[PhillipHer]

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[brraverishhh]

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[tgs]

A slight digression

An object-oriented YahooGroups! forum

[ALTAMAG]: ALTernative TAMil MAGazines
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This forum is to talk about and
record the Alternative Tamil Magazines.
Anything related to ALTAMAG is welcome.

This is a bilingual [English/Tamil] forum.
Though TSC fonts are preferable,
Use TSC/TAB-TAM/Baamini fonts.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/altamag

I welcome your participation.

[Big A]

Dear Mr. Raman,

In the Tamil literature threads, we discuss Tamil in Tamil scripts. To really enjoy Tamil discussions and participate in them, one need to be able to read and write in Tamil on computers. It is fairly easy to read in Tamil.

Most of the posts are in the TSCII encoding. There are plenty of free TSCII fonts available at http://www.tamil.net/tscii/tools.html

Some of the posts are in the Anjal Inaimathi family of fonts. To read them you will need to download the Murasu Anjal software and keep it running. You can also use Murasu Anjal to read the TSCII encoded texts. Murasu Anjal is available at http://www.murasu.com

To write in Tamil, you will need to do some work. All of this is discussed in the How To pages as well as the various practice pages.

http://www.forumhub.com/howto.html
http://forumhub.com/tlit/4392.21378.13.51.05.html
http://www.forumhub.com/tlit/21378.13.51.05.html

How to post tamil text ?


<ul>[*] Posting TSCII tamil text is easy. Just add the TSCII tag around the text you wish to post:
..whatever in TSCII text...[*] You can also post using FONt tags, e.g. for Murasu Anjal:



... text copied from Murasu editor....



Go to the Test Posts thread to test
if posting works from your browser.[/list]
Posting in transliterated Tamil makes it hard to quote from other sources, difficult to read fluently and has been unnecessary for at least 5 years. So, do make an effort to download the TSCII fonts and then see for yourself before complaining about the "heiroglophics" (sic).

[Ifroham4]

Rajam Aiyer wrote the 'KamalaambaaL Chariththiram'.

I stand corrected by Sivagnaanam.

Paridhi = Suuriyan
Maal = NaaraayaNan
Kalaignar = Saasthri

ParidhiMaaRKalaignar is SuuriyaNaaraayaNaSaasthriyaar.

[Big A]

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[Raj_Copi_Jin]

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[softy54534]

You can also post using FONt tags, e.g. for Murasu Anjal:

[tgs]

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ÅºÉ ¿¨¼Â¢ø **iÕ*ì¸ §ÅñÎõ. ¦Á¡Æ¢ ¦ÀÂ÷ôÀ¡¸ *iÕì¸ì ܼ¡Ð ±ýÚ Â¡Ã¡ÅÐ «Ú¾¢Â¢ðÊÕôÀ¡÷¸û.

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"Ãô §¿¡ð¼¡¸ ¯À§Â¡¸ô ÀÎò¾Ä¡õ."

(¾¡Ç¢ø ´Õ Àì¸ò¾¢ø ÁðÎõ ¸Å¢¨¾ «îºÊòÐô Òò¾¸õ §À¡ðÊÕ츢ȡ÷¸û!)

*¾ü¸¡Äò ¾Á¢ú iÄ츢Âò¾¡ø ÀÂý *iø¨Ä ±ýÚ Â¡÷ ¦º¡ýÉÐ?

[Peptobismol]

Can someone translate era.murugan posts?

[Slonopotam845]

My guess is wrong.(1857)
According to the Handbook of tamil culture & Heritage,
vedanayagam pillai wrote 'Piradhaaba Mudhaliyar Chariththiram' in 1876.
¦ÀñÒò¾¢Á¡¨Ä(¦ÀñÁ¾¢Á¡¨Ä) is a poetic work.
--¾¡É¡

PS: Dear Dr.JayBee
I am not Sivagnaanam.

[Fegasderty]

Thanks Thaanaa.

There are interesting references to vEdanAyagam PiLLai in U.vE.sA's 'en charitham'.

More on the subject later...

[brraverishhh]

§Å¾¿¡Â¸õ À¢û¨Ç¢ý 'À¢Ã¾¡À ӾĢ¡÷ ºÃ¢ò¾¢Ãõ' ¿¡ÅÖìÌ ¿¡ýÌ ÅÕ¼õ Óý§À ¾Á¢Æ¢ø Ó¾ø ¿¡Åø, «Ð×õ ¸Å¢¨¾ ¿¨¼Â¢ø Åó¾¢Õ츢ÈÐ. 1875-ø ¦ÅÇ¢Â¡É *ó¿¡ÅÄ¢ý ¦ÀÂ÷ '¬¾¢ä÷ «Å¾¡É¢ ºÃ¢ò¾¢Ãõ'. ±Ø¾¢ÂÅ÷ ¦ºý¨É Òúšì¸õ Å¢òÐÅ¡ý §º„öÂí¸¡÷. «õÁ¡¨É ±ýÈ ÄÌÅ¡É ¸Å¢¨¾ «¨ÁôÀ¢ø «¨ÁóÐûÇ *ó¿¡Å¨Ä ±ð¼¡ÅÐ ¯Ä¸ò ¾Á¢ú ¿¡ð¨¼ ´ðÊì §¸¡¨Å Å¢ƒÂ¡ À¾¢ôÀ¸õ 1994-
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*ôÀ¾¢ôÒìÌ º¢ðÊÔõ º¢ÅÀ¡¾Íó¾ÃÓõ ±Ø¾¢Â ¸ÕòÐî ¦ºÈ¢Å¡É ÓýۨâĢÕóÐ §º„öÂí¸¡÷ ¿¡¸÷§¸¡Å¢Ä¢ø ÅÆì¸È¢»Ã¡¸ô À½¢ Òâó¾Å÷ ±ýÚ ¦¾Ã¢¸¢ÈÐ. *Å÷ ´Õ ºã¸ º£÷¾¢Õò¾Å¡¾¢Ôõ ܼ. À¾¢ýãýÚ Å¾¢ø Å¢¾¨ÅÂ¡É ¾ý Á¸ÙìÌ ÁÚÁ½õ ¦ºöÐ ¨ÅòÐ áüÚ ÓôÀÐ ÅÕ¼õ ÓýÉ¡§Ä§Â ÒÃ𺢠¦ºö¾¢Õ츢ȡ÷. *¾É¡ø «Å÷ ƒ¡¾¢ô À¢Ã‰¼õ ¦ºöÂô Àð¼¡÷. Å¢¾¨Å ÁÚÁ½õ ¿¼ó¾ Àó¾ø ¾£ì¸¢¨Ã¡ì¸ô Àð¼Ð. ¿¡Åø ¦ÀÕõÀ¡Öõ *ÅÕ¨¼Â «ÛÀÅô À¾¢×¸§Ç.

ÀÊòÐ ÓÊò¾ À¢ý Ţ⚸ ±Øи¢§Èý.

[PhillipHer]

Dear Raman,

I am using Inaimathi TSC

[brraverishhh]

I am unable to decipher the fonts in the posts by era.murugan.

[doctorzlo]

The Inaimathi TSC font script is fine. But there are many who cannot read it. Why not conduct the coversation in English?

[Peptobismol]

Dear friends
I guess it was 1857.(vethanaygam pillai published ¦ÀñÒò¾¢Á¡¨Ä in 1869. so 1870 & 1877 r not acceptable.)

According to the handbook of tamil cuture & heritage, 'KamalaambaaL Chariththiram' was written by rajam iyer ( AKA Paridhi MaaR Kalaignar ???).

[Paul Bunyan]

I do not have the software to decipher the heiroglophics. Thanks to all my friends.

[Peptobismol]

'¸ÁÄ¡õÀ¡û ºÃ¢ò¾¢Ãõ' 1893'ø Å¢§Å¸º¢ó¾¡Á½¢ Àò¾¢Ã¢¨¸Â¢ø ¦¾¡¼Ã¡¸ Åó¾Ð.

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«Å÷ «¨Á¾¢Â¡¸ *iÈó¾ ¸¡ðº¢ µ÷ «üÒ¾õ. *ÃñÎ ¿¡û ¸Æ¢òÐ 'À¢ÃÒò¾ À¡Ã¾'ò¾¢ø ¦ÅÇ¢Åó¾ '§Å¾¡ó¾õ', 'ს¾¢ áƒý' ±ýÈ ¸ðΨøÙ측¸ «ù÷ Á£Ð áƒòЧá¸ì ÌüÈõ º¡ðÊÉ¡÷¸û. «Ãº¡í¸õ À¢Ê Å¡Ãñð «ÛôÀ¢ÂÐ. §À¡Ä£…¡÷ Åó¾É÷. ¬É¡ø, Å¡Ãñ¨¼ º¡¾Ã¡ ¦ºö ¬û¾¡ý i*ø¨Ä.

[Ifroham4]

*ùÅ¢¨Æ¢§Ä ÓýÉ÷ *¼ôÀð¼ ¾¸ÅÖ¼ý ºõÀó¾ôÀð¼ À¡¼õ *í§¸
http://www.kumudam.com/eelam/pg4.html
[14 July 2001, for the future archive search)