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**Ifroham4** · 11-03-2005, 08:00 AM

Dear Senthil,

I am interested in knowing this. Am surprised to see no responding to this thread. Perhaps it has been already discussion. Anyway, I just found a little bit of this discussed in the following link:

Posted by Chandra at
http://forumhub.com/tlit/8828.07.47.15.html

// As for conspiracies, what about the deliberate destruction of ThEvAram right in side the Thillai (Chidhambaram) temple? We lost 80% of the songs composed by the Tamil Saiva Trinity (Appar, Sambandhra and Sundarar: the last two themselves anthaNars) and traditional burning of Tamil mansucripts in temple yagams, as portrayed poignantly by UVS Iyer in his autobiography? //

**Slonopotam845** · 02-21-2006, 08:00 AM

Topic started by senthil (@ 202.141.69.254) on Sun Sep 26 15:51:01 EDT 2004.

It is being said that lot of poems of Appar sundarar and Manickavasagar are being lost while it is being kept at Chidambaram. Is it true? Then How did Chola's are able to recover only a portion of it? Not all. What happened to lost poems? Usually more than one disciple (seetarkal)used to take notes in their time? Is it possible now to get lost poems if that kind of thing happened?

**brraverishhh** · 03-09-2006, 08:00 AM

Not exactly what chandra has said might not have appened. The whole story goes like this

It has been said during when the Jainism is getting prevalent in the society all the poems by nayanmars were collected and stored in a single room at chdambaram temple. The room had been locked and all poems were there for three centuries inside. When the Chola king came to know about that he went to the temple and found most of the poems destroyed by insects and other things. Here mysterically he is able to recover most of the poems of sambanthar but not appar, sundarar and manickvasagar. The most affected was, poems of manickavasagar. After that sekkizhar is appointed by the king to compile the the survived poems and he went to all the places to collect the details of the nayanmars. He heard stories which are carried from the generations and he compiled and he then made this into "panniru thirumurai" including his periyapuranam which deals about the lives of nayanmars"
Here the big questions is

1. Who collected all the poems
2. Why it is being kept locked for that much of time?
3. Is there only one copy of it?

11-03-2005, 08:00 AM	#1
Ifroham4 Join Date Apr 2007 Posts 5,196 Senior Member	Dear Senthil, I am interested in knowing this. Am surprised to see no responding to this thread. Perhaps it has been already discussion. Anyway, I just found a little bit of this discussed in the following link: Posted by Chandra at http://forumhub.com/tlit/8828.07.47.15.html // As for conspiracies, what about the deliberate destruction of ThEvAram right in side the Thillai (Chidhambaram) temple? We lost 80% of the songs composed by the Tamil Saiva Trinity (Appar, Sambandhra and Sundarar: the last two themselves anthaNars) and traditional burning of Tamil mansucripts in temple yagams, as portrayed poignantly by UVS Iyer in his autobiography? // Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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02-21-2006, 08:00 AM	#2
Slonopotam845 Join Date Jan 2006 Posts 5,251 Senior Member	Lost Poems of Sundarar, Appar and Manickavasagar Topic started by senthil (@ 202.141.69.254) on Sun Sep 26 15:51:01 EDT 2004. It is being said that lot of poems of Appar sundarar and Manickavasagar are being lost while it is being kept at Chidambaram. Is it true? Then How did Chola's are able to recover only a portion of it? Not all. What happened to lost poems? Usually more than one disciple (seetarkal)used to take notes in their time? Is it possible now to get lost poems if that kind of thing happened? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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03-09-2006, 08:00 AM	#3
brraverishhh Join Date Jan 2006 Posts 5,127 Senior Member	Not exactly what chandra has said might not have appened. The whole story goes like this It has been said during when the Jainism is getting prevalent in the society all the poems by nayanmars were collected and stored in a single room at chdambaram temple. The room had been locked and all poems were there for three centuries inside. When the Chola king came to know about that he went to the temple and found most of the poems destroyed by insects and other things. Here mysterically he is able to recover most of the poems of sambanthar but not appar, sundarar and manickvasagar. The most affected was, poems of manickavasagar. After that sekkizhar is appointed by the king to compile the the survived poems and he went to all the places to collect the details of the nayanmars. He heard stories which are carried from the generations and he compiled and he then made this into "panniru thirumurai" including his periyapuranam which deals about the lives of nayanmars" Here the big questions is 1. Who collected all the poems 2. Why it is being kept locked for that much of time? 3. Is there only one copy of it? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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