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**PhillipHer** · 06-15-2009, 02:43 PM

Thai thindra manne on my disc man..What a composition..what a fusion...Hats off GVP..Truly amazed...

Two songs that didnt work for me..
Penmaane-this song is a bit scary and wierd esp BombayJaysree's vocals ..

Indha paadhai - dull

**S.T.D.** · 06-15-2009, 02:56 PM

Checked out INDHA......Very nice.
G.V.P sings very well, appealing classical guitar orchestration.

Thaai ......

தாய் தின்ற மண்ணே ....... விஜய் யேசுதாஸ் is amazing with grand violin section with chorus dhiranas and strong percussion interlude.... raga improvisations of the melody gives me the urge to listen செவ்வானமே சீர் கொண்டு வா......விஜய்'s அப்பா - யேசுதாஸ் & ஷைலஜா .. old compostion by K.V.Mahadevan.

The second version
The Cholan Ecstacy has a POWERFUL usage of percussions - udukkai, mirudhangam, tabala, ghatam etc.. in various sections of the composition.
Very nice classical raga fusion pathos.
Loving both the versions.

good job, G.V.P. Rest later..... Vinatha.

**tgs** · 06-15-2009, 03:47 PM

Just got a sms from a fellow hubber. He said the whole album is outstanding. Need to check them out.
All the Best GVP

**Fegasderty** · 06-15-2009, 08:26 PM

Listened to the songs.

Thaai thindra manne (both the tracks) are extraordinary compositions!

Oh eesa did not appeal to me.

King arrives and Celebration of Life are amazing theme music kinda stuff.

Indha paadhai is good too...

Un mela aasadhan

**Lillie_Steins** · 06-15-2009, 09:03 PM

Selva & Yuvan make peace!

By Moviebuzz | Monday, 15 June , 2009, 11:00

There are no permanent friends or enemies in cinema. The audio launch of Aayirathil Oruvan saw the re-union of the hit director - music director combo of Selvaraghavan and Yuvan Shankar Raja.

The surprise guest at the audio launch at University centenary hall in Chennai was Yuvan who came to wish Selva and watch GV Prakash抯 first live performance on stage. He sat through the whole show, hugged Selva and left with a smile.

Later, Yuvan told Sify.com: ?I was waiting to hear the audio of Aayirathil Oruvan and was pleased when producer Ravendran invited me for the launch. Selva has always been special and will remain to be so. I think the audio rocks?

An overwhelmed Selva with a smile: 揌e is my brother. It is one of the happiest days in my life and I love him?

The views expressed in the article are th

**TorryJens** · 06-15-2009, 09:06 PM

Selvaraghavan抯 super show

By Moviebuzz | Monday, 15 June , 2009, 10:35

The audio launch of Selva Raghavan抯 Aayirathil Oruvan was one of the best launches in recent time.

There were no tall claims made by the director and the launch function itself was unique in many ways.

Selva in his note to the media said: 揟his is not a genre film. I wanted to make this film, because I have not made a film like this ever. Aayirathil Oruvan is truly every man抯 story卋ut it happens only to one man in a million.?P> The highlight of the function was that four of the 10 songs in the album were performed live on stage by G.V Prakash and his team along with the singers who sang in the film.

Selva and music director GV Prakash made it point to have only south Indian singers like Karthik, Vijay Yesudas, Andrea, Nithyasree Mahadevan, Dhanush and Aishwarya Dhanush to sing for the film.

The novelty of the show lied in the fact that even the audio launch had a story board. Right form the invite card that resembled like a manuscript, the ambience, music, the audio CD which was brought to the dais on a palanquin, everything was classy.

For the first time ever, no trailer or a clipping including song from the film or its making was shown to the invitees. This has actually stirred a curiosity around the film, as Selva was able to keep the look of the film shrouded in a mystery.

The live performance of GV Prakash was the highlight of the evening. GV as he is known among friends became the third and youngest music director to perform live on stage after Ilayaraja and AR Rahman. In fact AR Rahman抯 mother Kareema Begum along with her daughters was present to cheer him.

Another outstanding performance came from actor Dhanush and his wife who sang the peppy number Un Mele Aasadhaan?/I> along with Andrea. There was a fashion show, a Kalari performance, Chenda melam by women from Kerala, a classical dance by actress Poorna choreographed by Sivasankar master.

Selva Raghavan preferred to keep a low profile as he sat with his wife Sonia among the audience and enjoyed the show. Later in his thanksgiving speech he said: 揈veryone in the film including the producer, actors, cameraman and myself have worked hard to reach the next level but the real heroes I would like to thank are the hundreds of junior artists who worked 252 days in different locations with a smiling face. I want to do more films in Tamil and do not intend to go to Bollywood?

**doctorzlo** · 06-16-2009, 12:45 AM

oh eesa is a lift from "srinivasa govindha" a devotional song...maalai neram is good but spoilt by the female singer....un mela aasadhhann sure copied from yuvan's adada va....king arrives is inspired from harvestor of sorrow..thaai thindra mannae and celebration of lif remains standout compositions...overall an average album imo...but believe it will rock with visuals

**Slonopotam845** · 06-16-2009, 01:10 AM

thaai thindra manne & Pemmane

Great work by GVP

Vairamuthu after a long time worked for me in this song

nelladiya nilam
solladiya avai
villadiya kalam
kalladiya silai....beautiful and apt for remembering a lost land & glory. the whole song is a bliss from lyrical and musical veiwpoint . Earlier he did this to me in KM with panaimara kaade...paraivaigal koode...

un Mela Aasaithaan = Adada vaa

I think it must have been composed by yuvan earlier for AO and when he broke off with SR should've taken the song to sarvam. While SR should've made GVP build the song from the scratches leftover by Yuvan

**Lillie_Steins** · 06-16-2009, 01:43 AM

un Mela Aasaithaan = Adada vaa I think it must have been composed by yuvan earlier for AO and when he broke off with SR should've taken the song to sarvam. While SR should've made GVP build the song from the scratches leftover by Yuvan

Ungalukku vishyame theriyatha innum? Then see here:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/E...ow/4640077.cms

"Yuvan gave the tune of one of the songs composed for Aayirathil Oruvan to Vishnu Vardhan, who used it as Arya’s introduction song in Sarvvam (Adadada...)!" Exactly as you said!

**Raj_Copi_Jin** · 06-16-2009, 02:21 AM

oh eesa is a lift from "srinivasa govindha" a devotional song...maalai neram is good but spoilt by the female singer....un mela aasadhhann sure copied from yuvan's adada va....king arrives is inspired from harvestor of sorrow..thaai thindra mannae and celebration of lif remains standout compositions...overall an average album imo...but believe it will rock with visuals

It clearly states that oh eesa is composer's mix..which i believe is a remix..so you cant say its a lift

**softy54534** · 06-16-2009, 03:13 AM

Thaai Thindra Mannae - amazing song(s) - both

VM's lyrics

**TorryJens** · 06-16-2009, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by karthik_sa2 oh eesa is a lift from "srinivasa govindha" a devotional song...maalai neram is good but spoilt by the female singer....un mela aasadhhann sure copied from yuvan's adada va....king arrives is inspired from harvestor of sorrow..thaai thindra mannae and celebration of lif remains standout compositions...overall an average album imo...but believe it will rock with visuals

It clearly states that oh eesa is composer's mix..which i believe is a remix..so you cant say its a lift

ok

**LottiFurmann** · 06-16-2009, 09:43 AM

Listened to all songs thoroughly...

Don't know which one to pick as THE BEST. I ignored Oh Eesa, Un Mela aasadhan songs. Listened to them once or twice. Just skipped them...

Thaai thindra manne (both versions) are astonishing while "Pemmane" stands out for its lyrics and rendition... Malai Neram (which many did not like) was very much convincing with breezy lyrics and simple orchestration. Andrea - Not bad. Indha paadhai is good but I'm not going gaga over this song...

Vairamuthu for the Chola Period lyrics...

வாழ்ந்தாலும்,
சந்ததிகள் வீழ்ந்தாலும்,
தாய் மண்ணில் சாகாமல்,
சாகமாட்டோம்......

OTOH, Selva's lyrics in Maalai Neram song are very breezy and romantic

ஓடும் காலங்கள்,
உடன் ஓடும் நினைவுகள்,
வழி மாறும் பயனங்கள்,
தொடர்கிறதே....
--
உன் கரம் கோர்க்கையில்,
நினைவு ஓராயிரம்,
இரு கரம் பிரிகையில்,
நினைவு நூறாயிரம்
--

Recent days'la vandha albums'la yendha album'um, nAn indha aLavukku anubavichu kEtkala... Emotionally moved by the songs, compositions, lyrics and the rendition.

GVP, Selva and Vairamuthu

GVP - You have used the opportunity to the max you can. You have made it!!! Your best album till date... Credits to Selvah!

Yeah..As of now, AO is the best album of 2009

**Slonopotam845** · 06-16-2009, 03:20 PM

After the first listen I was like wtf! But the songs really grow on you. Very haunting. Hooked on to the fantastic "Celebration of life" (Naveen - Rahman's flautist?) and the superb "The King arrives". PenmaaNE, Oh Eesa composers's mix are superb as well. Thaai thinRa mannE needs a few more listens. Vijay Yesudas struggles, IMO. Yesduas himself would have been much better. GVP guitar-la pugundhu viLaiyaaduRaar in the melodies.

Selva is a freakin' genius I say! Now I can't wait to see the visuals. He seems to be huge fan of PBS. idhu enna maayam from 7G, now two songs in this and the veteran has done remarkably well

**HedgeYourBets** · 06-16-2009, 05:05 PM

Bought the cd finally...The two theme music have been removed..

The reason i guess is to fit in another album...

Bloody malaysian mentality...Inneme download thaan..no more supporting original stuffs...

**tgs** · 06-16-2009, 06:00 PM

A smashing soundtrack

http://ursmusically.blogspot.com/200...oundtrack.html

**Ifroham4** · 06-16-2009, 06:14 PM

Hooked on to the fantastic "Celebration of life" (Naveen - Rahman's flautist?) and the superb "The King arrives".

That track is outstanding

**Peptobismol** · 06-16-2009, 08:16 PM

Quite innovative and impressive....

**NeroASERCH** · 06-16-2009, 08:38 PM

After the first listen I was like wtf! But the songs really grow on you. Very haunting. Hooked on to the fantastic "Celebration of life" (Naveen - Rahman's flautist?) and the superb "The King arrives". PenmaaNE, Oh Eesa composers's mix are superb as well. Thaai thinRa mannE needs a few more listens. Vijay Yesudas struggles, IMO. Yesduas himself would have been much better. GVP guitar-la pugundhu viLaiyaaduRaar in the melodies.

Selva is a freakin' genius I say! Now I can't wait to see the visuals. He seems to be huge fan of PBS. idhu enna maayam from 7G, now two songs in this and the veteran has done remarkably well

u r right dude... this is a stunning stunning stunning album...last night when i heard it in good ear phones i was completely spellbound....pemanae is terrrific so are celebration of life and thaai thindra mannae...am just adoring the album and the album has surely incraesed my curiosity how the movie will be....GVP

**MannoFr** · 06-16-2009, 09:00 PM

pemanae kinda gives a spooky feel.. amazing

06-15-2009, 02:43 PM	#21
PhillipHer Join Date Jun 2008 Age 58 Posts 4,481 Senior Member	Thai thindra manne on my disc man..What a composition..what a fusion...Hats off GVP..Truly amazed... Two songs that didnt work for me.. Penmaane-this song is a bit scary and wierd esp BombayJaysree's vocals .. Indha paadhai - dull Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-15-2009, 02:56 PM	#22
S.T.D. Join Date May 2008 Age 42 Posts 5,220 Senior Member	Checked out INDHA......Very nice. G.V.P sings very well, appealing classical guitar orchestration. Thaai ...... தாய் தின்ற மண்ணே ....... விஜய் யேசுதாஸ் is amazing with grand violin section with chorus dhiranas and strong percussion interlude.... raga improvisations of the melody gives me the urge to listen செவ்வானமே சீர் கொண்டு வா......விஜய்'s அப்பா - யேசுதாஸ் & ஷைலஜா .. old compostion by K.V.Mahadevan. The second version The Cholan Ecstacy has a POWERFUL usage of percussions - udukkai, mirudhangam, tabala, ghatam etc.. in various sections of the composition. Very nice classical raga fusion pathos. Loving both the versions. good job, G.V.P. Rest later..... Vinatha. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-15-2009, 03:47 PM	#23
tgs Join Date Mar 2007 Age 48 Posts 5,125 Senior Member	Just got a sms from a fellow hubber. He said the whole album is outstanding. Need to check them out. All the Best GVP Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-15-2009, 08:26 PM	#24
Fegasderty Join Date Mar 2008 Posts 5,023 Senior Member	Listened to the songs. Thaai thindra manne (both the tracks) are extraordinary compositions! Oh eesa did not appeal to me. King arrives and Celebration of Life are amazing theme music kinda stuff. Indha paadhai is good too... Un mela aasadhan Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-15-2009, 09:03 PM	#25
Lillie_Steins Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 4,508 Senior Member	Selva & Yuvan make peace! By Moviebuzz \| Monday, 15 June , 2009, 11:00 There are no permanent friends or enemies in cinema. The audio launch of Aayirathil Oruvan saw the re-union of the hit director - music director combo of Selvaraghavan and Yuvan Shankar Raja. The surprise guest at the audio launch at University centenary hall in Chennai was Yuvan who came to wish Selva and watch GV Prakash抯 first live performance on stage. He sat through the whole show, hugged Selva and left with a smile. Later, Yuvan told Sify.com: ?I was waiting to hear the audio of Aayirathil Oruvan and was pleased when producer Ravendran invited me for the launch. Selva has always been special and will remain to be so. I think the audio rocks? An overwhelmed Selva with a smile: 揌e is my brother. It is one of the happiest days in my life and I love him? The views expressed in the article are th Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-15-2009, 09:06 PM	#26
TorryJens Join Date Nov 2008 Posts 4,494 Senior Member	Selvaraghavan抯 super show By Moviebuzz \| Monday, 15 June , 2009, 10:35 The audio launch of Selva Raghavan抯 Aayirathil Oruvan was one of the best launches in recent time. There were no tall claims made by the director and the launch function itself was unique in many ways. Selva in his note to the media said: 揟his is not a genre film. I wanted to make this film, because I have not made a film like this ever. Aayirathil Oruvan is truly every man抯 story卋ut it happens only to one man in a million.?P> The highlight of the function was that four of the 10 songs in the album were performed live on stage by G.V Prakash and his team along with the singers who sang in the film. Selva and music director GV Prakash made it point to have only south Indian singers like Karthik, Vijay Yesudas, Andrea, Nithyasree Mahadevan, Dhanush and Aishwarya Dhanush to sing for the film. The novelty of the show lied in the fact that even the audio launch had a story board. Right form the invite card that resembled like a manuscript, the ambience, music, the audio CD which was brought to the dais on a palanquin, everything was classy. For the first time ever, no trailer or a clipping including song from the film or its making was shown to the invitees. This has actually stirred a curiosity around the film, as Selva was able to keep the look of the film shrouded in a mystery. The live performance of GV Prakash was the highlight of the evening. GV as he is known among friends became the third and youngest music director to perform live on stage after Ilayaraja and AR Rahman. In fact AR Rahman抯 mother Kareema Begum along with her daughters was present to cheer him. Another outstanding performance came from actor Dhanush and his wife who sang the peppy number Un Mele Aasadhaan?/I> along with Andrea. There was a fashion show, a Kalari performance, Chenda melam by women from Kerala, a classical dance by actress Poorna choreographed by Sivasankar master. Selva Raghavan preferred to keep a low profile as he sat with his wife Sonia among the audience and enjoyed the show. Later in his thanksgiving speech he said: 揈veryone in the film including the producer, actors, cameraman and myself have worked hard to reach the next level but the real heroes I would like to thank are the hundreds of junior artists who worked 252 days in different locations with a smiling face. I want to do more films in Tamil and do not intend to go to Bollywood? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-16-2009, 12:45 AM	#27
doctorzlo Join Date Jun 2006 Posts 4,488 Senior Member	oh eesa is a lift from "srinivasa govindha" a devotional song...maalai neram is good but spoilt by the female singer....un mela aasadhhann sure copied from yuvan's adada va....king arrives is inspired from harvestor of sorrow..thaai thindra mannae and celebration of lif remains standout compositions...overall an average album imo...but believe it will rock with visuals Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-16-2009, 01:10 AM	#28
Slonopotam845 Join Date Jan 2006 Posts 5,251 Senior Member	thaai thindra manne & Pemmane Great work by GVP Vairamuthu after a long time worked for me in this song nelladiya nilam solladiya avai villadiya kalam kalladiya silai....beautiful and apt for remembering a lost land & glory. the whole song is a bliss from lyrical and musical veiwpoint . Earlier he did this to me in KM with panaimara kaade...paraivaigal koode... un Mela Aasaithaan = Adada vaa I think it must have been composed by yuvan earlier for AO and when he broke off with SR should've taken the song to sarvam. While SR should've made GVP build the song from the scratches leftover by Yuvan Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-16-2009, 01:43 AM	#29
Lillie_Steins Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 4,508 Senior Member	un Mela Aasaithaan = Adada vaa I think it must have been composed by yuvan earlier for AO and when he broke off with SR should've taken the song to sarvam. While SR should've made GVP build the song from the scratches leftover by Yuvan Ungalukku vishyame theriyatha innum? Then see here: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/E...ow/4640077.cms "Yuvan gave the tune of one of the songs composed for Aayirathil Oruvan to Vishnu Vardhan, who used it as Arya’s introduction song in Sarvvam (Adadada...)!" Exactly as you said! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-16-2009, 02:21 AM	#30
Raj_Copi_Jin Join Date Oct 2005 Age 48 Posts 4,533 Senior Member	oh eesa is a lift from "srinivasa govindha" a devotional song...maalai neram is good but spoilt by the female singer....un mela aasadhhann sure copied from yuvan's adada va....king arrives is inspired from harvestor of sorrow..thaai thindra mannae and celebration of lif remains standout compositions...overall an average album imo...but believe it will rock with visuals It clearly states that oh eesa is composer's mix..which i believe is a remix..so you cant say its a lift Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-16-2009, 03:13 AM	#31
softy54534 Join Date Apr 2007 Posts 5,457 Senior Member	Thaai Thindra Mannae - amazing song(s) - both VM's lyrics Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-16-2009, 09:16 AM	#32
TorryJens Join Date Nov 2008 Posts 4,494 Senior Member	Originally Posted by karthik_sa2 oh eesa is a lift from "srinivasa govindha" a devotional song...maalai neram is good but spoilt by the female singer....un mela aasadhhann sure copied from yuvan's adada va....king arrives is inspired from harvestor of sorrow..thaai thindra mannae and celebration of lif remains standout compositions...overall an average album imo...but believe it will rock with visuals It clearly states that oh eesa is composer's mix..which i believe is a remix..so you cant say its a lift ok Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-16-2009, 09:43 AM	#33
LottiFurmann Join Date Jan 2008 Posts 4,494 Senior Member	Listened to all songs thoroughly... Don't know which one to pick as THE BEST. I ignored Oh Eesa, Un Mela aasadhan songs. Listened to them once or twice. Just skipped them... Thaai thindra manne (both versions) are astonishing while "Pemmane" stands out for its lyrics and rendition... Malai Neram (which many did not like) was very much convincing with breezy lyrics and simple orchestration. Andrea - Not bad. Indha paadhai is good but I'm not going gaga over this song... Vairamuthu for the Chola Period lyrics... வாழ்ந்தாலும், சந்ததிகள் வீழ்ந்தாலும், தாய் மண்ணில் சாகாமல், சாகமாட்டோம்...... OTOH, Selva's lyrics in Maalai Neram song are very breezy and romantic ஓடும் காலங்கள், உடன் ஓடும் நினைவுகள், வழி மாறும் பயனங்கள், தொடர்கிறதே.... -- உன் கரம் கோர்க்கையில், நினைவு ஓராயிரம், இரு கரம் பிரிகையில், நினைவு நூறாயிரம் -- Recent days'la vandha albums'la yendha album'um, nAn indha aLavukku anubavichu kEtkala... Emotionally moved by the songs, compositions, lyrics and the rendition. GVP, Selva and Vairamuthu GVP - You have used the opportunity to the max you can. You have made it!!! Your best album till date... Credits to Selvah! Yeah..As of now, AO is the best album of 2009 Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-16-2009, 03:20 PM	#34
Slonopotam845 Join Date Jan 2006 Posts 5,251 Senior Member	After the first listen I was like wtf! But the songs really grow on you. Very haunting. Hooked on to the fantastic "Celebration of life" (Naveen - Rahman's flautist?) and the superb "The King arrives". PenmaaNE, Oh Eesa composers's mix are superb as well. Thaai thinRa mannE needs a few more listens. Vijay Yesudas struggles, IMO. Yesduas himself would have been much better. GVP guitar-la pugundhu viLaiyaaduRaar in the melodies. Selva is a freakin' genius I say! Now I can't wait to see the visuals. He seems to be huge fan of PBS. idhu enna maayam from 7G, now two songs in this and the veteran has done remarkably well Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-16-2009, 05:05 PM	#35
HedgeYourBets Join Date Aug 2008 Posts 4,655 Senior Member	Bought the cd finally...The two theme music have been removed.. The reason i guess is to fit in another album... Bloody malaysian mentality...Inneme download thaan..no more supporting original stuffs... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-16-2009, 06:00 PM	#36
tgs Join Date Mar 2007 Age 48 Posts 5,125 Senior Member	A smashing soundtrack http://ursmusically.blogspot.com/200...oundtrack.html Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-16-2009, 06:14 PM	#37
Ifroham4 Join Date Apr 2007 Posts 5,196 Senior Member	Hooked on to the fantastic "Celebration of life" (Naveen - Rahman's flautist?) and the superb "The King arrives". That track is outstanding Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-16-2009, 08:16 PM	#38
Peptobismol Join Date Oct 2005 Age 58 Posts 4,386 Senior Member	Quite innovative and impressive.... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-16-2009, 08:38 PM	#39
NeroASERCH Join Date Jul 2006 Posts 5,147 Senior Member	After the first listen I was like wtf! But the songs really grow on you. Very haunting. Hooked on to the fantastic "Celebration of life" (Naveen - Rahman's flautist?) and the superb "The King arrives". PenmaaNE, Oh Eesa composers's mix are superb as well. Thaai thinRa mannE needs a few more listens. Vijay Yesudas struggles, IMO. Yesduas himself would have been much better. GVP guitar-la pugundhu viLaiyaaduRaar in the melodies. Selva is a freakin' genius I say! Now I can't wait to see the visuals. He seems to be huge fan of PBS. idhu enna maayam from 7G, now two songs in this and the veteran has done remarkably well u r right dude... this is a stunning stunning stunning album...last night when i heard it in good ear phones i was completely spellbound....pemanae is terrrific so are celebration of life and thaai thindra mannae...am just adoring the album and the album has surely incraesed my curiosity how the movie will be....GVP Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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06-16-2009, 09:00 PM	#40
MannoFr Join Date Mar 2007 Posts 4,451 Senior Member	pemanae kinda gives a spooky feel.. amazing Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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