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[brraverishhh]

Devakachayakumar:
The memory you have about somebody saying that Mani is talking out of jealousy comes from my posting. I suggest that you dig up that posting up again and READ IT! Skimming it will cause confusions like this; hypothetical scenarios shouldnt be confused with reality.

[Lt_Apple]

±õ.ƒ¢.¬÷, âɢ, Áº¡Ä¡ À¼í¸û ¾¡ý ¿øÄ ¸¨ÄôÀ¼í¸û. «Å÷¸ÙìÌò ¾¡ý Üð¼õ «¾¢¸õ, ÅÝÖõ «¾¢¸õ.

[Drugmachine]

J.:
i've also read Pudhumaipithan.why is he better than Kalki?i'm not trying to be rude questioning ur judgement.but i'm really curious why Pudhumaipithan is called great. more curious after reading him

[Lt_Apple]

Jeevaa: I strongly object to your posting. There is no reason Mani should beleive in your world view. If you have a disagreement with Manis views, state them and argue them. You are just starting a flame war.

[9mm_fan]

Mani,

This seems to be a more suitable thread to discuss our opinions on literary criticism.

You had written in the "10 best novels" thread that you feel the necessity to criticize the typos even in Jeyamohans postings. But you also accept that that typos in such postings generally does not matter. Essentially Jeyamohan has to pay a price that you and I do not have to pay because he is a writer. That doesnt sound quite right to me.

I also feel that our differences as far as the propriety of includings one own novels in a top 10 list are irreconcilable. The apparent hubris makes you very angry. I interpret the same as pride in ones own work and the freedom to express it. I do not think that your value system should be imposed on Jeyamohan. Lets agree to disagree on this point.

[tgs]

What is this?????? Are we lost????

[brraverishhh]

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[LottiFurmann]

Topic started by Mani M. Manivannan (@ cpe-24-221-181-57.ca.sprintbbd.net) on Wed May 2 02:14:57 .


W. H. Auden wrote:

What is the function of a critic. So far as I am concerned, he can do me one or more of the following services:

1. Introduce me to authors or works of which I was hitherto unaware.

2. Convince me that I have undervalued an author or a work because I had not read them carefully enough.

3. Show me relations between works of different ages and cultures which I could never have seen for myself because I do not know enough and never shall.

4. Give a "reading" of a work which increases my understanding of it.

5. Throw light upon the process of artistic "making."

6. Throw light upon the releation of art to life, science, economics, ethics, religion, etc.

- "The Dyer's Hand and Other Essays" (Random House, Inc., 1972)

Cleanth Brooks added in his articles of faith "That in a successful work, form and content cannot be separated and that form is meaning."

These are useful definitions of literary criticism, perhaps descriptions of a formalist criticism. Of course, there are other types of criticisms such as the Deconstruction, Jungian or archetypal, Historical, Marxist, Biographical, Psychoanalytical, Ethnic (minority?), etc. There is always the reader's criticism that usually is a single reader's perspective on something that they read. I invite readers to post their criticisms of something that they have read using Auden's guidelines in mind. Excerpts from professional critics are also welcome.

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