ¦Á¡Æ¢Â¢Ä¢ÕóÐ §¾¡ýÈ¢ÂÐ ±ýÀРŢÇíÌõ. þÐ ÌÈ¢òÐ §Å§È¡÷ þ¨Æ¢ø Å¢ÅÃÁ¡¸ ¬¾¡Ãõ ¦¾Ç¢× ÀÎò¾¢Ôû§Çý. ¾É즸Éò ¾É¢Â¡¸ ¿¡Î ±ýÚ ¨ÅòÐì ¦¸¡ûÇ¡¾¾¡ø «Å÷¸û ¾ÁÐ ¾¡ö ¦Á¡Æ¢Â¡É ¾Á¢ú «ÊôÀ¨¼Â¢ø ¾¢ÕÁ½ ¯È׸Ùõ, Å÷ò¾¸ô ÀâÁ¡üÈí¸Ùõ ¦ºöÐ Åó¾¡÷¸û. «ó¾ ¾É¢ò¾ý¨Á Å¡öó¾ Óý§ÉȢ þÉò¾¡¨Ã þÉõ ¸¡ð¼×õ ¾ÁìÌû ±ýÚ µüÚ¨Á ¸Õ¾¢Ôõ ´§Ã "¾Á¢úò¾¡ö" Áì¸û ±ýÚ ¯Ä¸ «ÇÅ¢ø ¾õ¨Áì ÜÈ¢¦¸¡ñ¼¡÷¸û. þùÅ¡Ú ¦Á¡Æ¢ «ÊôÀ¨¼Â¢ø ´§Ã ¾¡ö Áì¸û ±ýÚ ÜÈ¢ì ¦¸¡ûÅÐ, ¯Ä¸¢§Ä§Â ¾Á¢Æ÷ ¾¡ý Ó¾ø. ¬¾¢¸¡Äò¾¢ø ¾¢Ã¡Å¢¼÷¸û ±ýÚ «¨Æì¸ôÀð¼ «Å÷¸û Ţź¡Âõ, Á£ý À¢Êò¾ø, Á¡Î §Áöò¾ø §À¡ýÈ ¦¾¡Æ¢ø¸Ç¢¢ø «¾¢¸ «ì¸¨È ¸¡ðÊ Å󾾡ø, «Å÷¸ÇÐ ¦¸¡Ê¢ø "Á£¨Éî" º¢ýÉÁ¡¸ô ¦À¡È¢òÐì ¦¸¡ñ¼¡÷¸û.«Å÷¸ÇÐ ¿¡½Âò¾¢ø "Á¡ðÊý º¢ýÉò¨¾ô ¦À¡È¢òÐì ¦¸¡ñ¼¡÷¸û. ¦Á¡†ïº¾§Ã¡, †ÃôÀ¡ §À¡ýÈ þ¼í¸Ç¢ø §¾¡ñÊ ±Îì¸ô Àð¼¨Å¸Ç¢ø Á¡ðÊý º¢ýÉõ ¦¸¡ñ¼ ¿¡½Âí¸¨ÇÔõ, Á£ý º¢ýÉõ ¦À¡È¢ò¾ Óò¾¢¨Ã¸¨ÇÔõ ÁðΧÁ ¾¡ý ¸¡½ ÓÊó¾Ð ±ýÀÐõ, ¬Ã¢Â÷¸û ±ÉìÜȢ즸¡ûÙõ À¢Ã¢Å¢É÷ ÀÂýÀÎò¾¢Â ̾¢¨Ã§Â¡, Å¢ø§Ä¡ º¢ýÉÁ¡¸ ±íÌõ ¸¡½ôÀ¼Å¢ø¨Ä ±ýÀÐ ÌÈ¢ôÀ¢¼ò ¾ì¸Ð. ¾¢Õ «õ§Àò¸÷ ¾ý¨É µ÷ ¬Ã¢Âý ±Éì ÜȢ즸¡ñ¼Ð ²ý ±ýÀÐõ, †¢ðÄÕõ ¾ý¨É µ÷ ¬Ã¢Âý ±ÉìÜȢ즸¡ñ¼Ðõ ²ý ±ýÀÐõ ¬Ã¡öìÌ ¯Ã¢ÂÐ. ¾Á¢ú ¦Á¡Æ¢Â¢Ä¢ÕóÐ ÀÄ ¦º¡ü¸û ¬¾¢ ¸¡Äò¾¢§Ä§Â À¢È ¯Ä¸ ¦Á¡Æ¢¸Ç¢ø ¸Äó¾¢Õó¾¨¾ì ¸¡½Ä¡õ. ż ¦Á¡Æ¢Â¢ø "¿£÷", "Á£ý" §À¡ýÈ ÀÄ ¦º¡ü¸û ¾Á¢Æ¢Ä¢ÕóÐ ²üÚ즸¡ûÇô Àð¼¨Å. |
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12-30-2005, 08:00 AM
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TAMILIAN CALENDAR
Tamilian-year as well as the TAMIL-NEW YEARS DAY, are based on the movement of Earth in relation to Sun, so to say on the basis of SOORYA-MAANA according to Astrology. The same basis is adopted by Bengalis and Malayalees too, unlike all the rest of Indians like Telugu, Kannada,Marathi, Gujarathi speaking Hindus, who follow the other system called CHANDRA- MAANA, since based on the movement of the Moon in relation to Earth. But the word THINGALH as per Tamil- Literature.. ... means the…. MOON... ... as also the name of…. "MONTH" For example... in the... "SANGATH- THAMIZH- MAALAI"...... THIRUPPAAVAI.. (1) Maarhazhith "THINGALH"... (meaning the Month) (2) THINGALHUM Aadhithyanum... (meaning the Moon) .... and in the Saivath- Thirumurhai (3) THINGALH- Sadaiyan (meaning the Moon) It is strange that this Senthamizh word means... .... the MONTH ALSO... in Tamil ... which is inconsistent ... Contrary to the TAMILIAN- CULTURE unmatching to it !! |
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12-31-2005, 08:00 AM
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Dear Friends,
even though, I have a lot more to say on this Topic,.... I leave this Topic... for anyone of you to continue further... ... and keep alive as PERENNIAL... ... since this the Prestigious-Topic of.. ... Every Tamilian all over the Globe!! |
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01-28-2006, 08:00 AM
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--- Copy & paste from old threads ---
From: R.Srinivasan. (U.S.A) (@ ip68*) on: Wed Oct 15 17:16:13 EDT. PROBLEM : 1 - Solution. "NAATAAMAI SYSTEM" is an ancient Social-system of the respective living locality/ Region/ Village which had been introduced in almost all over India by the Social-Leaders themselves with the support of the Kings of those days several centuries ago. This was shaped with a high intention of 1.SOCIAL-UNITY 2.OVERALL SOCIAL-WELFARE 3.MINIMISING THE DISPUTES REACHING THE ULTIMATE COURT FOR LEGAL EVALUATION AND DUE PUNISHMENT. 4.CURBING THE DISPUTES AND MISUNDERSTANDINGS BETWEEN ANY INDIVIDUALS OR SECTIONS OF THE PEOPLE IN THE INITIAL STAGE AT THE ROOT OF THE SOURCE ITSELF. This is no doubt a best Social system which should be encouraged to continue in a healthy manner. Of late this system has come up for criticism, because... 1.The main purpose and function of the Naattaamai-Forum is only ADVISORY AND CORRECTIVE ACTION and not to give punishment to anybody. Whereas it has been violated. 2.Some of the Social Leaders have not realised their moral responsibility and Human-commitment resulting in Partiality and high-handed judgement with a parochial view. 3. The Naattaamai-Committee should consist of only the deserving high celebrities irrespective of status.This has not been practiced giving room for only some richest persons of the villages, for whose obligations and commandments, the villagers have to helplessly and innocently obey. [Oldposts] From: anbu (@ s00d*) on: Thu Oct 16 14:11:15 EDT 2003. சட்டமும& #xBCD; காவலும¼ D; இருக்கு& #xBAE;் பொழுது, கட்ட பஞ்சாயத& #xBCD;து செய்ய நாட்டாம& #xBC8;கள் எதற்கு? In case you cannot see the tamil text: In IE, go to View->Encoding and select 'Unicode(UTF-'. From: R.Srinivasan. (U.S.A) (@ ip68*) on: Mon Oct 20 11:06:33 EDT. ¾¢Õ "«ýÒ" «ýÀ÷ §¸ð¸¢È¡÷ "சட்டமும ் காவலும¼ D; இருக்கு& #xBAE;் பொழுது, கட்ட பஞ்சாயத& #xBCD;து செய்ய நாட்டாம& #xBC8;கள் எதற்கு?" ...±ýÚ. ±ý Å¢¨¼:-- ¬¾¢ ¸¡Äõ ¦¾¡ð§¼ ¾Á¢ú ¿¡ðÊø ºÓ¾¡Â «¨ÁôÒ Á¢¸×õ ¾É¢ò¾ý¨Á Å¡öóò¾¡¸ þÕóÐ ÅóÐûǾüÌ ÀÄ ºÃ¢ò¾¢Ã, Òá½ ã¾¢Â¡É º¡ýÚ¸û ¯ûÇÉ. ¯¾¡Ã½Á¡¸ "À¡¸¢Â¡ý" §À¡ýÈ À¢ÃÀÄ Â¡ò¾¢Ã£¸÷¸Ç¢ý ÌÈ¢ôҸǢÕóÐ þì¸ÕòÐ §ÁÖõ ¯Ú¾¢Â¡¸¢ÈÐ. «¾ýÀÊ ¿ÁÐ ºÓ¾¡Â «¨ÁôÀ¢ø,«ì¸¡Äò¾¢Öõ Àø§ÅÚ º¡¾¢ôÀ¢Ã¢×¸û þÕó¾¡Öõ Áì¸û ¡ÅÕõ ´üÚ¨Á¡¸ «ýÒ¼ý ÜÊôÀƸ¢ ´Õ ¾¡ö Á츨Çô §À¡ýÈ º§¸¡¾Ã ¯½÷§Å¡Î Å¡úóÐ µí¸¢ Óý§ÉÈ×õ Ũ¸ ¦ºöÂôÀðÊÕó¾É. ¦À¡Ð Áì¸ÙìÌû À¢Ã¨É¸û ²üÀð¼¡ø «Åü¨È ӨǢ§Ä§Â ¸¢ûÇ¢ ±È¢Âò¾ì¸ ¦¿È¢ Өȸû ÅÌì¸ôÀðÎ ºÓ¾¡Âõ «¨Á¾¢Â¡¸ ¬Éó¾ÓüÚ Å¡Æ Ó¨ÈôÀÎò¾ôÀð¼É.þ¨Å ¾ü§À¡¨¾Â þó¾¢Â ºÓ¾¡Âò¾¢üÌ ÁðÎÁøÄ, ÀÃó¾ þù×ĸò¾¢ü§¸ º¢óò¢òÐôÀ¡÷츧ÅñÊ ¦ÀÕõ À¡¼õ. ¯¾¡Ã½Á¡¸ ºÓ¾¡Âò§¾¡÷ «¨ÉÅÕõ º¡¾¢, «ó¾ŠÐ ²üÈò¾¡ú× ±Ð×õ þýÈ¢ °÷ ÜÊò §¾÷ þØìÌõ ÅÆì¸Á¡É ¾Á¢ú ¿¡ðÎì ¸Ä¡îº¡Ãõ ´ý¨Èî º¢ó¾¢ò¾¡§Ä ÁüȨŠŢÇíÌõ. ¾ü¸¡Äò¾¢ø ±¾ü¦¸Îò¾¡Öõ,º¢Ú º¢Ú À¢Ã¨É¸û, ÌÎõÀò¾¡÷ ¾É¢ô À¢Ã¨É¸ÙìÌì Ü¼î ºð¼ò¾¢ý ¯¾Å¢¨Âò ¾¡ý ¿¡¼ §ÅñÊ À⾡ÀÁ¡É ¿¢¨Ä «ì¸¡Äò¾¢ø þø¨Ä.«Å÷¸û ±¾ü¦¸Îò¾¡Öõ ÁýÉâ¼õ ӨȢðξ¡ý ¾£÷ôÒô ¦ÀÈÓÊÔõ ±ýÈ «ÅÄ ¿¢¨Ä¢ø þø¨Ä. ¦ÀÕõÀ¡Öõ «Å÷¸ÙìÌû§Ç§Â ¾¡÷Á£¸ 㾢¢ø (Moral Approach), ºõÀò¾ôÀð¼ Áü§È¡ÃÐ ¿¢¨Ä¢§Ä ¾ý¨É§Â ¸üÀ¨É¢ø þÕò¾¢ô À¡÷òÐò ¾£÷× ¸ñ¼¡÷¸û. «ò¾¸Â§¾¡÷ ºÓ¾¡Â «¨ÁôÒò¾¡ý "¿¡ð¼¡¨Áò ¾£÷ôÒ" ¾Á¢Æ÷ ¸Ä¡º¡ÃôÀÊ ´Õ ÌÊÁ¸ÛìÌ ãýÚ «ÎìÌ ¿£¾¢ ¿¢¨Ä¸û ÅÌì¸ôÀðÎûÇÉ. 1.«ÅÃÅ÷ ÁÉðº¢ò ¾£÷× 2.ÌÎõÀò¾¨ÄÅ÷ ¾£÷×. 3.¦À¡Ð Áì¸û (°Ã¡÷) ¾£÷× (¿¡ð¼¡¨ÁìÌØ ãÄõ) 4.«Ãºý ¾£÷×. 5.¬ñ¼Åý (¸¼×û) ¾£÷×. þ¾¢ø Ó¾ø ãýÚ Ó¨È¸Ç¢Öõ ¡ÕìÌõ ¾ñ¼¨É ÅÆí¸ôÀÎÅÐ þø¨Ä. «È¢×¨È¸û ãÄõ Å¢¨Çí¸î ¦ºöÂôÀðÎ ÌüÈõ ºð¼ô¦ÀüÈÅ÷ ¾¡§É ¯½ÕõÀÊ ¦ºöÐ ÁýÉ¢ôÒ째ðÎò ¾ý¨Éò ¾¡§É ¾¢Õò¾¢ì ¦¸¡ñÎ Å¡Æ Å¨¸ ¦ºöÂôÀð¼Ð. "«ýÒ" ±ýÈ ¯Ââ ¦ÀÂ÷ ¦¸¡ñ¼ ¾Á¢ú «ýÀ§Ã þó¾ ¯Ââ ӨÈÂ¡É "«ýÒ ¦¿È¢" ¾ü¸¡Äò¾¢ø §¾¨Å þø¨Ä¡? ºÓ¾¡Âò ¾¢ø ¦¾¡¼÷óÐ À¨¸¨Á¨Â ÅÇ÷òÐ즸¡ñ§¼ §À¡Ìõ ºð¼Ó¨È §¸¡÷ðÎ ¿£¾¢ ¾¡ý ¸¾¢Â¡? |
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02-18-2006, 08:00 AM
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Dear Mr. Rahul,
All these points i have replied under the relevent Thread... ... "SOCIAL-AWAKENING SUITING TO TIME." Please comment if any. |
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02-24-2006, 08:00 AM
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good .... no response for a real topic. i shall give my reply tomorrow.... till then just keep the thread alive....
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03-19-2006, 08:00 AM
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Mr. John
// ==================================== but this yavarum kelir attitude---- has it not led the tamil to loose their tribal identity,loose their territory.loose the very uniqueness and individuality of the tamil race? we accept and allow other cultures and traditions easily and adopt ===================================== Thanks Mr. John .... A Good Question with Valid proofs in Reality... ... a Contra-Indication by Negative-Consequences on a HEALTHY-ENDEAVOUR... .. based on POSITIVE-THINKING (by Tamilians) .... ... a Hearty- Approach by means of WISDOM... ... the Pinnacle-Might of the Supreme-Creature of God .... .. as the RUDIMENTARY PRINCIPLE / IDEAL FOR MANKIND Why So? ..... Were / Are the Tamilians BASIC-OUTLOOK and CULTURE of ... YAADHUM- OORAE... YAAVARUM KAELHIR... policy... is either ... .... WRONG?... ABSURD?.. COWARDICE?... IMPRACTICABLE? ... UNREALISTIC? ... .... SELF-DECEPTIVE? ... SUICIDAL?... // I have started my Reply part by part under another Relevant Comprehensive Thread by name... SOCIAL-AWAKENING SUITING TO TIME... Please continue your comments and Criticisms if any under their Title... ... if on SOCIAL-REALITY-ASPECT... only..... THERE... and.. .. if CULTURALLY.. HERE .. please .. WELCOME to all .. .. the TAMILIANS and the Tamilian-Friendly NON-TAMILIANS ONLY! .. With the True Human-Spirit of YAAVARUM-KAELHIR !! |
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04-24-2006, 08:00 AM
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/// "À¡õÒ ±ýÈ¡ø À¨¼Ôõ ¿ÎíÌõ"... ±ýÈ ÀƦÁ¡Æ¢. ///
Dear Thiru Sudhaama, The word pamphu is from root 'pammu' which means 'Adanki Ezhuthal'-'Sulantru thakkuthal'- Virulent attack, 'Marainthu thakkuthal'- hide and attack. The Chola military has 'pampappadai' which is third series in military attack. It followed the rule hide and attack. pamparam - a wood element play in country side. The english word 'Pump' is from french 'pompe' which means virulent attack might have come from Greek which loaned that word from tamil. f.s.gandhi |
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04-27-2006, 08:00 AM
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"¾Á¢úò ¾¡ö ?"
¦À¡ÐÅ¡¸ ¯Ä¸õ «¨Éò¾¢Öõ ¯ûÇ ÅÆì¸õ ¾¡õ À¢Èó¾ «øÄÐ Å¡Æ ¿¢Ãó¾ÃÁ¡¸ ¬ì¸¢¦¸¡ñ¼ ¿¡ð¨¼ò ¾¡ö ¿¡Î ±ýÚ ÜȢ즸¡ûÅÐ. ¬É¡ø ¾Á¢Æ÷ ÁðÎõ "¾Á¢úò¾¡ö" ±ýÚ ÜÚÅÐõ ¾Á¢úò¾¡ö Å¡úòÐô À¡¼ø À¡ÎÅÐõ ¬¾¢ ¸¡Äõ Ó¾§Ä ÅÆì¸Á¡¸ þÕ츢ÈÐ. ²ý? ¾Á¢Æ¨Ãô À¡÷òо¡ý "¦¾ÖÌ-¾øÄ¢" ±ýÚ ¦¾Öí¸Õõ, "¸ýɼ-Á¡¾¡" ±ýÚ ¸ýÉÊÂ÷¸Ùõ ºÁ£À ¸¡ÄÁ¡¸ì ÜÈ¢ì ¦¸¡û¸¢È¡÷¸û. þýÛõ ܼ þó¾¢ì¸¡Ã⨼§Â§Â¡, Åí¸¡Ç¢Â⨼§Â¡ ²¨É§Â¡Ã¢¼§Á¡ þùÅÆì¸õ ²üÀ¼Å¢ø¨Ä ±ýÀÐ §¿¡ì¸ò¾ì¸Ð. |
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05-26-2006, 08:00 AM
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GOD- WORSHIP in Ancient Tamilian-Culture.
Generally the Tribals and Savages considered Nature by its indications of Sun, Storm, Rain, Fire etc..as the Super-Human-Power... they regarded them.... as the objects of FEAR. Whereas ...quite contrary to them... the ancient Tamilians regarded Nature including Sun as the objects of FAITH (the Opposite Spirit to "Fear").... ...and Nature as the Super-Human-power... as their Life-Support.. ... .whereas the Natural-calamities...considered as the Punishment from God for some ills or Sins committed by the Society... ...So they were more Social-spirited to ensure none of them commit anything sinful ... even within ones own family... which may eventually lead to the detriment of the Society on the whole due to wrath of the hidden God. Besides they felt... that Sun is the Supervisory-Leader of Nature which makes their Life...in several ways...and so.... out of Gratitude they regarded the Sun... as the Supreme-power, ...alongside the Nature in the overall sense. At their initial stages... they had No Religion ... nor any such means of Worship... but only Faith that there exists One Supreme-Human Power which organises Nature.. But later on they started worshiping Sun as God. Only with such a spirit towards Sun-God-Faith... we see in Silappadhikaaram... ... "Gnjaayirhu poatrudhum.."... meaning... "Oh ! the Sun God !!... Our obesance to you.!!!" Such an impled Faith continues even now .. in the Tamilians culture... in various ways.... by their Calendar... Festivals.. Customs etc. Basically Tamilians' main occupation being Agriculture... all their Festivals and Customs are related with it... intertwined with Sun and Nature. (1) Tamilian Calendar is based on Soorya-maana...(Astronomical calculations based on the movement of Sun in relation to Earth). (2) Tamilian months relate to the same period of its traverse within the specific segment of 30 degrees circle(Horoscopic House). Months are named after the Star coinciding with the Full-Moon-day (Pournami)... So to say... in Chiththirai month, the Pournami falls on the day of Chiththirai star... and in Vaikaasi, the Pournami falls on Visaakam day... and so on. (3)The Great celebration of the year is Pongal.. the day Sun enters Makara Rasi on the first day of the month of Thai... so to say the commencement of Uththaraayana.... in relation to Sun. .. which day is celebrated for initiating the first Food out of newly harvested crop. (4)Next prominent celebration falls on the Tamilian New Years day.. which coincides with its entry into Maesha Rasi...Sun's exalted House..This day is celebrated as the Symbolic DAY OF PROSPERITY ...with Fertility of Fruits... while Pongal is celebrated with the Fertility of Grains. Chiththirai month is the only month... when the Sun rays are abundantly available for the Crops and Fruit-Trees... because of clear-sky.. with the minimum amount of clouds... coupled with the least days of overcast sky. Consequently the Agriculturists get the maximum benefit out of Sunshine during Chiththirai month. (5)Aavani is the month...of Simma Rasi.. the Ruling House of Sun... when the sowing seeds are completed... and their prayer to Nature's co-operation commences. (6) Purattaasi is the month when.... NATURE is worshipped.... in the form of Navarathri Kolu. (7) Aippasi is the Idle-month of the year for the Farmer... with minimum activity in the Farm ... It is the month of Weak-Sun... being debilitated in Thula Rasi... It coincides with the month of Heavy Rains. Thus... SUN and NATURE .. .. play the great role and influence on the Festivals and Celebrations of.... Tamilian-Culture. |
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05-30-2006, 08:00 AM
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Indian-Culture in general is the Vaedhic-Culture, the so called Hindu Religious Culture. And the Tamilian- Culture is no doubt a part of Indian Culture and almost similar to that Motherland's Culture in Content and Classification.
But if keenly observed, the Uniqueness of TAMILIAN-CULTURE can be noted prominently and effectively CONSPICUOUS amongst the diversity of Indian-Culture on the whole. While the entire Indian-Culture is Spiritual-based with no lesser degree in the Tamilian-Culture, the noteworthy factor in Tamilan-Culture is ..... .... the higher degree of INTRICACY.. ... in SPIRITUALISM... sans Renunciation ....stressing the Moral-Values.. ....of Conscienceous and Judicious Life... ....ensuring the Hearty feel as ONE HUMAN ...amongst the VAST SOCIETY, ..IMBUED with the Spirit of EMPATHY.. ..and UNIVERSAL-LOVE ensuring Social-concern... .... properly availing the FOUR... .. INNATE POTENTIALITIES.. Humans are born with ... to EARN the Means of Life for... .. worthy MUDANE-LIVING ....ensuring .. the True SUCCESS and HAPPINESS... ...meaningfully PROSPEROUS..by REALITY..for .. duly performing the multifaceted DUTIES ...for Self, Family, Society and God ... with the least SACRIFICE... ... of neither the HUMAN-VALUES... ... nor the Righteous Living.. ... and FINALLY seek the ULTIMATE GOAL... ... of LIBERATION FROM RE-BIRTH. Such factors can be observed not only from their Ancient Customs and Civilisation but also in the Great Tamilian-Literature, which are the most AUTHENTIC PROOFS. Right from the tender age of every Tamilian child the thought of Moral-values on Life is inculcated. For example ..... the First sentence of the First Tamil Lesson for a Beginer-Student is.... «Èõ ¦ºÂ Å¢ÕõÒ. (Aram Seya Virumbu.) Which means..... " You must be constantly Thinking, Wishing and Intending to perform only a Moral-Life of RIGHTEOUSNESS." |
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05-31-2006, 08:00 AM
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Corrigendum:--
// Human-beings are bestowed with 4 Innate Strengths ....... // To be read as :---- 1. Body-power (Physical-Strength) 2. Intellectual / Brain-Power (Wisdom) 3. Mind-Power (Will-Power, Outlook, Self-Confidence, Mutual-Love, Enthusiasm, Perseverence ) 4. Spiritual-Power (Moral- Strength) (Morality, Sincerety, Introspection, Moral-Approach,Honesty, Loyalty,Kindness, Mercy, Unity, Empathy, Sympathy, Social-spirit, Noblity, Faith in Life, Faith on Super-Human-Power the God) |
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06-07-2006, 08:00 AM
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Unique TAMILIAN - CULTURE : "View through HEART"...
Swami Vivekananda was asked by one American: "Why your Hindu Religious Prophets Sankaracharya and Ramanujacharya speak contrarily preaching different Gospels on one and the same Religion of Hinduism?... Will it not be confusing to the disciples as to which one to be followed.? Swamiji replied:" Basically the so called Hinduism is not at all one Religion but a Composite form of several divergent Gospels suiting to different Souls commensurate with Ones ability of Individual Faith, Approach and Perception..... Besides..... Sankaracharya speaks through his Brain.... whereas... Ramanujacharya speaks through his Heart... so both have got to be different. And the people have the parallel options to chose any one of them. Ramanujachaarya's Hearty Culture is and was the True and Eternal Culture of Tamilians .....ever from the date of Origination of their Culture.... from the period prior to the Birth of Ramanujachaarya. This aspect can be ascertained from the underlying high spirit of Overall Tamil-Literature, far highly discernible from the Literatures of other Languages of India. Some of the ancient Tamil poems of several centuries ago..... speaks for itself.... ÀøÄ¡ñÎ ÀøÄ¡ñÎ Àøġ¢Ãò¾¡ñÎ Àħ¸¡Ê áȡ¢Ãõ ÁøÄ¡ñ¼ ¾¢ñ§¼¡û Á½¢Åñ½¡ ¯ý §ºÅÊ ¦ºùÅ¢ ¾¢Õ측ôÒ «Ê§Â¡§Á¡Îõ ¿¢ý§É¡Îõ À¢Ã¢Å¢ýÈ¢ ¬Â¢Ãõ ÀøÄ¡ñÎ ÅÊÅ¡ö ¿¢ý ÅÄ Á¡÷À¢É¢ø Å¡ú¸¢ýÈ Áí¨¸Ôõ ÀøÄ¡ñÎ À¨¼§À¡÷ ÒìÌ ÓÆíÌõ «ôÀ¡ïººýÉ¢ÂÓõ ÀøÄ¡ñ§¼. Says the Vaishnava-Devotee Periaazhwaar alias Vishnuchithar on the God Vishnu. In this Poetry the Devotee not only describes Vishnu alongside the Beauties of His various Divine Possessions, Paraphernalias and Adorations but also blesses the Supreme God. Have we ever heard or seen in any Religion in the world..... where the Devotee, so to say the Human-being blesses the God instead of seeking the God's Blessings!...... But NOT with Superiority-Complex.... but sheerly out of .... MUTUAL-LOVE..... further asserted by his HUMBLE-WORDS about self. "±ø§Ä¡Õõ þýÒüÚ þÕì¸ ¿¢¨ÉôÀЧŠ«øÄ¡Áø §Å¦È¡ýÚ «È¢§Âý ÀáÀçÁ..." Says Thaayumanavar a Saiva-Devotee.... Stating his Wishes addressing the God Shiva...... for the UNIVERSAL HAPPINESS..... and that he does not know anything other than that WISH ! «ý§À ¾¸Ç¢Â¡ ¬÷ŧÁ ¦¿ö¡¸ þýÒÕÌ º¢ó¨¾§Â þξ¢Ã¢Â¡ ¿ýÒÕ¸¢ »¡Éîͼ÷ Å¢ÇìÌ ²üÈ¢§Éý ¿¡Ã½üÌ »¡Éò¾Á¢ú ÒÃ¢ó¾ »¡ý. Says Poothathaazhwar another Vishnu-devotee To mean..... that he worships the Lord Narayana with a Flame of Light.... out of a Hand-Lamp base depicted as LOVE.... Oil as the Spirit of ENTHUSIASM..... the burning cotton-chord as the PLEASANT THOUGHTS. A few out of many such ones in Tamil-Literature..... highlights the spirit of HEARTY LOVE more than the Spirit of Devotion. When such is the case while approaching the God Supreme as well as.... The vast mass of World-Society..... What is the INNATE Propensity of the Tamilians ! and ... How Great and Unparallel their Culture must be..... Culminating in their Unique Civilisation .... can be well imagined. |
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